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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
May 16 2011 05:46 GMT
#61
I agree. Everyone should make a short little post, so we can immmediately get some background info on each person. If we get lucky, we may catch a Mafia (who knows :D)
AKA gigyas, gigas, giygas khan, giyga khan, giyga...
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 16 2011 05:57 GMT
#62
@VisceraEyes yes, you are. You can change your vote as many times as you like.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 16 2011 06:06 GMT
#63
You guys are reading my mind. Talking will be key here. I'm going to go ahead and give you guys a general overview of how I'll be approaching this game.

First of all, it's a GAME. I'll be playing. You'll be playing. We'll be playing together. These are good, happy things. If I FoS (Finger of Suspicion) you, please don't get offended. I'm sure people will be pointing a finger or two at me, and that's just fine. As I have nothing to hide, I'll generally react with interest and intrigue more than anger and concern. I ask that out of courtesy, you guys do the same.

I'll analyze EVERY SINGLE post you make, and I please urge you to do the same to me. We've got to find killers here, people! They're not gonna find themselves.

Also, just so everyone's aware, I'll be most active in the later evening and will be virtually invisible from early-morning to early-evening. I'm not lurking during those times, I'm genuinely not close to a computer.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 16 2011 06:19 GMT
#64
On May 16 2011 12:52 Mataza wrote:
lynch and night kill. It means two people die between days.
First day we are 12, and on day 4 we will be 6. If we never catch a maf, we lose then, because to vote we need to be more than 50% Townies.

I think I overestimated my town

Captain obvious also says:
flamewheel91 is the Town Coach.
Caller is the Mafia Coach.
Qatol is the Neutral Coach.

Asking the very basic questions is spam that doesn´t get us any information, which is anti town behaviour.
I bet you 5 dollar that at least 1 mafia guy will pretend to not understand how the game works, if we keep asking dumb questions. We have Coaches for questions.


After rereading this post, I have a question for Mataza. At the beginning of a game, one starts to think about their goals. Your first act in this game was to count the minimum number of days before mafia wins under optimal circumstances. Why is that?

if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
May 16 2011 06:52 GMT
#65
On May 16 2011 15:19 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2011 12:52 Mataza wrote:
lynch and night kill. It means two people die between days.
First day we are 12, and on day 4 we will be 6. If we never catch a maf, we lose then, because to vote we need to be more than 50% Townies.

I think I overestimated my town

Captain obvious also says:
flamewheel91 is the Town Coach.
Caller is the Mafia Coach.
Qatol is the Neutral Coach.

Asking the very basic questions is spam that doesn´t get us any information, which is anti town behaviour.
I bet you 5 dollar that at least 1 mafia guy will pretend to not understand how the game works, if we keep asking dumb questions. We have Coaches for questions.


After rereading this post, I have a question for Mataza. At the beginning of a game, one starts to think about their goals. Your first act in this game was to count the minimum number of days before mafia wins under optimal circumstances. Why is that?



Mhm, and you've also mentioned the Mafia's purported strategy, which is to stay under the radar. Something you haven't done. If you wanted someone to go off the path of finding the mafia, you would say that the strategy they would perform would be completely opposite to what you were doing. Also, you were the first one to make basic rules to know HE IS THE MAFIA.
AKA gigyas, gigas, giygas khan, giyga khan, giyga...
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
May 16 2011 07:43 GMT
#66
Nice assumptions.

So you say I WIFOM. Wifom is a gamble and you don´t win by gambling.
(Wifom stands "wine in front of me". Look it up)

I mathamatized to know how much time we have to our first scum. 3 days is a lot. I say that because on Epicmafia, were I played sometimes, there were setups with day 1 lylo. And for some reason mafia only had 50% win on that setup. Don´t know why, and I completely lost faith in the players there.

Could we maybe start with the blaming once everyone has at least posted once or twice?
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
May 16 2011 07:44 GMT
#67
This is starting out well - looking forward to find and lynch the scum of this town!

Im new to this game so I just want to stand up and say hello !

as for the suspicion above, hope Mataza can explain himself - its kind of dangerous to be to triggerhappy as well?



victory not vengeance
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 16 2011 08:05 GMT
#68
@steff

Welcome to town! While I have reservations about Mataza myself, calling him trigger-happy is possibly unfair. We have to lynch someone today regardless, that's just a rule. It's our job to make sure it's someone nice and scummy.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
May 16 2011 08:31 GMT
#69
@VisceraEyes
yeah, sorry, my bad english right there - he was not the one i was calling triggerhappy - was rather pointing out that it would be kinda stupid to accuse someone after one single post - but as i see he pointed that out himself at the same time i posted!

hope more people will show face before end of day! - more arguments = better arguments = more fun game!
victory not vengeance
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
May 16 2011 09:44 GMT
#70
On May 16 2011 14:38 VisceraEyes wrote:
While the clarification was helpful and duly noted, you didn't actually answer my question. Can I ##unvote and vote for someone else if I've already cast a vote in-thread?

Yes, you can ##unvote and recast your vote, if you are feeling particularly nice you can actually put it in the format of ##Unvote: PlayerName, where player name is the name of the player you had voted for earlier ^_^
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nard
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany124 Posts
May 16 2011 09:49 GMT
#71
hio everyone, obligatory 1st post here.

