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ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
September 01 2012 07:37 GMT
#61
On September 01 2012 15:44 Sinedd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2012 14:03 TheShimmy wrote:
On September 01 2012 12:59 BLinD-RawR wrote:
PvP, you can only make Dark Archons.

it would be hilarious.


This.

naaah.. it sound boring..

no goon for PvP sounds pretty cool tho

stargate only pvp!
Writerptrk
Reason
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United Kingdom2770 Posts
September 01 2012 15:10 GMT
#62
On August 31 2012 22:36 bITt.mAN wrote:
Reason it's Game, all the Reason for playing Games on Fish have been awesomed-to-death, and always lead to angry sidetracks of threads, on topics that don't need to be revisited since they're unfruitful and explosive.

I'm really excited about this tourney. If there was ever an offrace matchup I picked, it was always ZvZ, with the sole intent of perfecting my +1 attack timing bust before muta. Sadly, it was an auto-loss to hatch-first, or players who were better than me, but I'm still excited to see it happen.

Is this a good venue to suggest and theorycraft wacky ZvZ builds? Oh, please!


I don't know what that means other than that you are afraid the absolute truthfulness and undeniable nature of your response will derail this thread heavily with mixed opinions. Thanks for your extremely useful and contradictory response.[read absolutely useless and waste of space]


So yeah, what's so good about Fish server and why are people playing there?
Speak properly, and in as few words as you can, but always plainly; for the end of speech is not ostentation, but to be understood.
Game
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
September 02 2012 07:05 GMT
#63
On September 02 2012 00:10 Reason wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 22:36 bITt.mAN wrote:
Reason it's Game, all the Reason for playing Games on Fish have been awesomed-to-death, and always lead to angry sidetracks of threads, on topics that don't need to be revisited since they're unfruitful and explosive.

I'm really excited about this tourney. If there was ever an offrace matchup I picked, it was always ZvZ, with the sole intent of perfecting my +1 attack timing bust before muta. Sadly, it was an auto-loss to hatch-first, or players who were better than me, but I'm still excited to see it happen.

Is this a good venue to suggest and theorycraft wacky ZvZ builds? Oh, please!


I don't know what that means other than that you are afraid the absolute truthfulness and undeniable nature of your response will derail this thread heavily with mixed opinions. Thanks for your extremely useful and contradictory response.[read absolutely useless and waste of space]


So yeah, what's so good about Fish server and why are people playing there?

It's more populated with higher quality players.
SC is like sex. You should play often, but never too hard. And you should only try hard when it matters.
Reason
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United Kingdom2770 Posts
September 02 2012 11:04 GMT
#64
Cheers Game. I went on once and was scared away by all the korean symbols etc Not a friendly server for us foreigners imo.
Speak properly, and in as few words as you can, but always plainly; for the end of speech is not ostentation, but to be understood.
Game
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
September 02 2012 18:19 GMT
#65
On September 02 2012 20:04 Reason wrote:
Cheers Game. I went on once and was scared away by all the korean symbols etc Not a friendly server for us foreigners imo.

Indeed, it's just a better place to play in general. There is no community, as those develop on their own and can't be implemented by the server.
SC is like sex. You should play often, but never too hard. And you should only try hard when it matters.
Game
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-03 01:11:15
September 03 2012 00:44 GMT
#66
On September 01 2012 13:06 Game wrote:
Important:


The cast time has been officially changed to Sunday, September 9th beginning at 16CET. We'd like to give you guys something great to watch as individual parties, but also the gosu players while they wait to play their Gambit's Cup matches.

Sorry to play with anyone's emotions, but we're changing it again. Now that hacklebeast is available to cast at a more primed hour after his release of obligations to Gambit's Cup, the cast will now begin one the same day, Sunday, September 9th at 17CET.
SC is like sex. You should play often, but never too hard. And you should only try hard when it matters.
Pucca
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Taiwan1280 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-04 15:44:32
September 04 2012 02:38 GMT
#67
Hey game can you give BLITZ an update regarding your current tournaments. Also would you be available to on be air with us on Thursday at 10:00 EST

I'm taking that as a "no response" yes?
Master Chief
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
September 04 2012 04:31 GMT
#68
On September 01 2012 16:37 ArvickHero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2012 15:44 Sinedd wrote:
On September 01 2012 14:03 TheShimmy wrote:
On September 01 2012 12:59 BLinD-RawR wrote:
PvP, you can only make Dark Archons.

it would be hilarious.


