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I am inclined to believe this claim. It explains your behavior and it simply makes no sense for mafia to claim this when they have only lost one and we have lost about 5 people.
On September 21 2011 11:28 iGrok wrote:
Well, if you're a DT I'll give it to you - when you check me you'll get my role PM, If you want to use my power, post the first word in the name of my Checking ability in one of your posts. I'll use it on the next name that appears in your post.
One problem with your plan is the quoted portion above. You are assuming that DTs get to see the role PM of the person they check. What if they only are alignment DTs or something else? What do you suggest they do then?
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Does Bulletproof mean that you are impervious to night killings? I thought it meant that you were a veteran or something. Also, I think there is a slight flaw to your plan. When you have the ring, assuming that you are impervious to night killings, someone could still steal the ring as implied by the OP:
3. Special abilities. Some players may have the ability to steal The Ring without using lethal force.
I don't know how good that would turn out to be.
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On September 21 2011 11:40 GreYMisT wrote:I am inclined to believe this claim. It explains your behavior and it simply makes no sense for mafia to claim this when they have only lost one and we have lost about 5 people. Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 11:28 iGrok wrote:
Well, if you're a DT I'll give it to you - when you check me you'll get my role PM, If you want to use my power, post the first word in the name of my Checking ability in one of your posts. I'll use it on the next name that appears in your post.
One problem with your plan is the quoted portion above. You are assuming that DTs get to see the role PM of the person they check. What if they only are alignment DTs or something else? What do you suggest they do then?
Ehhh... I was thinking of Gandalf's ability.
I don't know what they'd do. I'm open to suggestions, but I won't give it away to anyone I have any suspicions of without some form of proof.
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Proof is hard to come by in this game.
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So unless a power like gandalf's surfaces again, we need to wait for a DT to roleclaim in thread before we can act with your power?
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On September 21 2011 11:49 GreYMisT wrote:
So unless a power like gandalf's surfaces again, we need to wait for a DT to roleclaim in thread before we can act with your power?
No.
If a good enough case is made by someone I believe to be town, I'll use it then. But only a PM DT can make me use it no matter what.
I'm not passing it off to popular vote because that's too easy to manipulate.
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kitaman27
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Why on earth should town consider giving you the ring? Assuming your claim is true, why should we care whether you are bulletproof or not? You don't share the town win condition, so if push comes to shove, you'll side with mafia late game. If they want to kill you at night, then that's no loss to town. In fact, that would be ideal for town.
How about we don't give you the ring and you still submit to our Maia and nightkill targets?
Also, if all non-town are given safe claims, what was the safe claim given to you that you can guarantee is not part of the game?
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kitaman27
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On September 21 2011 11:51 iGrok wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 11:49 GreYMisT wrote:
So unless a power like gandalf's surfaces again, we need to wait for a DT to roleclaim in thread before we can act with your power? No. If a good enough case is made by someone I believe to be town, I'll use it then. But only a PM DT can make me use it no matter what. I'm not passing it off to popular vote because that's too easy to manipulate.
Huh? What makes you think there is a pm dt in this game?
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You are deadset in this. You are being purposefully obtuse if you can't see this was sarcasm.
Jackal: Realizes I am most likely not going to get lynched. Changes to Prplhz but likes Erandorr better. But likes both townies better than a possible 3rd party. This guy is scum.
Heist: Yeah because I totally knew both were townies. I had no good scum reads day 1. I made it abundantly clear that my priority for lynching was purely based on who could most likely be mafia, not who is most likely not town from the leading candidates.
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On September 21 2011 11:53 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 11:51 iGrok wrote:On September 21 2011 11:49 GreYMisT wrote:
So unless a power like gandalf's surfaces again, we need to wait for a DT to roleclaim in thread before we can act with your power? No. If a good enough case is made by someone I believe to be town, I'll use it then. But only a PM DT can make me use it no matter what. I'm not passing it off to popular vote because that's too easy to manipulate. Huh? What makes you think there is a pm dt in this game?
...because gandalf was one.
And my safe claim was Celeborn, Lord of Lothlórien
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On September 21 2011 11:52 kitaman27 wrote:
Why on earth should town consider giving you the ring? Assuming your claim is true, why should we care whether you are bulletproof or not? You don't share the town win condition, so if push comes to shove, you'll side with mafia late game. If they want to kill you at night, then that's no loss to town. In fact, that would be ideal for town.
How about we don't give you the ring and you still submit to our Maia and nightkill targets?
Also, if all non-town are given safe claims, what was the safe claim given to you that you can guarantee is not part of the game?
This
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On September 21 2011 11:57 iGrok wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 11:53 kitaman27 wrote:On September 21 2011 11:51 iGrok wrote:On September 21 2011 11:49 GreYMisT wrote:
So unless a power like gandalf's surfaces again, we need to wait for a DT to roleclaim in thread before we can act with your power? No. If a good enough case is made by someone I believe to be town, I'll use it then. But only a PM DT can make me use it no matter what. I'm not passing it off to popular vote because that's too easy to manipulate. Huh? What makes you think there is a pm dt in this game? ...because gandalf was one. And my safe claim was Celeborn, Lord of Lothlórien
I'm not sure if you missed my earlier comment, but here it is again:
There is nothing that prevents someone from stealing the ring from you (and that role is heavily implied in the OP). At that point you no longer remain bulletproof and I assume that then bad things will happen.
