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On March 29 2013 06:57 jeri wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2013 18:35 Cyro wrote:![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/d1OLtPM.jpg) DIY "mouse bungee" that works a ton better than the real thing at any kind of decent ("low"..) sens (800dpi or lower - or any low sens in FPS) which is free and never needs adjusting. dat picture just made my day <3 using the same technology for like 10 years now, which outlastet i think now 8 mouses, so no need for any kabel banche holders! :D
I've used that too, it's not the same feeling of the mouse. The razer bungee costs $20, and it's competitors do too. Its hardly like you're throwing a lot of money at it. And you will never ever be able to wear it out.
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On March 29 2013 10:19 Deadlifter wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2013 06:57 jeri wrote:On March 15 2013 18:35 Cyro wrote:DIY "mouse bungee" that works a ton better than the real thing at any kind of decent ("low"..) sens (800dpi or lower - or any low sens in FPS) which is free and never needs adjusting. dat picture just made my day <3 using the same technology for like 10 years now, which outlastet i think now 8 mouses, so no need for any kabel banche holders! :D I've used that too, it's not the same feeling of the mouse. The razer bungee costs $20, and it's competitors do too. Its hardly like you're throwing a lot of money at it. And you will never ever be able to wear it out.
They dont react well to you moving the mouse large distances though. I mean more than half a meter at times in FPS, i dont know how anyone could use them - I don't think they are even discussed in high level FPS scene, and the discomfort and drag is enough for me to not want to use one for 400-800dpi rts
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How do you figure that a mouse bungee, which raises a mouse cord off of the mouse pad, introduces drag?
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On March 29 2013 10:26 Cyro wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2013 10:19 Deadlifter wrote:On March 29 2013 06:57 jeri wrote:On March 15 2013 18:35 Cyro wrote:DIY "mouse bungee" that works a ton better than the real thing at any kind of decent ("low"..) sens (800dpi or lower - or any low sens in FPS) which is free and never needs adjusting. dat picture just made my day <3 using the same technology for like 10 years now, which outlastet i think now 8 mouses, so no need for any kabel banche holders! :D I've used that too, it's not the same feeling of the mouse. The razer bungee costs $20, and it's competitors do too. Its hardly like you're throwing a lot of money at it. And you will never ever be able to wear it out. They dont react well to you moving the mouse large distances though. I mean more than half a meter at times in FPS, i dont know how anyone could use them - I don't think they are even discussed in high level FPS scene, and the discomfort and drag is enough for me to not want to use one for 400-800dpi rts
Half a meter? I've got a QCK+ on my desk here and its not even half a meter long. I can't imagine anyone needing more mouse real estate than that, but hey, I'm not interested in dropping money on a mouse bungee either. :p
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On March 29 2013 13:43 Havik_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2013 10:26 Cyro wrote:On March 29 2013 10:19 Deadlifter wrote:On March 29 2013 06:57 jeri wrote:On March 15 2013 18:35 Cyro wrote:DIY "mouse bungee" that works a ton better than the real thing at any kind of decent ("low"..) sens (800dpi or lower - or any low sens in FPS) which is free and never needs adjusting. dat picture just made my day <3 using the same technology for like 10 years now, which outlastet i think now 8 mouses, so no need for any kabel banche holders! :D I've used that too, it's not the same feeling of the mouse. The razer bungee costs $20, and it's competitors do too. Its hardly like you're throwing a lot of money at it. And you will never ever be able to wear it out. They dont react well to you moving the mouse large distances though. I mean more than half a meter at times in FPS, i dont know how anyone could use them - I don't think they are even discussed in high level FPS scene, and the discomfort and drag is enough for me to not want to use one for 400-800dpi rts Half a meter? I've got a QCK+ on my desk here and its not even half a meter long. I can't imagine anyone needing more mouse real estate than that, but hey, I'm not interested in dropping money on a mouse bungee either. :p
I meant moving on 2 axis, maybe slight exaggeration though
On March 29 2013 11:05 Zorgon wrote:
How do you figure that a mouse bungee, which raises a mouse cord off of the mouse pad, introduces drag?
