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[Oops]Busted
Profile Joined May 2010
Korea (South)2 Posts
May 18 2010 02:01 GMT
#741
this is outrageous scandal. i am appalled at how deep this goes
I will destroy everyone in 2009
EntertainMe
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
864 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-18 02:06:41
May 18 2010 02:03 GMT
#742
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Wow... savior stooped down to whole new leve l even more... didnt know was possible...
[Oops]Busted
Profile Joined May 2010
Korea (South)2 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-18 02:05:04
May 18 2010 02:03 GMT
#743
i hope this name doesnt get banned..lol
I will destroy everyone in 2009
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
May 18 2010 02:13 GMT
#744
On May 18 2010 11:03 EntertainMe wrote:
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Wow... savior stooped down to whole new leve l even more... didnt know was possible...


What is the translation of these 2 images?
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-18 02:30:10
May 18 2010 02:28 GMT
#745
On May 18 2010 11:03 EntertainMe wrote:
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Wow... savior stooped down to whole new leve l even more... didnt know was possible...


God damn. Savior, what a fucking douchebag lol. What a selfish, evil bastard. I feel so bad for the coach.

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Translation:

First Image
- If that's the case, who was the one who reported the Game Fixing Scandal? The person is Coach Cho Kyuu Nam from CJ.

The Article Says: "A specific team's Coach found large amounts of practice videos of players stored in a computer of a player who was on vacation, and upon hearing about the truth about match fixing from the player, he reported this to KeSPA, who began the investigations"

If you read this article, it's not just replays, but "Videos". When you stoop this low, you're just insane. How could you take practice videos of your comrades and sell them for their own profit...

Second Image (This is a statement made by the coach likely BEFORE the events of the first image)
Coach Cho Kyuu Nam:
Savior plays well in practice, but he never performed when playing in actual games.
He buys a lot of brand items nowadays, maybe his mental state isn't very healthy?
I was thinking this when Investigators started investigating.
When this happened, Savior went on his knees and said.
"Coach, It's really not me. Please believe me"
Savior who was already suffering from his lack of performance was also being swept by this...
So I took him out of the roster, put him on a sick leave and told him to go home and rest.
ON the internet, there are terrible people who are spreading rumors that Savior is the criminal.
Those Fomos bastards even used Savior's silhouette on their pictures.
Things died down when I told everyone that It is 100% not savior and that I will sue anyone who spreads rumors.
When all of this is over, Savior will finally resurrect. Fighting.
"Will update slowly"

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I feel sooooo bad for the coach right now. holy shit.
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32277 Posts
May 18 2010 02:31 GMT
#746
Poor Coacho Cho
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moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-18 02:47:35
May 18 2010 02:35 GMT
#747
Ma Bonjwa.
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I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
May 18 2010 02:51 GMT
#748
Fuck, I lost my interest in SC1 after this, feeling that I was being betrayed all along..Well, maybe I still gonna watch the MSL/OSL finals though..
Terran
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
May 18 2010 02:52 GMT
#749
Wow its hard to conceive the situation Coach Cho Kyuu Nam is in. You go to bat for somebody who swears he is innocent to you, and turns out he's probably guilty. That's some hardcore betrayal
FortuneSyn
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1826 Posts
May 18 2010 03:08 GMT
#750
On May 18 2010 10:57 Captain Peabody wrote:
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Hi guys, you know match fixing in pro BW has been going on for years. No suprise to me. So why now with the scandals?
Blizzard are wanting to promote SC2. BW is a great userbase for SC2 sales, but it's also a stumbling block for conservatives that want to stay BW ( me included! ) . This is the 1st in a series of scandals that'll be hitting pro-BW over the next year or so. The idea of course is to diminish the credibilty of BW wrt to korean media and thus all BW media. Character assasination. After reducing the pro-BW korean to a mess with scandals and other tricks, blizzard will step in with refurb grants on the condition that they all shift to SC2.
Bastards. Nothing we can do. Even a 100% unified TL member embargo on SC2 would not discourage blizzard from this course of action. The BW community is going to be forcably converted to SC2.


Scene: Mike Morhaime's office, a darkened room covered in Blizzard memorabilia. Mike Morhaime sits behind his desk, stroking a cat.

Dustin Browder enters the room, and silently kneels before him.

Dustin: What is thy bidding, my master?

Morhaime: There is a great disturbance in the fanbase.

Dustin: I have felt it, my master.

Morhaime: Many of the e-sports fans are not switching over to SC2. They believe the Korean BroodWar leagues are more competitive and...fun to watch. (Morhaime sneers)

Dustin: But Kespa is just a small organization. Boxer can no longer help them...

Morhaime: They could severely lessen our sales. Already, they have succeeded in getting SC2 rated Adults Only in Korea. If they continue to oppose us, the damage would be great.

Dustin: But...if Kespa could be turned, they would be a powerful ally...

Morhaime: Yes...yes...but can it be done? We have negotiated with them for three years, and still they refuse to bow to our whims.

Dustin: If they cannot be turned...they will be destroyed.

Morhaime: Yes...but how? Our greatest legal and parapsychological pressure has been ineffective against them.

Dustin: Through Blizzard Korea and my contacts in the Illuminati, I have acquired certain information concerning the Korean progamers and proteams. Information about match-fixing scandals, involving the top echelon of players in Korea...including (Z)sAviOr himself.

Morhaime: Excellent! This information that could severely damage Kespa. I will travel to Korea immediately, and begin spreading this information among the Korean e-sports media. Kespa will be utterly destroyed!

Dustin: But what if they survive?

Morhaime: Do not worry, my servant. Through my contacts in the International Jesuit Conspiracy, I have acquired even more damaging information than this. If they will not bow to us, then they will find themselves shaken by scandal after scandal, until nothing at all remains of them but dust and ashes. And then, once Kespa is gone, we will step in, and take over all of e-sports. Starcraft 2's ascendancy will be assured!

