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jacson1253
Profile Joined December 2011
United States8 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-18 16:58:25
June 18 2013 16:39 GMT
#61
Rimstalker:

Sent a email back to Matthias giving dates to complete tasks. Have not received anything back. Are they sending them out tomorrow?
Posted on Tuesday 18th 12:39PM
Rimstalker
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany734 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-18 18:05:51
June 18 2013 18:03 GMT
#62
On June 19 2013 01:39 jacson1253 wrote:
Rimstalker:

Sent a email back to Matthias giving dates to complete tasks. Have not received anything back. Are they sending them out tomorrow?
Posted on Tuesday 18th 12:39PM


They? It's only me, and my inbox with 400 emails to go through coming back from Spain today at noon.

edit: If you are one of the 15 I asked for a time and date, don't sweat it, all of you will get a shot. It also helps - if you PM me - to include your name.
Here be Dragons
AFKing
Profile Joined January 2013
128 Posts
June 18 2013 21:16 GMT
#63
If we haven't received any sort of response at this point, are we to just assume we're not under consideration?
mbsupermario
Profile Joined July 2010
United States101 Posts
June 18 2013 22:07 GMT
#64
Wish I'd have seen this sooner
Rimstalker
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany734 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-19 09:31:04
June 19 2013 09:18 GMT
#65
On June 19 2013 06:16 AFKing wrote:
If we haven't received any sort of response at this point, are we to just assume we're not under consideration?


yes. this thing turned into an unbelievable timesink. at the moment, my plan was the following:

- point out the things that took people out of the race instantly (stuff like spelling errors in your CV, sending me CVs that were 'shared', but I couldn't access)
- give pointers as to what I was looking for in CVs and cover letters
- possibly give a heads up to the people that are in my list of 'would do in the 2nd round, if there is one'
- once I have run my 15 people through my task, I'd post the files and instructions online, so that people can try to do it if they wish to

edit: if people prefer a quick 'no' via email, I can do that as well, but I would assume that after my writeup (I promise to do it tomorrow at the latest), it should be fairly clear why I didn't reach out.
Here be Dragons
Rimstalker
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany734 Posts
June 20 2013 14:44 GMT
#66
reasons for not even entering the race, this applied to about 20 people:

- mailing me your CV from your current work account, with your work signature, and your employer's boilerplate beneath
- mistakes in your cover letter. Either spelling or grammar. Funnily enough, I never saw anyone who had only one mistake, the people I took out all had two or more. Most common mistake for people from Central Europe: Indefinite articles.
- mistakes in your CV. Proofread that thing, have someone else proofread it for you. Proofread it again. (To the guy who interviewed pilots: 'complied'. 'compiled')
- sending me links to shared documents on google drive that weren't shared with me
- going off on wild tangents in your cover letter about the importance of marketing and strong communication and sales skills. I need Rambo style solitary fighters with borderline autistic traits. We already have our share of crazy sales people that promise the moon to clients .
Here be Dragons
Wubbles
Profile Joined May 2010
United States120 Posts
June 20 2013 23:39 GMT
#67
Reasons to not work here:

On June 20 2013 23:44 Rimstalker wrote:
I need Rambo style solitary fighters with borderline autistic traits


Unprofessionalism


d_so
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)3262 Posts
June 21 2013 00:13 GMT
#68
On June 21 2013 08:39 Wubbles wrote:
Reasons to not work here:

Show nested quote +
On June 20 2013 23:44 Rimstalker wrote:
I need Rambo style solitary fighters with borderline autistic traits


Unprofessionalism




don't hate yo.

It's realllllly hard to get feedback from prospective employers as to why you weren't selected.

Even if what he gave was a slightly snide remark or whatnot, it's better than the deafening silence that usually occurs. For example, I interviewed 3 rounds with NCSOFT just last month -- and then never heard back. They didn't even have the courtesy to say I wasn't selected -_-
manner
Wubbles
Profile Joined May 2010
United States120 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-21 01:29:17
June 21 2013 01:15 GMT
#69
On June 21 2013 09:13 d_so wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2013 08:39 Wubbles wrote:
Reasons to not work here:

On June 20 2013 23:44 Rimstalker wrote:
I need Rambo style solitary fighters with borderline autistic traits


Unprofessionalism




don't hate yo.

It's realllllly hard to get feedback from prospective employers as to why you weren't selected.

Even if what he gave was a slightly snide remark or whatnot, it's better than the deafening silence that usually occurs.


Well there's a big difference between providing constructive criticism in a professional manner, and speaking like this guy does. I personally didn't apply to work here (I already have a full time job), but to the people who did and got rejected, you should feel relieved that you dodged a bullet working for a guy who refers to his colleagues as people with "borderline autistic traits." You would think someone who is recruiting for their company would present himself as a mature, well spoken, respectful individual, and represent them well.