This.

naaah.. it sound boring..

no goon for PvP sounds pretty cool tho

stargate only pvp!


this would be so good

maybe we'd actually see scouts :O
can i get my estro logo back pls
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
September 04 2012 05:48 GMT
#69
--- Nuked ---
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
September 04 2012 07:33 GMT
#70
On September 01 2012 16:37 ArvickHero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2012 15:44 Sinedd wrote:
On September 01 2012 14:03 TheShimmy wrote:
On September 01 2012 12:59 BLinD-RawR wrote:
PvP, you can only make Dark Archons.

it would be hilarious.


This.

naaah.. it sound boring..

no goon for PvP sounds pretty cool tho

stargate only pvp!

thats actually a brilliant idea..

GO FOR IT !!! :D
T H C makes ppl happy
Game
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
September 04 2012 12:47 GMT
#71
On September 04 2012 14:48 krndandaman wrote:
are signups full?

Not as of yet. There are 3 available slots, feel free to register at your earliest convenience.
SC is like sex. You should play often, but never too hard. And you should only try hard when it matters.
Soulforged
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Latvia974 Posts
September 04 2012 16:37 GMT
#72
allow spire after hive
brolaf
Profile Joined May 2012
291 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-04 23:24:56
September 04 2012 23:22 GMT
#73
On September 01 2012 00:12 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2012 00:01 Eywa- wrote:
On August 31 2012 23:53 EchOne wrote:
I just can't wait to see what the stipulations for TvT and PvP will be.

No Tanks, No Dragoons.


lol better yet, no factory TvT.

EDIT: well you can build one but you can't make units out of it

But mass wraith is already kind of overpowered late game, this might cut out the midgame tank & vult sstage out altogether :/
On September 04 2012 16:33 Sinedd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2012 16:37 ArvickHero wrote:
On September 01 2012 15:44 Sinedd wrote:
On September 01 2012 14:03 TheShimmy wrote:
On September 01 2012 12:59 BLinD-RawR wrote:
PvP, you can only make Dark Archons.

it would be hilarious.


This.

naaah.. it sound boring..

no goon for PvP sounds pretty cool tho

stargate only pvp!

thats actually a brilliant idea..

GO FOR IT !!! :D

Wouldnt that be pretty much like the zvz "exciting" air battles :S
sundersoft
Profile Joined November 2011
91 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-05 03:37:00
September 05 2012 03:36 GMT
#74
On September 05 2012 08:22 brolaf wrote:
But mass wraith is already kind of overpowered late game, this might cut out the midgame tank & vult sstage out altogether :/

Bio is good against wraiths (and battlecruisers, although they have high armor), but no one uses it because it dies to tanks.
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-05 03:47:00
September 05 2012 03:46 GMT
#75
I actually wonder if bio is good vs bcs. I imagine they are a lot like ultras with the armor upgrade already bought. The have more health, can't be irradiated, have range, stack better and can't be blocked by medics. But on the other hand a lot more expediencies, and a lot slower so you can't get them out of a bad situation, or defend harass very well. Would be interesting.
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
Game
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
September 05 2012 04:01 GMT
#76
On September 05 2012 12:46 hacklebeast wrote:
I actually wonder if bio is good vs bcs. I imagine they are a lot like ultras with the armor upgrade already bought. The have more health, can't be irradiated, have range, stack better and can't be blocked by medics. But on the other hand a lot more expediencies, and a lot slower so you can't get them out of a bad situation, or defend harass very well. Would be interesting.

Irradiate/dmatrix an scv and send it over bio while the other bc's shoot at the bio. OHMUHGAH
SC is like sex. You should play often, but never too hard. And you should only try hard when it matters.
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
September 05 2012 04:18 GMT
#77
On September 05 2012 13:01 Game wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2012 12:46 hacklebeast wrote:
I actually wonder if bio is good vs bcs. I imagine they are a lot like ultras with the armor upgrade already bought. The have more health, can't be irradiated, have range, stack better and can't be blocked by medics. But on the other hand a lot more expediencies, and a lot slower so you can't get them out of a bad situation, or defend harass very well. Would be interesting.

Irradiate/dmatrix an scv and send it over bio while the other bc's shoot at the bio. OHMUHGAH

EMP the medics ;o
Writerptrk
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
September 05 2012 04:26 GMT
#78
Irradiate the scvs, put them in dropships, go for scv chemical bombs on the bio. (also irradiate the dropships)
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
sapht
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden141 Posts
September 05 2012 06:25 GMT
#79
Spend superflous gas on ghosts and lockdown BCs, dropships and irradiated SCVs.
You can use control groups to train units without even looking at your base.
bITt.mAN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Switzerland3693 Posts
September 05 2012 08:49 GMT
#80
Seriously though, without Tanks and mines, mass bio+lockdown would really work! Anyone who says different, don't do so witout challenging me to a bo9 TvT to let me prove my point (or that I just really want a TvT practice partner). Also, optical flare on the Science Vessels, then sneak the ghosts in under the BCs < :
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