@current discussion:

Mataza seems to be more experienced than the average newcomers here so i don't suspect him just because he made the first posts with some actual content today.. i rather find it interesting that VisceraEyes is jumping to conclusions / trying to badmouth someone that quick. :p

im really curious how were gonna settle for our 1st lynch given that no special roles are in the game!
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 16 2011 14:52 GMT
#72
@nard

Here's the thing...there might be special roles in the game; we don't know that there aren't. We're merely operating under the assumption that there are no PRs because until there's a special circumstance, there's no way to know otherwise.

At present, I'm not really badmouthing anyone. I'm asking questions. People asking questions aren't scummy, as asking questions is all we can really do (unless you count randomly pointing fingers). If you'll direct your attention to the post in question, it's clear that I'm just trying to clarify Mataza's intentions.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
May 16 2011 15:20 GMT
#73
On May 16 2011 23:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
@nard

Here's the thing...there might be special roles in the game; we don't know that there aren't. We're merely operating under the assumption that there are no PRs because until there's a special circumstance, there's no way to know otherwise.

At present, I'm not really badmouthing anyone. I'm asking questions. People asking questions aren't scummy, as asking questions is all we can really do (unless you count randomly pointing fingers). If you'll direct your attention to the post in question, it's clear that I'm just trying to clarify Mataza's intentions.

I actually think my post is to blame for people saying trigger-happy, as mine says HE IS THE MAFIA in all caps. Now I meant this jokingly, but it could have been taken as trigger happy. But, I do want Mayaza to answer our various questions.
AKA gigyas, gigas, giygas khan, giyga khan, giyga...
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
May 16 2011 15:35 GMT
#74
I kinda have to agree with Mataza, lets stop the blaming until everybody has posted once or twice. People should instead maybe just say how they're going to try to play out this first day. According to Mataza's math we need to kill a scum in the first 3 days which is a lot of time to get to know each other and I will probably be voting for those I am most unsure of, which will be those with least real content in their posts.

But really, I don't think that people should blame anybody too much after the first 10 posts 'cause there's no real basis for it.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 16 2011 15:54 GMT
#75
So yeah, we really got nothing to work with at the moment. VisceraEyes and GiygaS are kinda pointing fingers at Mataza, which I don't really mind at all. I'm sure Mataza will have no trouble whipping up a solid defense, and at least it's causing people to talk.

I'm more worried about the quiet people, it's only been 13 hours or so, but we're still missing half the town in the action.

If people don't post people don't make mistakes. So please type in a few sentences so we know you're alive:

Karshe
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Karshe
Profile Joined November 2010
United States212 Posts
May 16 2011 15:56 GMT
#76
Good morning all.

First post here, I have caught up with the thread.

As others have said, there's no real reason to suspect Mataza yet. The majority of us are fairly new to the game, and Mataza making the first "quality" post shouldn't be considered suspicious. The only thing to watch for is scum posting general tips/math to gain town cred while not actually helping our hunt. And yes, I realize I could qualify under that last statement. =P

Looking forward to scum hunting with you all. Hopefully we'll get lots of posts today and get to know everyone.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 16 2011 16:14 GMT
#77
Welcome Karshe, good morning everyone.

I shall refrain from unduly assigning suspicion to anyone until we've heard from most everyone. For the record, I don't condone policy lynching inactives...but if someone is VERY inactive in posting, but still makes it in for their one post per cycle and voting, inactivity starts to appear scummy to me.

I hope no one is offended by my initial analysis, I'm just trying to spark up conversation. More conversation = more stuff to read over and over. I like to read stuff over and over. :D
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 16 2011 16:22 GMT
#78
Inactive people are a huge problem though. They most likely aren't Mafia, and more than likely just bored townies. The problem is that they provide noise for the mafia to hide in. If there are 4-6 people that rarely post and make little contribution, one of them is bound to be mafia, even two.

Again, preferably I don't want to lynch an inactive, because it's almost guaranteed they aren't mafia. But if there are still inactive people this time tomorrow and we've got nothing else to go on, I will seriously consider casting a vote their way, if nothing else just to get them talking.
Computer says mafia
Karshe
Profile Joined November 2010
United States212 Posts
May 16 2011 16:53 GMT
#79
Inactives are a mixed bag for me. I agree that lynching them isn't the wisest choice because there's a low chance they are mafia... but inactives also irritate me to no end. I understand that RL > TL and things come up, but why join the game if you're not going to play? It just ruins the spirit of the game for me and I have low tolerence/patience for inactives.

That said, hopefully we're discussing this for no reason and we'll hear from everyone today.
hiro protagonist
Profile Joined January 2009
1294 Posts
May 16 2011 17:02 GMT
#80
good morning team. first timer here.

I agree, this is off to a good start. there is no reason to suspect anyone right now, as there is very little to go on, so its a little wait and see I agree with VisceraEyes, its important to ask alot of questions. I will want clarifications on posts I find suspicious, and please do the same for me!
"I guess if you climb enough off-widths, one of these days, your gonna get your knee stuck and shit your pants. Its just an odds thing really" -Jason Kruk
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