Newbie Mini Mafia XXXIV - Page 46

On January 05 2013 01:44 Sylencia wrote:
My vote before I go to bed will be currently going to jampi. I'll be back before the deadline, so jampi, if you have a defense, feel free to post it.



This is the reason you have given us for a lack of posts. It's one of your first posts, so it's actually more of a pre-emptive explanation of why you would be lurking. You have answered the questions presented, but you do not give us your insight unless asked. This gives me the impression you have to formulate thoughts before giving the answer. If you are a townie, there needs to be more spontaneous input when you observe something that strikes you as being off.

You posted some of your town reads, but a lot of it was based on some meta-reads and the logic behind them was still a little flawed. (The reason why the QT was brought up as a potential scum play was because it feigns ignorance, not sure if this was explained.) (Mentioning your scum play from last game doesn't make you more town, it can also be used to distance yourself from your previous game, and thus give the illusion of playing more town)

After that, you start to zero in on Strix. Your suspicion only came to light once Mocsta had come and asked you about Strix. This strikes me as suspicious, because it really comes out of nowhere. This is why I would say if you were town, you would bring it up when you saw fit to. Ask questions about it earlier. Instead, there's a sudden accusation followed by a few points made about his posts.

In one of your points, you mention how he targets the biggest lurker we have in the group, even though he said in his policy statement he wants to LAL. If anything, that only reinforces the fact he was, at the time since he did end up retracting the vote, following what he said.

Your second last statement essentially says 'what I stated against you could be town or could be scum', essentially being on the fence about whether or not he is scum. If he flips, you have some insurance if he is town by saying 'looks like it was town motivated.'

Basically, your posts give the impression you're on the fence about whether he is scum or not, you say he is contributing nothing, but you do not provide cases for anyone else and choose to tunnel on Strix.

##Vote jampi

On January 05 2013 10:47 Sylencia wrote:
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If he has such a weak case, why couldn't he have strengthened it any more by asking more questions, as he said he would in his first few posts. Instead, all that we get are answers to questions and accusations. It's not exactly good enough to say you have little to no information to go off, and leave it be and vote. It's slack, and it's scummy because it shows you don't care about the consequences of tunneling a player...

On January 08 2013 01:03 Sylencia wrote:
So basically, for jampi, I already did him for Day 1, so adding to it for day 2:



This is attempted analysis, but it doesn't say anything at all. Doesn't state if he thinks it's a RB or JK, it's just statements which could have been drawn pretty easily by anyone.

The case on Mocsta is the only other big post on day 2, it's not really a solid case either. It honestly rates about the same level as Strix's case he posted which I said was weak on Day 1 as well.



Jampi, you're flying under the radar more than pretty much anyone here. Are you following your own advice or are you just playing badly?

On January 08 2013 01:03 Sylencia wrote:
Omni:

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Basically, jampi still looks suspicious as hell, no real contribution, trying to fly under the radar in Day 2 - still giving no real clues to his being town (if he is at all), but the last few posts Omni have made while what seems to be half-asleep really makes me wonder if he just slipped up.

Lesson learned from NMM33: People make slips. If you ignore them, you could lose the game from it.

##Vote OmniEulogy

On January 10 2013 00:03 jampidampi wrote:
Three other players voted on StriX, not just me. If my suspicions of StriX would be just him voting for TeMiL, why would others have voted for him?

Votecount:

StriX (4): jampidampi, OmniEulogy, Spaghetticus, cDgCorazon
jampidampi (2): Sylencia, TeMiL
OmniEulogy (3): Mocsta, zarepath, StriX

On January 05 2013 19:12 jampidampi wrote:
I will try to gather here the big events of D1 leading to the misslynch of StriX.

38. TeMiL comes out of nowhere and votes me.
@Spaghetticus
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@Mocsta
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@zarepath
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Others had already questioned TeMiL enough for me. I could see that he was not responding to anything, so why ask if I wouldn't get an answear? Instead I chose to question the ones that were at that point the most suspicious to me, Spag for his big posts that were on policies and acting in way that would allow him to jump on any bandwagon on almost anyone, zare for jumping on bandwagons and not giving the analysis promised, you for being sure that StriX would flip town.

On January 05 2013 19:27 jampidampi wrote:
@Mocsta
Do you still think Omni is scum? If you do, please pressure him more.

On January 07 2013 04:49 jampidampi wrote:
@Mocsta


I think you have had enough time to think of this. So I ask again, do you still Omni is scum? If not what in his paly changed your opinion?

On January 08 2013 23:58 jampidampi wrote:
@Mocsta:
Now that I have answeared all the question, it is your turn. Answear me. You claim that my case for you is weak, if this is true, then go ahead and rip it apart. I bet you cannot actually do that.

On January 07 2013 15:16 Spaghetticus wrote:
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Syl and Mocsta are now being read because I know that they are both capable of gaining town status as scum.
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Syl sits on the line of activity that I would call 'optimal scum activity'. He is not a lurker, and he has not need to lie or mislead town. Town has mislead themselves, so his near riskless play puts him in a perfect survival state where all he has to do is post analytic truths and town will detonate on their own.
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