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(4) Palmar -1 to prplhz + 1 + 1 + 1 + 5 + 1 = 12 = 11 if LSB is lying it is
(3) Jackal58 -1 to Palmar + 1 = 3
(3) Chaoser 1 to Palmar + 4 = 6
(2) LSB -1 to Palmar = 2 = 1 if LSB is lying it is
(6) Prplhz -5 to Palmar + 1 = 2
Wherebugsgo
(2) Dirkzor -1 to Jaybrundage = 1
(3) risk.nuke -1 to Palmar + 2 = 4
(2) [UoN]Sentinel -1 to Paperscraps + 1 = 2
(4) PaperScraps -2 to risk.nuke + 1 = 3
(2) jaybrundage -1 to Jackal58 + 1 + 1 = 3
(2) MeatlessTaco -1 to Jaybrundage = 1
(2) Node -1 to [UoN]Sentinel = 1
VisceraEyes
(5) LayAbout -4 to Chaoser = 1 + 9??? or (2 + 8??? if LSB is lying) = 10
I see your problem prplhz. The siphon doesn't make sense. Unless...
My guess is that the mafia ability can't steal votes a player already has, but can redirect incoming votes.
By the assumption that LSB is lying we subtract 3 votes from 11 to get 8. Which makes everything work.
Node (1)
Jackal58 (3)
chaoser (6)
prplhz (2)
jaybrundage (3)
risk.nuke (4)
[UoN]Sentinel (2)
MeatlessTaco (1)
Paperscraps (3)
Dirkzor (1)
layabout (10)
45 - 3(WBG) = 42 - 2(VE) = 40 - 4?? = 36
We know at least 1 vote is lost from Palmar and LSB
By the assumption that the mafia ability can't steal votes:
We lose 3 votes from Palmar and 1 vote from LSB.
45 - 3(WBG) = 42 - 2(VE) = 40 - 3(Palmar) -1(LSB) = 36
I think this is correct.
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Lol my brain hurts a bit.
So we all good on me hammering now?
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##vote layabout
boom goes the dynamite!
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End of Day 3
Lynched:
layabout (19): Paperscraps (3), -Paperscraps (3), Paperscraps (3), [UoN]Sentinel (2), MeatlessTaco (1), chaoser (6), prplhz (2), jaybrundage (3), Node (1), -[UoN]Sentinel (2), -prplhz (2), risk.nuke (4), -Paperscraps (3), -MeatlessTaco (1), prplhz (2), Paperscraps (3)
Current votes:
Not voting:
Jackal58 (3), [UoN]Sentinel (2), MeatlessTaco (1), Dirkzor (1), layabout (10),
"You can not be trusted!"
The terrible accusation echoed in the hall. For a moment all was still, then the clamour began. The usually so dignified counselors were on their feet, shouting at eachother. Fear and anger had turned these scholars into madmen, and only one thing could calm their rage.
"Please brothers, it is as it must be. I am nothing if not a builder. If I can not be thus, then let me be undone. Say nothing else on the matter."
layabout left the others at their table and walked the seven score stairs up the tower. The silence was complete, expectant, and laster for minutes, until a sickening crunch was heard from outside, of layabouts body hitting the carefully tended lawn at the foot of the tower.
layabout fell to his death 3!
It is now Night 3. The night will end 2012-02-03 10:00:09. (That's approximately 1 day, 19:35:00 from now.)
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So why did Palmar die? Did mafia have a way to bypass a medic/jailer save? or did the medic/jailer try and wifom and save someone else?
I was rb'ed so hmmm.
What do you all think?
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On February 01 2012 14:42 Paperscraps wrote:
So why did Palmar die? Did mafia have a way to bypass a medic/jailer save? or did the medic/jailer try and wifom and save someone else?
I was rb'ed so hmmm.
What do you all think?
I wouldn't be surprised if the same player couldn't be incarcerated twice, or at least not twice in a row. See the Sheriff role in TL Mafia L for a recent example of this. In fact, it sounds like you were jailed last night, since Palmar said that he was roleblocked N1.
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I belive the medic thought it would be obvious he would protect palmar and because of that he thought the mafia wouldn't hit palmar and therefor protected you instead. A wifom gamble from both sides and mafia got lucky.
I'm not sure if we have a jailor. It could still be a medic and a mafia roleblocker. Altough I'm leaning jailor beeing more likely.
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I want to lynch chaoser tommorow then.
Notice this he CLAIMED that he got votes from layabout. Before everyone had even claimed only 7 people had declared where there votes went.
That means 4 people had not declared who they were voting for. However instead of thinking other people voted for him he assumed that layabout gave him those votes.
