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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
January 09 2012 00:13 GMT
#961
It looks like there's a lot of holes in this plan.
It's bad when 1 scum player claims chaneller, It's bad if scum players just claim VT.
Just stick to analysis, Zona put in roles to prevent mass roleclaims from being a good strategy.
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
January 09 2012 00:20 GMT
#962
I consider the syllogism-layabout exchange to be against the spirit of the game, and in fact have an explicit rule in place against such forms of communication.
On December 28 2011 15:39 Zona wrote:
- Do not utilize a foreign language or code that only certain other players can understand, due to their background.

In particular, this post in particular exemplifies what is not allowed, by referring to something that no one else in the game can understand:
On January 09 2012 01:44 layabout wrote:
I was just going to quote what you put in the one dated 12/15/11 04:23
does RoL typically suggest plans and does anybody have links to previous ones?
I spent ages in risk.nukes filters yesterday and i don't have the time to do more today.

This is coded communication that relies on the background syllogism and layabout that share, due to the coach-student messages they shared in Student Mafia. However, since layabout has subsequently posted the full text of what he referred to, no harm, no foul.

To explain this rule in more detail:
If you post something that can only be understood due to knowledge, experience, expertise, or so on that only certain players in the game share with you (i.e. "background"), you are engaging in a form of "private" communication and are violating this rule. If you wish to refer to something which only certain players will understand, you must elaborate to a degree where all the players in the game can be expected to understand what you refer to.

Also, I would like to mention that I always triple-check everything before making a post, so allow 15-30 minutes after a deadline passes before asking where the end of night post is.

The Q&A post has been updated with more questions and their answers.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
January 09 2012 00:26 GMT
#963
@zona very sorry
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RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
January 09 2012 00:48 GMT
#964
On January 09 2012 09:06 Zephirdd wrote:
RoL, there is a main problem with your strategy in that it is highly dependent on an excellent town that can scumhunt effectively and identify scum easily with the claims.

The problem is when nobody fake claims blue. We essentially go back to beginning, except our blues are exposed. You are relying in a unreliable resource - Town - by making a bet where you kill/expose a reliable resource - our Power Roles. Right now, scum PRs have a ~1/17 chance of hitting their wanted target, where when you make our blues expose themselves, it falls down to 1/4.

No, your plan is crazy as fuck. No matter what, this just looks like a scum plan, even given the setup.

With townies like you, who needs mafia.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
January 09 2012 01:00 GMT
#965
I'm a vt.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
January 09 2012 01:25 GMT
#966
End of Night 1


It was during the night that the rain began. At first, it was gentle. A light mist that was almost a delight to the survivors, the calm rain was a welcome change from the blowing winds, thunder and lightning. But soon, the rain began to intensify. Larger and heavier raindrops began to fall, until even the force of their touch was able to cause pain to those who dared to remain outside. Those that could still move quickly found whatever shelter they could find, to avoid the constant battering by the skies. But they would find no rest as the storm continued unabated throughout the night. The streets started to flood, and everyone who took in the scene would never be able to erase it from their memories.

When morning came, the rains were no more and the floodwaters had drained away, and those that remained wearily gathered around the town square once more. Among them, three were missing. One grotesque body was found still smoldering on the ground, lacerated in many places. As a crowd slowly formed around the corpse, a sudden shift in the air punctated the return of two others from another dimension.

The throne at the base of the white spire began to hum and glow once more, and another harrowing day for the survivors began.

syllogism and HarbingerOfDoom disappeared into purgatory during the night!

Palmar the Demonic Courier was killed Night 1!

It is now Day 2!

The Day 2 deadline is at January 12 2012 10:00 KST.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-09 01:27:59
January 09 2012 01:27 GMT
#967
I might be taking the vote counter offline for 1 hour later tonight to check something out. However, you can vote normally, your votes submitted during that time will still be processed normally.

