• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 03:43
CEST 09:43
KST 16:43
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting6[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Holding On9Maestros of the Game: Live Finals Preview (RO4)5
Community News
Weekly Cups (Oct 6-12): Four star herO65.0.15 Patch Balance Hotfix (2025-10-8)75Weekly Cups (Sept 29-Oct 5): MaxPax triples up3PartinG joins SteamerZone, returns to SC2 competition325.0.15 Balance Patch Notes (Live version)119
StarCraft 2
General
TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting Revisiting the game after10 years and wow it's bad 5.0.15 Patch Balance Hotfix (2025-10-8) The New Patch Killed Mech! Ladder Impersonation (only maybe)
Tourneys
LiuLi Cup - September 2025 Tournaments SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) Tenacious Turtle Tussle
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace Mutation # 494 Unstable Environment Mutation # 493 Quick Killers Mutation # 492 Get Out More
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion BW caster Sayle Map with fog of war removed for one player? Pros React To: BarrackS + FlaSh Coaching vs SnOw After 20 seasons we have a lot of great maps
Tourneys
[ASL20] Semifinal A [ASL20] Semifinal B SC4ALL $1,500 Open Bracket LAN [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Current Meta BW - ajfirecracker Strategy & Training Siegecraft - a new perspective TvZ Theorycraft - Improving on State of the Art
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace Megathread Dawn of War IV Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640} TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Men's Fashion Thread Sex and weight loss
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 NBA General Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Inbreeding: Why Do We Do It…
Peanutsc
From Tilt to Ragequit:The Ps…
TrAiDoS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1090 users

Tefel joins Team Dignitas - Page 4

Forum Index > SC2 General
104 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next All
aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
November 20 2012 11:18 GMT
#61
On November 20 2012 20:13 SamsLiST wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2012 20:00 aTnClouD wrote:
Another infestor abusing zerg with average abilities undeservedly joins a top team. Not surprising.


I am a really big fan of Cloud, but his mindset is a bigger problem for him as Infestors, Zerg or his own skill.

...not saying he is wrong though XD

When as a progamer you see such an high profile team as Dignitas taking in bad players such as Tefel or Jonnyrecco just because the game is screwed at the moment over way better picks like Targa, Snute or somebody who actually deserves it there's not much else to think honestly.
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/hunter692007/kruemelmonsteryn0.gif
Sakkreth
Profile Joined February 2011
Lithuania1096 Posts
November 20 2012 11:26 GMT
#62
Nice for both sides I guess. I wonder who's gonna pickup Krr .
WhiteRa, NaNiWa, Creator, sOs, Krr, ForGG, MMA, Zest ||
TigerKarl
Profile Joined November 2010
1757 Posts
November 20 2012 11:55 GMT
#63
On November 20 2012 20:18 aTnClouD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2012 20:13 SamsLiST wrote:
On November 20 2012 20:00 aTnClouD wrote:
Another infestor abusing zerg with average abilities undeservedly joins a top team. Not surprising.


I am a really big fan of Cloud, but his mindset is a bigger problem for him as Infestors, Zerg or his own skill.

...not saying he is wrong though XD

When as a progamer you see such an high profile team as Dignitas taking in bad players such as Tefel or Jonnyrecco just because the game is screwed at the moment over way better picks like Targa, Snute or somebody who actually deserves it there's not much else to think honestly.

stop imitating 2011Idra, you can't fool anyone!!
SamsLiST
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany184 Posts
November 20 2012 11:56 GMT
#64
On November 20 2012 20:18 aTnClouD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2012 20:13 SamsLiST wrote:
On November 20 2012 20:00 aTnClouD wrote:
Another infestor abusing zerg with average abilities undeservedly joins a top team. Not surprising.


I am a really big fan of Cloud, but his mindset is a bigger problem for him as Infestors, Zerg or his own skill.

...not saying he is wrong though XD

When as a progamer you see such an high profile team as Dignitas taking in bad players such as Tefel or Jonnyrecco just because the game is screwed at the moment over way better picks like Targa, Snute or somebody who actually deserves it there's not much else to think honestly.


you are probably right - just do yourself the favour to stay objektive and fair.-and reason such harsh statements

For a random fan like me its not obvious what your opinion is based on and I see many casuals read your 1rst post and misunderstand

We do not know any of the reasons for some picks.
Without having any insights I can not judge a decision -recco maybe was picked for his age and potential? maybe Snute was to expensive or TargA could not convince about his ambitions (pure speculations). How can I possibly know!

Then a progamer, whos word I trust in (Cloud) comes along and states a player who has been sitting in line and been around forever (Tefel) is not deserving to get a contract.

So I have to kindly remind about your responsibility.
Martijn
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands1219 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-20 12:22:34
November 20 2012 12:18 GMT
#65
On November 20 2012 20:00 aTnClouD wrote:
Another infestor abusing zerg with average abilities undeservedly joins a top team. Not surprising.


Ouch man, that's harsh. I'm not saying you're wrong or right, but whether someone "deserves" a top team is kind of irrelevant no? If D and Tefel come to an agreement, that's that. How much he's worth, what they're paying, well that's up to them. I don't know if there's a personal grudge or something, but lets try to be happy for the player and team.

If you're unhappy with where you're at, maybe you should talk to Dignitas too? They could use a T..

As for Jrecco, he's a very young player with a lot of growth potential. Even if we ignore what he's winning in his state now, I can see teams wanting to invest into a player like him because it could pay off huge in 6 months.
http://www.glhf.tv fighting! Former WesternWolves & LowLandLions operations manager.
HappyZerGling
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Ukraine161 Posts
November 20 2012 12:47 GMT
#66
glgl!

cloud... no comments :D
happy me, happy skill, happy win :D twitch.tv/happyzerg https://twitter.com/HappyZerG1
MepHiii
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland191 Posts
November 20 2012 12:52 GMT
#67
On November 20 2012 21:18 Martijn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2012 20:00 aTnClouD wrote:
Another infestor abusing zerg with average abilities undeservedly joins a top team. Not surprising.


