On June 09 2010 00:49 Emon_ wrote:
In the Violet vs. Yellow game - How do you deal with such an early drop?

Make more cannons in the main and stop teching?

u cant do anything u just lose because YellOw is just too good

Gtks

Greece135 Posts

June 08 2010 18:24 GMT

#702

You can see Flash superiority all over the game the new move that we seen in here is after Flash won the battle in 6 o clock posision Ruby didn't follow by a drop in there to take that posision back (he 'left' the expo there to Flash) he did a center push in the up middle that was the only time we seen Flash forces outplayed running back to his base, Ruby could take a defending posision and hold that advantage a really nice move worth to focus. Ruby didn't managged to hold that posision but Also the 6 o clock expo 'saved' that way from this move.

Bonus tip : The running back was telling us that Flash didn't hade enough forces to hold these posisions and maybe not the time to build more (exposed) there was that we seen the gg
If ruby also was "washed up" couse he lost many battles from Flash exellent play we will never know but that move 'won' the game, 10nx Ruby.

Ps: A Flash vod boring ? your jumps to conclusion are boring. Think again, i never seen a better player my judgment on that is based: Flash managged to move his forces from 6 o clock to 12 o clock lost posision by running and recapture this posision!! He also was playing with less expos!! Spear me the details Point is cya in the next Flash game.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/games/42270_Flash_vs_RuBy/vod

Wings

United States999 Posts

June 08 2010 18:43 GMT

#703

On June 07 2010 20:26 letian wrote:

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why? the results speak for themselves

yes, they do. This wasn't a bo5, that much is pretty clear to me loll

but I'm happy for Ruby too =)

CROrens

Croatia1005 Posts

June 08 2010 22:22 GMT

#704

On June 07 2010 19:35 teamsolid wrote:
Lol... another rematch yawn... Flash gonna rape this kid easy. Gonna go sleep

HAHA

CROrens

Croatia1005 Posts

June 08 2010 22:37 GMT

#705

oh man oh man... at jon747's video of the ace match....
12:10 - 12:20 thats probably the sickest shit i ever saw in SC

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DreaM)XeRO

Korea (South)4667 Posts

June 08 2010 22:49 GMT

#706

im stunned. i am stunned beyond words
Yellow beating Violet in a PvZ was one thing

but Ruby coming from a loss straight into ACE
and beating Flash?
mind - blowing

CROrens

Croatia1005 Posts

June 08 2010 23:09 GMT

#707

BTW yellow really schooled violet... great game

Stratos_speAr

United States6959 Posts

June 09 2010 14:26 GMT

#708

On June 08 2010 18:05 StylishVODs wrote:

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I love Jaedong. Imo he is a clear bonjwa, wtf look at his titles. Only thing is his prime was abit shadowed by bisu/flash/stork but still...

The point I'm trying to prove is past bonjwas did lose games here and there.
So that statement is reaaaaly stupid, thus the video.

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no... i'd more compare him to yooi, saint, control, cloud etc.
point is: Ruby started of with 14cc, played a solid game and won. That doesn't merrit such absurd comments this thread has gotten.

Some people can't get it out of their head that Flash's winratio is actually better than any of the bonjwas so if you are going to say he got no shot at bonjwa atleast don't say it's because he lost a game.

He's not a Bonjwa because of the controversy. Even if he does do better than previous Bonjwas, it's expected now. Being a Bonjwa isn't about the stats - it's about the atmosphere, and the previous ones brought that feeling of "This guy WILL win, he is THE best" whereas Jaedong, Flash, etc... still have chances to lose here and there and they aren't seen by everyone as completely and utterly dominant.

It's more about the perception and less about the statistics.

SuperJongMan

Jamaica11586 Posts

June 09 2010 15:02 GMT

#709

O shut up about Bonjwas.
Why are people so eager to discuss a dead horse.

foxmeep

Australia2337 Posts

June 09 2010 15:14 GMT

#710

On June 09 2010 07:37 CROrens wrote:
oh man oh man... at jon747's video of the ace match....
12:10 - 12:20 thats probably the sickest shit i ever saw in SC

+ Show Spoiler +

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuQLpyx7k0c

I'd like to see FPV of Ruby, I wonder if he controlled that or just fluked it, lol.

And to the "BO win" people, watch 8:20 of that same video. Flash has the greater army and concedes control of the centre. At 9:00 mins they clash in the middle, 3 tanks each and Flash has 8 vults to Ruby's 7. Outproduced by 14CC you say?

Lightwip

United States5497 Posts

June 11 2010 16:53 GMT

#711

I lost the LB, but it was worth it to see ACE win vs KTF(with a Yellow win too, epic)

tedster

984 Posts

June 11 2010 18:39 GMT

#712

Rewatching that game, Ruby played completely flawlessly. There are several times where he does something really small, like patroll attack an uninjured tank with a small group of vultures as they ran by, that let his own tanks win the tank battle with minimal shots etc. The ridiculous mine-targetting at 12:10 is obviously the flashiest bit of micro from this game, but the overall play was absolutely brilliant.

I find it interesting that even Jaedong has said that Ruby has some of the absolute best micro in the game - it's just that Ruby has nerve issues and has never been able to consistently play to his full potential. I'd love to see him fully overcome his fears and play as well as he occasionally demonstrates, because a Ruby occasionally puts out completely S-tier games like this one.

Rio

Vietnam598 Posts

June 11 2010 18:54 GMT

#713

Ace win = epic

Lexpar

1813 Posts

June 11 2010 21:48 GMT

#714

So freaking excited. Ace and T1... Great match up!

Iplaythings

Denmark9110 Posts

June 11 2010 23:01 GMT

#715

On June 08 2010 19:29 SuperJongMan wrote:
lol.. they are KT players because your team buys them only after they win a title.
DUH.

tbh Lux was on KT when he won his title.

plan3t

Canada75 Posts

June 12 2010 03:55 GMT

#716

A bit late to quote this but I lol'd

On June 08 2010 19:20 dk999 wrote:
The MSL curse! If you didn't forget, many players sucked after the MSL..

ForGG
Luxury
Now flash?
Am i seeing a trend here, all kt players.

Luxury started throwing games after winning the MSL.
He didn't just miraculously become terrible, hohoho.

And Flash lost a game against ACE, so what?
I'm very, very happy because of it.
ACE FIGHTING~!
also, Yellow was balling, as always.