Also, I processed a few night actions manually due to some errors in submission. I will not do so night 2.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
ZBot
Profile Joined April 2010
194 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-09 01:29:08
January 09 2012 01:27 GMT
#968
oops, set wrong deadline - nothing to see here =P
All ZBot operation in a thread is under the control of the Original Poster of the respective thread.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 09 2012 01:29 GMT
#969
Told ya Palmar was scum.
Life can only kill you once.
ZBot
Profile Joined April 2010
194 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-09 01:31:22
January 09 2012 01:30 GMT
#970
not again...
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Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-09 01:40:36
January 09 2012 01:34 GMT
#971
Nevermind, looks like I'm taking the damn ZBot offline now to check something out. I'll have it back running later tonight.

(Oh lol I put "2011" for the deadline...no wonder it ended immediately.)
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
January 09 2012 01:39 GMT
#972
gg
Computer says mafia
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
January 09 2012 01:41 GMT
#973
Ah man, who will I lynch today now?

Also, the AoD either didn't hit, or it's one of HoD or syllo.

Acolyte missed. All people sent to purgatory are now targets of the channeler.
you gotta dance
HarbingerOfDoom
Profile Joined December 2010
United States508 Posts
January 09 2012 01:42 GMT
#974
I was sent to purgatory? What in the fuck? Also, no unrevealed flip? So either syllo = angel of death (seems unlikely to me, but possible) or angel of death targeted him or me (seems much more likely, and probably him if I had to bet).
HarbingerOfDoom
Profile Joined December 2010
United States508 Posts
January 09 2012 01:45 GMT
#975
On January 09 2012 10:41 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Ah man, who will I lynch today now?

Also, the AoD either didn't hit, or it's one of HoD or syllo.

Acolyte missed. All people sent to purgatory are now targets of the channeler.

...or the acolyte went after a demon and the demon hunter didn't hit anyone. With how scummy Palmar was still playing, there is a chance the angel's opted to try to kill him in case he started trying and found them. However, I agree it is more likely the acolyte missed.
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
January 09 2012 01:45 GMT
#976
On January 09 2012 10:41 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Ah man, who will I lynch today now?

Also, the AoD either didn't hit, or it's one of HoD or syllo.

Acolyte missed. All people sent to purgatory are now targets of the channeler.

Or acolyte/AoD hit one of Syllo/HoD, forgot about the protection part of purgatory for a second.

Those are quick conclusions I'm drawing from the flip. I'm happy the demons lost their RB power, but it would have been nice if Palmar was the concealer.

I'm going to go back and read with how people acted towards him.
you gotta dance
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
January 09 2012 01:45 GMT
#977
Got really occupied with the chaos in Newbie Mafia sorry, I'm here now.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 09 2012 01:46 GMT
#978
On January 09 2012 10:42 HarbingerOfDoom wrote:
I was sent to purgatory? What in the fuck? Also, no unrevealed flip? So either syllo = angel of death (seems unlikely to me, but possible) or angel of death targeted him or me (seems much more likely, and probably him if I had to bet).

Why would he flip?. He's not dead. You didn't flip.
Life can only kill you once.
HarbingerOfDoom
Profile Joined December 2010
United States508 Posts
January 09 2012 01:48 GMT
#979
On January 09 2012 10:46 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2012 10:42 HarbingerOfDoom wrote:
I was sent to purgatory? What in the fuck? Also, no unrevealed flip? So either syllo = angel of death (seems unlikely to me, but possible) or angel of death targeted him or me (seems much more likely, and probably him if I had to bet).

Why would he flip?. He's not dead. You didn't flip.

What? Why would who flip? I was/am confused that the angel of death didn't kill anyone and think it is most likely that syllo was targeted by the angel of death.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 09 2012 01:51 GMT
#980
On January 09 2012 10:45 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2012 10:41 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Ah man, who will I lynch today now?

Also, the AoD either didn't hit, or it's one of HoD or syllo.

Acolyte missed. All people sent to purgatory are now targets of the channeler.

Or acolyte/AoD hit one of Syllo/HoD, forgot about the protection part of purgatory for a second.

Those are quick conclusions I'm drawing from the flip. I'm happy the demons lost their RB power, but it would have been nice if Palmar was the concealer.

I'm going to go back and read with how people acted towards him.

Palmar may have protected a teammate. Look at Syllo or HoD. Of those 2 Syllos constant refusal to vote Palmar even though he said he was scum makes me think it's him.
Life can only kill you once.
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