Dustin: But what if some of the fans discover what we're doing? What if they connect us to the scandal?

Morhaime: That is unlikely. But even if they do, even if all of the foreign e-sports fans rebel against us...Kespa will fall, and there is nothing they can do to stop us. Mwa ha ha ha ha!
(Morhaime subsides into maniacal laughter)

Dustin: So be it, my master.

Dustin rises to his feet, and exits the office.

Mike Morhaime stands up slowly, and whispers an incantation over his cat. The cat transforms into a massive wing-ed HELLBEAST, which Morhaime leaps upon and rides off in the direction of Korea, cackling madly.

Was this about what you had in mind?


LOL this was fucking brilliant man!
mint_julep
Profile Joined October 2009
United States254 Posts
May 18 2010 03:14 GMT
#751
Holy Shit, savior is going to be universally reviled.

If this business about him selling teammates' replays turns out to be accurate, then I cannot imagine anyone defending him. Ever. He's going to be the dark prince of SC.

[Oops]Busted, 'The Deceiver'. Traitor to the game, his fans, his teammates. The Anti-Lim Yo Hwan.
I hope Plexa's sig is right.
[X]Ken_D
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States4650 Posts
May 18 2010 03:15 GMT
#752
No wonder I did not see Luxury play for a while. So often, he would have a huge lead in ZvZ then magically lose. Now this article shed a light on it
[X]Domain - I just do the website. Nothing more.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51564 Posts
May 18 2010 03:21 GMT
#753
On May 18 2010 11:31 IntoTheWow wrote:
Poor Coacho Cho


it's really sad because savior is the player who essentially resurrected (excuse the pun) go/cj.
Commentator
Wi)nD
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada719 Posts
May 18 2010 03:38 GMT
#754
On May 16 2010 10:57 Rekrul wrote:
it's just a news article, anyone could have written that, it's not proof!

ma jae yoon forever!!!


yay!
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
May 18 2010 03:39 GMT
#755
One wonders why he never went from really close losses rather than the terribad stuff he did. Would have had higher odds next game and it wouldn't have been so depressing/suspicious.
[゚n゚] SSSSssssssSSsss ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Marine/Raven Guide:http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=163605
Buffy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden665 Posts
May 18 2010 03:53 GMT
#756
Damn, this whole thing make's it all seem so fake. Hope the starcraft scene still goes on
Yes I am
sbox
Profile Joined May 2010
1 Post
Last Edited: 2010-05-18 03:59:11
May 18 2010 03:57 GMT
#757
This is pretty serious. As good as these players may be, they don't understand that a game is a game - to make money off it illegally is neanderthal. Hopefully they learn their lesson.



http://www.teamliquid.net/userpoll/vote.php?poll_id=8527&vote=3
Wings
Profile Joined January 2010
United States999 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-18 04:03:59
May 18 2010 04:01 GMT
#758
On May 18 2010 07:24 moopie wrote:
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On May 18 2010 07:19 Wings wrote:
regardless of whether apologies are useful/useless/good/bad/etc., I don't give a damn, I just want everyone to confess and come out into the clear so we can clear out all the fuckin cheaters and give the honest players a chance to shine again. Shit like this just takes away from the achievements that progaming has accomplished over the past few years. Boxer must be absolutely fuckin fuming, he loves ESPORTS to death. These stupid cheaters are stealing the limelight from what otherwise would be history in the making; Flash possibly sweeping both starleagues, a JD vs Flash possible rematch, Effort's possible crazy-fast revival, etc...

Savior, I loved you once, but now I absolutely loathe you. And just because you were undeniably Bonjwa doesn't save you from anything; in fact, that makes it worse for you and for ESPORTS. You were a figure everyone looked up to and respected. So disappointed.



A) Players are still shining now, even if people like you can't see it because of controversies that affect a small minority of them.

B) Even if/when names are named, you can't be guaranteed that they were the only ones involved (and likely they weren't), only that they were the only ones caught (with enough evidence to accuse/convict), so again, you not being able to enjoy e-sports or what not won't change if this is indeed your reasoning.

C) Boxer will be just fine, as will e-sports.

A) Players indeed are still shining now... like Savior? Media attention is completely on this scandal. Are you seriously saying this will not take away from esports credibility and people's interest??? Players are undoubtedly doing well, but everyone's busy trying to find out who did what, who threw matches, etc. I guess you didn't know that that's what happens during a scandal. Everyone suffers.

B) That's why I said that I wished everyone would come out, not that they will. Your reasoning is laughable and ridiculous, I'm saying that ideally if everyone who cheated came clean, people could enjoy a stronger peace of mind and trust in e-sports again. Apparently you didn't understand this.

C) Why don't you go ask him yourself? And yes, e-sports will live, just as how if I slapped you really hard in the face, you won't die... or would you?
The probability of Kim Carrier getting all those predictions wrong is similar to the probability Flash loses a TvT. Kim Carrier MUST BE a genius. His only big mistake... STORK.
Leath
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Canada1724 Posts
May 18 2010 04:04 GMT
#759
Only Terrans and Zergs cheat.

Us Protoss players are the real deal, we are incorruptible and win on skills alone. No need to fix matches.
http://www.kongregate.com/?referrer=Sagess
QuickStriker
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3694 Posts
May 18 2010 04:17 GMT
#760
On May 18 2010 11:03 EntertainMe wrote:
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Wow... savior stooped down to whole new leve l even more... didnt know was possible...

Wow... are you serious? I can't agree more, he just stooped down to a whole new level that doesn't consider him as a morally human being. I mean that's as low as it can go, just wow..
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