Looks like he had prior knowledge that he was going to get those votes. Also he defended LSB for a bit till he figured that he too was a lost cause.
Chaoser also didnt know about the VE lynch till it already happened he could not really have a say in it. (although maybe he would of tried to defend his mafia buddy)
It seems pretty obvious that hes mafia. Unless layabout was using WIFOM to try to make chaoser look bad.
What do you guys think. If Chaoser doesn't work out i have another candidate in mind.
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On other thoughts I think the scum might surrender. This is practicly unwinnable for them. I got a strong townread on Scraps, Prplhz, Node and Sentinel. Meaning for every potential scum there is a very strong green-read. And we haven't even roleclaimed yet which I'm thinking maybe we should do tomorrow.
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I definitely don't like chaoser. I'm going to go over everyone. I'll post my conclusions before dawn
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YAY 500 posts im a dragoon :D
I hope your mafia Chaoser. Then you can validate my 500th post :D
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Why would jailer RB me though? Seems more likely we have a medic and mafia roleblocker. I mean unless I seemed suspicious for some reason that I am unaware of.
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On February 01 2012 10:39 chaoser wrote:
Obviously layabout needs to tell us who he gave votes to but right now it looks like to me, that Palmer was probably right about his reads. Might have been a last ditch ploy (obviously there was some way/probably mafia action that allowed layabout to get to 10 votes, there's no way people actually gave him that many...right?) to get enough votes to gain majority outright and win the game. Thank god Node killed LSB or who knows what might have happened.
On February 01 2012 10:46 chaoser wrote:
##vote layabout
I probably won't be changing my vote. Unless layabout gives some amazing explanation.
Looks like you will need to do some amazing explaining.
On February 01 2012 05:15 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2012 05:09 risk.nuke wrote:
LSB was palmars target when VE played his crazy move which to me seems to have been made out of desperation. That makes LSB look really bad.
On other accounts I view both LSB and Layabout as just about the same.
*Alot of act, little under the hood.
*Questionable behavior. But palmar's only real argument against LSB is that he gave his vote to layabout. When compared to what layabout has done and posted, I don't think it's the same condemning thing at all.
Seems LSB had a pretty important PR.
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Damn you guys! You did it again! >_<
I traded 1 vote to jay. The reason was to not stack votes on other townies and I have a green read on him.
I believe VE, lay and LSB was scum. WBG was not. So whos the last?
I got crossfit training now and when i come back i got some filters to read.
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Notice this he CLAIMED that he got votes from layabout. Before everyone had even claimed only 7 people had declared where there votes went.
When did I claim this? I never claimed this.
Also, why would it make sense for someone that I was pushing to be lynched, to give me 4 votes, if both of us were mafia?? That makes NO SENSE. Come on guys...
Chaoser also didnt know about the VE lynch till it already happened he could not really have a say in it. (although maybe he would of tried to defend his mafia buddy)
If people hadn't ended the day so early before I got back from class I could have said something and had my post actually matter.
Seems LSB had a pretty important PR.
Ok I was wrong about LSB, but I called out VE and Layabout, early in the game in day one.
It wasn't even like I defended LSB that much. Look at my posts from my big one on Night 2 up till today about him. You can see a gradual natural change from townie (due to his day 1 play) to neutral. The VE random shenengians made no sense when combined with the LSB situation which threw me off as well.
posting from iphone in hospital shift
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Chaoser also didnt know about the VE lynch till it already happened he could not really have a say in it. (although maybe he would of tried to defend his mafia buddy)
If people hadn't ended the day so early before I got back from class I could have said something and had my post actually matter.
I said on my first big post that I was ok with either a lynch of VE or Dirzok the next day. I pointed it out before anyone (aside from palmar, pointed it out). That's just misrepresentation of facts.
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But palmar's only real argument against LSB is that he gave his vote to layabout. When compared to what layabout has done and posted, I don't think it's the same condemning thing at all.
Seems LSB had a pretty important PR.
So you're saying LSB, layabout, and me are all mafia. VE too. I was ok with bussing VE day 1. And then I defended LSB over layabout, bussing layabout, when they were both mafia? How does that make sense?
LSB of the Scum died during the night.
He looks like he was regular mafia too so it wasn't even like I was saving someone "important". Not to mention that at that point layabout had more votes so if I was mafia I would try to save layabout over LSB. Also if I was mafia
sorry for short posts, iphone is hard to quote
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EDIT: "Also if I was mafia": what would the point be of 1) bussing layabout then 2) asking layabout to give me votes and then 3) making him siphon votes off palmar.
why not just tell him to give only one vote away and siphon. Why 4 like people are theorizing?
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