Of course, whether you die or not doesn't matter to the town, but having the ring in the wrong hands probably shouldn't happen (as many people were quite willing to tell me a few days ago).
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Like Trancestorm said, I seriously doubt you'll be able to hold onto the ring. It will most likely fall into mafia hands should we give it to you. How about you help us without the conditions?
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On September 21 2011 12:01 heist wrote:
Like Trancestorm said, I seriously doubt you'll be able to hold onto the ring. It will most likely fall into mafia hands should we give it to you. How about you help us without the conditions?
That does nothing for me then. I'll contribute a bit, but unless I get the ring I'm not going to piss off the mafia.
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Hmm... if there's a pm role, target me and we can work out ring-trading to keep it out of the wrong hands
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I've had a busy night, but I want to address this before I sleep. My comments will be in bold.
On September 21 2011 04:04 Archon_Toilet wrote:JCARLSONIV- on the prplhz wagon who is now confirmed townie True. I made a bad read. It happens.- Defends Sauron doctorh Show nested quote +On September 18 2011 21:07 jcarlsoniv wrote:On September 18 2011 18:22 prplhz wrote:
all of you kids going "oh we not gonna hit scum today lets just all vote random" you're not doing it right of course we are not going to hit anybody if you don't even give it a try
i like drh navillus and jackal as candidates for lynches right now Please share some REASONS behind your suspicions of drh, navi, and jackal. Give us a REASON to believe you other than saying "I like them for lynches". How is this remotely defending DrH? This was early in the game. When people vote for someone, they need to give reasons. If you check my past games, I think I've said something like this is most of them.- Just crapping on about lurkers but doesnt actually say anything Oh? I thought I had been fairly active this game. How have I not been saying anything?- Desperate to keep attention on the erandorr bandwagon rather than the one he was on. Mentions every single name on multiple occasions. This is important. It is highly likely mafia on the other big bandwagon as well, why ignore them? This is because the Erandorr bandwagon happened in ~2hrs. This was highly suspicious. At the time, there were 3 other lynch candidates, 2 of which have now flipped town. I'm sure there were scum on all of the candidates (except maybe jackal, cuz we still don't know his allignment.)
- Has claimed a personal interest in the ring. We know who Frodo is. Can only be Gollum or one of the nazgul.
And? You'd be a fool to think that only Frodo, Gollum, and mafia have an interest in the Ring.
- accuses ciryandor (confirmed town) of being mafia cos he defended bugs (confirmed town) and prplhz (confirmed town)
Again, pretty early in the game. I can play aggressively at times (as you can see with my vote on Palmar), and there are plenty of times when I'm wrong (especially day 1).
Bad votes, defends the godfather, attacks townies over and over. Has generally caused chaos, most of his post long quotewall noone can read.
How have I caused chaos?? And if you're not going to read the posts, then why are you playing the damn game.
Vote to kill him. He is probably a nazgul.
Nooooope. [spoiler]Chuck Testa[/spoiler]
Also, iGrok's claim makes sense for his activity, but unless we can confirm with some kind of check I don't want to trust it at all. Could be a very clever ruse by scum to nab the Ring. But:
[B]On September 21 2011 12:05 iGrok wrote: Show nested quote +[B]On September 21 2011 12:01 heist wrote:
Like Trancestorm said, I seriously doubt you'll be able to hold onto the ring. It will most likely fall into mafia hands should we give it to you. How about you help us without the conditions? That does nothing for me then. I'll contribute a bit, but unless I get the ring I'm not going to piss off the mafia.
I mean...they now know your claim. If they want to kill you, they will. They know you have a kill that you haven't used yet. They could squash you tonight. Might as well help the town and show us there's a reason you deserve the Ring.
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eh...format fail T_T last part supposed to look like this:
- accuses ciryandor (confirmed town) of being mafia cos he defended bugs (confirmed town) and prplhz (confirmed town)
Again, pretty early in the game. I can play aggressively at times (as you can see with my vote on Palmar), and there are plenty of times when I'm wrong (especially day 1).
Bad votes, defends the godfather, attacks townies over and over. Has generally caused chaos, most of his post long quotewall noone can read.
How have I caused chaos?? And if you're not going to read the posts, then why are you playing the damn game.
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Day 2 Vote Count Update - JeeJee is Fucking Dead
Jeejee was standing in the voting booth submitting his vote on himself, unfortunately it was the straw that broke the camel's back, the whole thing collapsed and he was crushed by the mighty power of Mig's vote updates.
Glorfindel Hello and welcome to Middle Earth! You are Glorfindel, Elven Lord, Vanilla Townie. (nosy neighbor)![[image loading]](http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100109151705/lotr/images/7/77/200403121648_Glorfindel.jpg) Unfortunately you have only your voice and your vote. You win then Evil has been purged from Middle Earth.
On a side note if anyone else wants to replace because they are "too busy" I will hate you forever.
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These modkills are ruining the game basically
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