It does exactly that, lifts the cord off desk, you have to pull at it (which moves the bungee etc) to make any kind of movement that is not very small
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A better word to describe what you're talking about is tension or resistance. In any case, you can add leave enough extra cable past the tip in order to minimize that tension or resistance. This of course applies to most people and not 400-800 dpi that you mentioned earlier.
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I completely agree with Cyro, i played a lot of CS before and a mouse bungee is useless when you make large movements. But for smaller movements it feels nice, like your mouse would be cordless. For 9$ this thing is awesome.
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On March 29 2013 10:26 Cyro wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2013 10:19 Deadlifter wrote:On March 29 2013 06:57 jeri wrote:On March 15 2013 18:35 Cyro wrote:DIY "mouse bungee" that works a ton better than the real thing at any kind of decent ("low"..) sens (800dpi or lower - or any low sens in FPS) which is free and never needs adjusting. dat picture just made my day <3 using the same technology for like 10 years now, which outlastet i think now 8 mouses, so no need for any kabel banche holders! :D I've used that too, it's not the same feeling of the mouse. The razer bungee costs $20, and it's competitors do too. Its hardly like you're throwing a lot of money at it. And you will never ever be able to wear it out. They dont react well to you moving the mouse large distances though. I mean more than half a meter at times in FPS, i dont know how anyone could use them - I don't think they are even discussed in high level FPS scene, and the discomfort and drag is enough for me to not want to use one for 400-800dpi rts
true enough I guess, but I've played a lot of quake and even some competitive semi sponsored CS. I could always manage just fine on a 30x20 cm mouse pad, which easily is acommodated by a mouse bungee.
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Couldn't resist.
Mine:
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close up view:
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Yes, yes, there is tape. Ninja scotch yo!
It's been there for more than a year now.
As for the mouse pad size, as you can see, it's ridiculously small, but it fits, even if sometime I do want to get a bigger one, but more for comfort purposes(don't like my wrist resting on cold glass).
I didn't use any sort of cable holder before I got my Kana, but for some reason, the wire remains pretty stiff(as you can see the cord makes a sharp angle even while it's hanging, which is really good now I got that thing in place, because I don't feel any drag.) even after months of long gaming sessions, and it has a furious tendency to get stuck everywhere, so I got my tape roll and stuck it in place for good.
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Does anyone know if a pro has said he was planning on getting one of those cute new logitechs anytime soon/Commented on it? Are we gonna be able to see one of these things on the scene?
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On March 29 2013 10:26 Cyro wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2013 10:19 Deadlifter wrote:On March 29 2013 06:57 jeri wrote:On March 15 2013 18:35 Cyro wrote:DIY "mouse bungee" that works a ton better than the real thing at any kind of decent ("low"..) sens (800dpi or lower - or any low sens in FPS) which is free and never needs adjusting. dat picture just made my day <3 using the same technology for like 10 years now, which outlastet i think now 8 mouses, so no need for any kabel banche holders! :D I've used that too, it's not the same feeling of the mouse. The razer bungee costs $20, and it's competitors do too. Its hardly like you're throwing a lot of money at it. And you will never ever be able to wear it out. They dont react well to you moving the mouse large distances though. I mean more than half a meter at times in FPS, i dont know how anyone could use them - I don't think they are even discussed in high level FPS scene, and the discomfort and drag is enough for me to not want to use one for 400-800dpi rts
... I have been using that same "strategy" for a while now, I believe 2 years, and I use my mouse at around 200 dpi. I feel absolutely no "drag" or whatever you speak of, I personally think that all of that "drag" is a bunch of baloney in order to promote their mouse bungees. Works great for me.
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so what i have seen/heard right know, top 3 mouses used bei sc2 pros are g9x/zowie/razer abys+some random razors. havent seen one roccat so far. why is that? are they rly so bad? i tested one for a bit, roccat-pure was it i think. pretty confy in the hand, almost better than g9x, mediumlight, very ergonomic. but it was a bit expensive, compared to g9x and i have read a lots of complains, that the mousescroll is like breaking super fast in every 3-4 mouse.
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On March 24 2013 19:32 Thor.Rush wrote:
I'd like to know how much dpi these pros are using. Day9 recommends having between 1600-2000 dpi, but I thought most pros used 800-1000.