It's one thing if you're having an off the record, casual/laid back conversation with some buddies or a random dude, but when you're supposed to be representing your company and looking for potential employees, you should at least have some level of etiquette.
jacson1253
Profile Joined December 2011
United States8 Posts
June 21 2013 05:12 GMT
#70
On June 20 2013 23:44 Rimstalker wrote:
reasons for not even entering the race, this applied to about 20 people:

- mailing me your CV from your current work account, with your work signature, and your employer's boilerplate beneath
- mistakes in your cover letter. Either spelling or grammar. Funnily enough, I never saw anyone who had only one mistake, the people I took out all had two or more. Most common mistake for people from Central Europe: Indefinite articles.
- mistakes in your CV. Proofread that thing, have someone else proofread it for you. Proofread it again. (To the guy who interviewed pilots: 'complied'. 'compiled')
- sending me links to shared documents on google drive that weren't shared with me
- going off on wild tangents in your cover letter about the importance of marketing and strong communication and sales skills. I need Rambo style solitary fighters with borderline autistic traits. We already have our share of crazy sales people that promise the moon to clients .



U can't hate on the guy for being honest. I took the "Test" and I can see why he is looking for these "Traits". I do not really enjoy being considered " Rambo style solitary fighters with borderline autistic" however since my return from Iraq I do keep to myself, I spend about 80 percent of my time at home. Having said that I still do want the job, its really hard going to school full time and trying to support a family. Again thank you for the honesty, most people are not really honest with you unless they feel like they are going to die very soon. Hearing it from first hand experience, it's just very refreshing.

I do not mean to insult anyone, just one mans opinion.
Infantry Leads The Way
Rimstalker
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany734 Posts
June 21 2013 14:48 GMT
#71
there was slight hyperbole in that rambo statement.

maybe not 100% finished and thought out yet, but something at least:

At first some information about my selection process: I have collected input from various sources on the matter. Basically anyone I know who is involved in hiring and who was willing to talk. Starting with the manager of a drugstore who has about 30 employees, then someone who has been an internet entrepreneur, project lead for a couple of million dollars project and founder of two startups (both succeeded) and lastly to someone who has a degree in psychology and was head of HR for the lottery in one of Germany's states for many years.

What I have taken from those exchanges, and what I have learnt from the job interviews I conducted myself already:

- to trust my gut feeling
- you need to stick out of the crowd. 'I'm a masters player' does not make you stick out. It is duly noted and taken into consideration, but nothing more. 'I planted 250 000 pineapples by hand' is something I have used, and it was actually the interview that got me the foot into the door of freelancing and contract work and startup culture.
- KISS principle for the cover letter. I'm short on time. If I have to re-read a sentence that runs for five lines three times to understand it, you failed, not me. Sentences like that also give you A LOT more rope to hang yourself with grammatically.
- any technical skill you put in your resume that is relevant for the job, I will ask you about, and I will give you small practical tasks for those.
- if you put 'expert' into your CV on something, I will ask an 'expert' question about the topic.

What I was looking for in the cover letters and CVs:

- strong 'motivations' or 'causes'.
- self-study
- diverse experiences
- freelancing or online advertising experience
Here be Dragons
peacenl
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
550 Posts
June 25 2013 12:47 GMT
#72
The only difference is that Rimstalker is being honest about why you were not hired, don't blame him for that. Because on the other side of the spectrum there is the employer that just says: "Sorry you didn't make it, because {insert default reason, which makes no sense or doesn't help you one bit to improve}". And talking about him being unethical? Come on... welcome to the world of business, where large groups of the population sell things that other people don't need, people get fired because they are too old or sick and people that deserve a job lose or can't get one every single day.
- One does not simply walk into a bar and start calling the shots.
- Failure doesn't mean you are a failure it just means you haven't succeeded yet.
Rimstalker
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany734 Posts
July 02 2013 14:33 GMT
#73
just to give an update here:

Matteo and Gert have started working, the latter one as an intern for the time being. Rob will start training soon and will start working more once his summer roadtrip is finished. Phillip should start this week. An offer for employment was made to Jackson, but it looks a bit like he chickened out. I'm still undecided about three candidates, Scott, Maxwell and Patrick.
Here be Dragons
SFHyper
Profile Joined July 2013
United Kingdom45 Posts
July 10 2013 09:13 GMT
#74
I would be interested in this too, I have dropped you an email. Sounds like a great opportunity!
gkewaomaeo
Profile Joined August 2013
Canada3 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-02 04:28:53
August 02 2013 04:26 GMT
#75
-- Nuked --
Pirfiktshon
Profile Joined June 2013
United States1072 Posts
August 07 2013 14:42 GMT
#76
Is this recruitment still going on?
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