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Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
September 05 2012 09:09 GMT
#81
On September 05 2012 17:49 bITt.mAN wrote:
Seriously though, without Tanks and mines, mass bio+lockdown would really work! Anyone who says different, don't do so witout challenging me to a bo9 TvT to let me prove my point (or that I just really want a TvT practice partner). Also, optical flare on the Science Vessels, then sneak the ghosts in under the BCs < :

sounds amazing..

I WANT TO SEE IT !!!

:D
T H C makes ppl happy
RedW4rr10r
Profile Joined January 2010
Switzerland746 Posts
September 05 2012 09:56 GMT
#82
Omg, seriously? Only Zergs in a tournament?
Sorry for that bad joke!!

What a cool idea! I'm looking forward to watching these games!! Finally some hive tech ZvZs... I hope

On September 05 2012 18:09 Sinedd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2012 17:49 bITt.mAN wrote:
Seriously though, without Tanks and mines, mass bio+lockdown would really work! Anyone who says different, don't do so witout challenging me to a bo9 TvT to let me prove my point (or that I just really want a TvT practice partner). Also, optical flare on the Science Vessels, then sneak the ghosts in under the BCs < :

sounds amazing..

I WANT TO SEE IT !!!

:D

+1 !!
Rip & Tear until it is done!
Wgtourmaps
Profile Joined September 2012
Niger82 Posts
September 06 2012 00:09 GMT
#83
Despite people saying ZvZ is a coin toss, I think Sziky is going to win this hands down.
sundersoft
Profile Joined November 2011
91 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-06 16:55:57
September 06 2012 16:53 GMT
#84
If factory is banned, you pretty much have to go bio because there would be no other way to spend your minerals. That would mean that you could spend your gas on: ghosts, battlecruisers/wraiths, or science vessels (I'm excluding special-purpose units).

If you want to be boring and have low apm you'd probably be best off with medic+marine and bcs/wraiths.

If your opponent has a lot of bio or ghosts you could go vessels, since EMP and irradiate are strong. You could defense matrix one of their medics (which your units won't target automatically) and irradiate it. They can't kill the medic because it's defense matrixed so they would have to split their army and try to move it away. To counter this, your opponent could either use restoration or have a dropship next to their bio army to pick up irradiated units (to save some research costs). You could also defense matrix and irradiate one of your flying units and use it to eraser the marines but that seems like it wouldn't work.

If you're fighting BCs with marines, defense matrix seems like it would be strong. Since the D-matrixed marine is usually in front, you don't have to worry as much about irradiate being used on it.

Ghosts have higher range than range-upgraded marines, so they might be useful in a large bio army. Also, your opponent might not notice cloaked ghosts in a marine army so they should be pretty durable. If you have no army and your opponent has BCs, you could go mass ghosts + nukes, lock down thier army, and nuke it. Normally you would need wraiths to kill locked down BCs; I'm not sure if bio has enough DPS.

Optical flare wouldn't really do much to vessels because Terran still has scan.

Also, if one terran transitions from bio to bcs, they probably won't have 3/3 air upgrades yet (whereas their bio should be 3/3 assuming they didn't go mass wraiths early) so that would create a timing where bio is good against bcs.
Mewka
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland1458 Posts
September 06 2012 17:26 GMT
#85
gogo Baku :D
Mewka, Mewka[AoV], Fox.Mewka, Mewman
Game
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
September 07 2012 05:50 GMT
#86
Brackets are up.
SC is like sex. You should play often, but never too hard. And you should only try hard when it matters.
dOTY
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany483 Posts
September 07 2012 06:15 GMT
#87
I am going to destroy you sziky, fear my zvz !!!
It’s cool to cry, don’t ever question your strength .
TheShimmy
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1808 Posts
September 07 2012 06:15 GMT
#88
Baku has this ezpz
Hyvaa #1 Fan. Gogo STX, Dear, Bogus, Classic, and Mini! Always a BW fan!
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
September 07 2012 06:18 GMT
#89
On September 07 2012 15:15 dOTY wrote:
I am going to destroy you sziky, fear my zvz !!!


Aside from technics/castro, your match is the one I'm most excited for in the first round.
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
September 07 2012 08:57 GMT
#90
lol nice pairings !
T H C makes ppl happy
Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
September 07 2012 09:03 GMT
#91
Can't wait for sziky lings vs doty lings .o.
En Taro Violet
Wgtourmaps
Profile Joined September 2012
Niger82 Posts
September 07 2012 17:11 GMT
#92
Hacklebeast you should be excited about Babo playing in this. Even though he 2v2 player, he is a league above most top 2v2ers.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
September 08 2012 05:49 GMT
#93
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trutaCz
Profile Joined October 2011
Poland686 Posts
September 08 2012 16:39 GMT
#94
channel?
yo~.~
Game
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
September 08 2012 16:42 GMT
#95
Op Ribbon, sorry.
SC is like sex. You should play often, but never too hard. And you should only try hard when it matters.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
September 08 2012 16:57 GMT
#96
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Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
September 08 2012 17:27 GMT
#97
I already cant wait for the cast !!! this is gonna be so good ! :D

gogogo
T H C makes ppl happy
Game
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
September 08 2012 17:29 GMT
#98
On September 09 2012 01:57 krndandaman wrote:
Imma be home in like 30min..is that ok?

If the set correlating to your set doesn't finish beforehand, I'm sure Bakuryu will play you. I just suggest you hurry up.
SC is like sex. You should play often, but never too hard. And you should only try hard when it matters.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
September 08 2012 17:30 GMT
#99
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Bakuryu
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany1065 Posts
September 08 2012 17:51 GMT
#100
i received w.o even though i wanted to play u dsyxelic T_T
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