Ouch man, that's harsh. I'm not saying you're wrong or right, but whether someone "deserves" a top team is kind of irrelevant no? If D and Tefel come to an agreement, that's that. How much he's worth, what they're paying, well that's up to them. I don't know if there's a personal grudge or something, but lets try to be happy for the player and team.

If you're unhappy with where you're at, maybe you should talk to Dignitas too? They could use a T..

As for Jrecco, he's a very young player with a lot of growth potential. Even if we ignore what he's winning in his state now, I can see teams wanting to invest into a player like him because it could pay off huge in 6 months.

telling a team their players are shit is usually the best way to start the conversation
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
November 20 2012 13:11 GMT
#68
Picking up any zerg at the moment is an interesting choice, and bound to generate some amount of contention. I haven't seen much of Tefel but I look forward to seeing what he can do.
oneill12
Profile Joined February 2012
Romania1222 Posts
November 20 2012 13:18 GMT
#69
Nice signing!
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
November 20 2012 13:26 GMT
#70
Good job Dignitas!! Picking up some good unexplored European talent

Need find a korean as a replacement for Mr Select though imo :3
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Liquid`Ret
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Netherlands4511 Posts
November 20 2012 13:51 GMT
#71
good pickup
Team Liquid
CrazyIvanPL
Profile Joined September 2011
Poland220 Posts
November 20 2012 13:56 GMT
#72
According to obvious facts, NA server has lower skill lvl than EU and EU has lower than Korea, so i think that when someons from Eu is playing on NA client and gets smashed, as was mentioned earlier this ( not always ofc) could happen due to lag, delay and late night hours in EU. Not trying to offend anyone, but saying that EU lvl is worse than NA is a bit foolish, as most of GM top players are same in all non asian servers, as there rule Koreans. GL to Tefel and Team Dignitas hope to see them more!
mythandier
Profile Joined January 2011
United States828 Posts
November 20 2012 14:09 GMT
#73
I've seen Tefel take games off the top players in EU for some time now.

But at the same time I can't help but think that maybe Cloud has a point...

Either way, congrats to Tefel and good luck Dignitas.
Satiinifi
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland192 Posts
November 20 2012 14:24 GMT
#74
I pray for dear lord that he doesnt still make pool first vs terran, like he did past 2 years... that would just be embarrasing....
NMHU.
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada110 Posts
November 20 2012 14:33 GMT
#75
Who
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
November 20 2012 14:34 GMT
#76
Tears...flavored with envy...
Best of luck Tefel!
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
SXGCoil
Profile Joined February 2012
United States341 Posts
November 20 2012 14:34 GMT
#77
I haven't heard much of Tefel but from what little there is he seems like a solid pick up.
Noispaxen
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland150 Posts
November 20 2012 14:38 GMT
#78
I guess trying to get back to liking ClouD after the HSC last year was a pretty wasteful effort.
http://www.facebook.com/NoispaxenSC2 ||| http://www.twitch.tv/noispaxen
Darg
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland18 Posts
November 20 2012 15:23 GMT
#79
On November 20 2012 15:21 KingOfPain wrote:
really good pick up, 2nd best zerg in poland, good luck



Actually 3rd... Paran0id is still better.

Good to see another Polish player in good shape
Martijn
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands1219 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-20 15:29:18
November 20 2012 15:27 GMT
#80
On November 20 2012 21:52 MepHiii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2012 21:18 Martijn wrote:
On November 20 2012 20:00 aTnClouD wrote:
Another infestor abusing zerg with average abilities undeservedly joins a top team. Not surprising.


Ouch man, that's harsh. I'm not saying you're wrong or right, but whether someone "deserves" a top team is kind of irrelevant no? If D and Tefel come to an agreement, that's that. How much he's worth, what they're paying, well that's up to them. I don't know if there's a personal grudge or something, but lets try to be happy for the player and team.

If you're unhappy with where you're at, maybe you should talk to Dignitas too? They could use a T..

As for Jrecco, he's a very young player with a lot of growth potential. Even if we ignore what he's winning in his state now, I can see teams wanting to invest into a player like him because it could pay off huge in 6 months.

telling a team their players are shit is usually the best way to start the conversation


¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I'm not going to pretend it was a clever thing of him to say.

btw your hoodies are shit..
..can I have one?
http://www.glhf.tv fighting! Former WesternWolves & LowLandLions operations manager.
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 18m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SortOf 79
StarCraft: Brood War
PianO 508
Pusan 120
Shinee 100
EffOrt 69
NaDa 33
Aegong 29
Bale 24
GoRush 19
IntoTheRainbow 14
Hm[arnc] 11
[ Show more ]
Sea 0
Dota 2
BananaSlamJamma353
XaKoH 194
NeuroSwarm91
League of Legends
JimRising 676
Counter-Strike
shoxiejesuss462
Stewie2K390
Other Games
summit1g6066
ceh9330
C9.Mang0219
Tasteless127
Mew2King68
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL8918
Other Games
gamesdonequick999
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH112
• LUISG 12
• Light_VIP 8
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1470
• Lourlo486
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
2h 18m
OSC
4h 18m
Wardi Open
1d 3h
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
Safe House 2
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
Safe House 2
3 days
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
WardiTV TLMC #15
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
EC S1
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025

Upcoming

SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Offline Finals
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.