The reason I'm interested, is because I haven't played sc2 in over a year and I just bought a new mouse. I wanna start all fresh with a new dpi setting.
liquid hero set his mouse to 450dpi confirm with him at stream
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On April 13 2013 02:19 jeri wrote:
so what i have seen/heard right know, top 3 mouses used bei sc2 pros are g9x/zowie/razer abys+some random razors. havent seen one roccat so far. why is that? are they rly so bad? i tested one for a bit, roccat-pure was it i think. pretty confy in the hand, almost better than g9x, mediumlight, very ergonomic. but it was a bit expensive, compared to g9x and i have read a lots of complains, that the mousescroll is like breaking super fast in every 3-4 mouse.
First of all the usuage of the mice is up to whether the pro feels
comfortable with it or not. The reason you see no roccat mice is because roccat doenst sponsor any sc2 pro team(i think).
While razer is known for their good mice (you could argue about this but most mice are actually pretty decent i never had problems with my mouse and im using it for several years) roccat has kinda a bad reputation.
So before everything got sponsored by razer many pros used their logitech mice like the G9 (most of them used them without shell, so did i b4 i even heard of a game called "starcraft"  ), wich im getting again btw for me its a great mouse it really fits my style holding the mouse. So what the pros use nowadays (in terms of brands) has little to do with what they think is best. And a mouse that jd or mkp uses is not going to makr you better. Generally there is nothing wrong with roccat mice but i would recommend to read through some comments (amazon for example) before buying it.
Most players sponsored by razer use the Abyssus (some the imperator or deathadder),
most of the players sponsored by zowie use the mico, some of them just stick with their own mice (most of the
time g9) but the moral of the story is dont buy something that your favorite player uses but you dont really feel comfortable with! If you like the roccat mouse buy it if you like the g9 buy that one (but remember to check the reviews and comments ^^ mice are pretty expensive today ) Personally i used my imperator all the time and it was excellent but after several years of testing im going to get a g9 again just because i prefer small mice the imperator i feel like way too
much of my hand is using wich for the first part feels strange and for the otherpart is less accurate (for me, there are actually people prefering palm grips^^)
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On April 01 2013 20:13 FakePseudo wrote:Couldn't resist. Mine: + Show Spoiler +close up view: + Show Spoiler +Yes, yes, there is tape. Ninja scotch yo! It's been there for more than a year now. As for the mouse pad size, as you can see, it's ridiculously small, but it fits, even if sometime I do want to get a bigger one, but more for comfort purposes(don't like my wrist resting on cold glass). I didn't use any sort of cable holder before I got my Kana, but for some reason, the wire remains pretty stiff(as you can see the cord makes a sharp angle even while it's hanging, which is really good now I got that thing in place, because I don't feel any drag.) even after months of long gaming sessions, and it has a furious tendency to get stuck everywhere, so I got my tape roll and stuck it in place for good. __ On Subject: Does anyone know if a pro has said he was planning on getting one of those cute new logitechs anytime soon/Commented on it? Are we gonna be able to see one of these things on the scene?
I'm not a pro, but I got my g100s yesterday, will be doing a thorough review on it, though I'd like to wait to start till I get my goliathus for testing purposes. I can say that for Star2 its seems ok so far, but i have a few quips with it.
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I assume most korean pros use the g9 without an attached frame/cover. I used it with the anti-sweat grip addon, but imo the CM storm spawn is way better in terms of comfort, and supposedly better accuracy (just got this mouse).
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On April 13 2013 14:20 IceBergZ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2013 19:32 Thor.Rush wrote:
I'd like to know how much dpi these pros are using. Day9 recommends having between 1600-2000 dpi, but I thought most pros used 800-1000.
The reason I'm interested, is because I haven't played sc2 in over a year and I just bought a new mouse. I wanna start all fresh with a new dpi setting. liquid hero set his mouse to 450dpi confirm with him at stream
By watching how he moves his mouse, assuming he playing at 1080 res., there's no way that's correct.
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On April 14 2013 01:14 kill619 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2013 14:20 IceBergZ wrote:On March 24 2013 19:32 Thor.Rush wrote:
I'd like to know how much dpi these pros are using. Day9 recommends having between 1600-2000 dpi, but I thought most pros used 800-1000.
The reason I'm interested, is because I haven't played sc2 in over a year and I just bought a new mouse. I wanna start all fresh with a new dpi setting. liquid hero set his mouse to 450dpi confirm with him at stream By watching how he moves his mouse, assuming he playing at 1080 res., there's no way that's correct.
he very well could be, but that doesn't take into account all the other variables like sensitivity, windows or otherwise.
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MKP was using a pink zowie MiCO during WCS today, I didn't screen shot it but I am sure someone can find it.
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On March 16 2013 01:13 eBinTestO wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2013 19:10 blackone wrote:
Is there any way we could get the OP updated? Day[9] - Razer Diamondback 3G / Day[9] mousepad / Das Keyboard Ultimate (MX Brown?) EG.DeMusLiM - Razer Abyssus / Razer Destructor 2.0 / Razer Blackwidow Tournament Edition (mx blues) EG.Machine - Razer Abyssus / Razer Goliathus / Razer Blackwidow Tournament Edition EG.iNcontroL - Razer Blackwidow 2013 / Razer Goliathus / Razer Blackwidow Tournament Edition EG.IdrA - Razer Taipan / Razer Destructor 2.0 / Razer Blackwidow Tournament Edition EG.Stephano - Razer Taipan / Razer Goliathus / Razer Blackwidow Tournament Edition EG.Thorzain - Razer Abyssus / Razer Goliathus / Razer Blackwidow Tournament Edition EG.Suppy - Razer Abyssus / Razer Goliathus / Razer Blackwidow Tournament Edition EG.JD - Razer Abyssus / Razer Goliathus / Razer Blackwidow Tournament Edition (mx blue) LG-IM.NesTea - Logitech G1 / Steelseries QcK / Steelseies 6Gv2 (MX Red) LG-IM.Mvp - Steelseries Sensei [RAW] / Steelseries 4HD / Steelseies 6Gv2 (MX Red) LG-IM.Seed - Steelseries Sensei [RAW] / Steelseries 4HD / Steelseies 6Gv2 (MX Red) Liquid'Ret - Razer Abyssus / Razer Goliathus Control / Razer Blackwidow Tournament Edition Liquid'TLO - Razer Abyssus / Razer Goliathus / Razer Blackwidow Tournament Edition Liquid'Hero - Razer Abyssus / Razer Goliathus speed TL edition / Razer Blackwidow Stealth(mx browns) Liquid'Taeja - Razer Abyssus / Razer Goliathus / Razer Blackwidow Tournament Edition with custom keycaps ROOT.CatZ - Razer Imperator / Razer Goliathus / Das Keyboard Ultimate (MX Blues) Dimaga - Logitech G3/ Roccat Taito mtw edition / Noppoo Choc Mini (MX Blues) SKT.Parting - Zowie MiCO black / ? / Zowie Celeritas (MX Brown) KT.Flash - Zowie MiCO KT edition / ? / Zowie Celeritas (MX Browns?) ST.Life - Zowie MiCO / Zowie G-TF / Qpad MK-50 (MX Blues) SK.MC - Logitech G9X / Steelseries QcK+ SK edition / Steelseries 6Gv2 (MX Reds) MVP.DongRaeGu - Zowie MiCO / ? / Qsenn DT-35 STXSOULINnoVation - Logitech G9x / Razer Goliathus / Leopold FC700R (?) with custom keycaps (mx blue) FXO.Leenock - Logitech G9x / Razer Goliathus / Razer Blackwidow Tournament Edition Here's a little update, only included somewhat recent ones. If i see more on the MLG stream i will add them to this list, or change if these are wrong  l E: INnoVation uses a Leopold with custom keycaps Saw it on the MLG stream. Also, Idra said he is using the Taipan and the Destructor 2.0, and that he uses brown switches. E2: FXO.Leenock and LG-IM.Seed added E3: Just saw that Thorzain is using the Abyssus. Also added Suppy and Taeja
anyone know which razer goliathus this players using? speed or control??
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