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Balla24
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onlywonderboy
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Vanesco
United States105 Posts
For most of the game he has been trying to be fairly friendly to Balla, too friendly for my liking. Constantly asking questions as if he is confident that balla is not mafia (which only mafia would know). He has also been very aggressive against cake but when it comes to a vote he decides to vote on E00e after there was enough evidence and people voting to be able to jump on him without drawing suspicion. The entire game up till that point, almost every post he talked about his scum reads, cake was in, but then suddenly he decides on E00e after a few votes and accusations where put on him. Next he jumps on the July post, again when some votes and accusations are in. He has seemed to lost his cakeman accusation which he had for more than half the game and seems to be fine on sitting on the easy votes at that time, E00e and then July. He also votes on July after July had voted on him, maybe a revenge vote by poofter. Currently I am curious why his scum read of cake all game long went away and turned to E00e as soon as some votes and accusations of E00e were in. | ||
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StorrZerg
United States13922 Posts
On November 01 2013 12:52 nyxnyxnyx wrote: yay i wasn't on the wrongwagon! i would think one of the people who voted July is scum, and possibly also include other early-voters-who-went-inactive-before-deadline (sadly includes me) O_o not on the wrongwagon? On October 30 2013 17:14 nyxnyxnyx wrote: asians always get shafted wrt times ): so as promised, i'll try to make some reads this time rather than just not posting. so far i'm liking either Vanesco or cakeman for a day 1 lynch. cakeman constantly questioning himself is questionable (c wut i did thar?) and Vanesco's points are iterated nicely by Jonny above ^, although some parts are a stretch. barring any other sort of information so early on, i would think apologetic-ness / questiony-ness is suspicious to me. hmm gonna make some reads O_o On October 31 2013 04:07 nyxnyxnyx wrote: if i'm getting this right, the vote ends in 5 hours and i have to vote someone. ##Vote: E00e E00e hasn't said much so far, just a placeholder vote in lieu of better options, since i don't think cake or Van are scum after all. doesn't seem to have a personal read on E00e but puts the vote down here. Now we have this change of vote On October 31 2013 23:12 nyxnyxnyx wrote: once again this is a situation where timezones have a real effect. it's now 10 hours to deadline and we don't really have a clear consensus on who to vote for. i'll be around for a bit more but then i'll have to go to sleep before the rest of you guys scramble to vote in the last few hours. i don't like how tehpoofter posts. minus the inactivity thing, he posts a lot more when called to defend himself and makes minimal probes on others, as if he doesn't want to overplay his hand and accidentally reveal something. as such, my vote will be for him right now. ##Vote: Tehpoofter 10 hours a head of time his first real opinion on someone being voted On November 01 2013 02:14 nyxnyxnyx wrote: poofter has more content posted compared to E00e, who had close to nothing at the time of my vote for him. i don't like odin this game, jonny seems fine to me. do not like July either. On November 01 2013 03:51 nyxnyxnyx wrote: majority lynch would make lynching someone even harder come day 2. should just try and get lucky day 1. it's about bed time for me so i'm going back to my original vote for E00e just because it seems like the vote most likely to go through and i'm okay with that. ##Vote: E00e Another change, no real opinion on E00e other than "most likely to go through" , even though he had a much stronger opinion on Tehpoofter imo. And then finally On November 01 2013 05:02 nyxnyxnyx wrote: i actually believe E00e. let's just say i woke up at 4am for a reason and maybe it's to save you E00e. ##unvote ##Vote: OdinOfPergo Now obviously nyxnyxnyx was not around during the end of the voting. Personally i don't think you have been trying nyxnyxnyx in putting down your opinions on why your voting the way your going. You have quiet few posts for really no input. | ||
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JonnyLaw
United States3482 Posts
I asked you specifically what we need to do in order to lynch Odin and you didn't respond. You're town and you messed up. I don't know if he's worth pursuing beyond day one. We'll see soon. Day one we have a 25% chance of not killing a town player, 33% if you're counting in an SK. That's exactly why I said he's a detriment alive and he's a detriment dead. I explained this and you used it as a counter argument against my case and you lynched july. If you guys want to waste time evaluating me, then do it. Say something so we can move on. No one else has brought a case against a player then entire game except "he's not saying a lot." Do something. | ||
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JonnyLaw
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nyxnyxnyx
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Vanesco
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Obzy
United States525 Posts
On November 01 2013 13:28 JonnyLaw wrote:No one else has brought a case against a player then entire game except "he's not saying a lot." o/ he's a dick, would lynch d2 | ||
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Balla24
2322 Posts
@Jonnylaw: Building a case doesn't mean just find one thing that's inconsistent, quoting a bunch of posts that support that and then going hard on that one thing and then if nobody bites, bring up another point. I completely disagreed with your reasoning for lynching Odin, BUT I didn't have anything concrete on Odin. Only reason I was ok with lynching him was because it would give us a LOT of information and he could have possibly been scum (but there were no tells either way yet, IMO). I did think he would have been the better lynch, but I also didn't think we would get the votes, especially when we got closer to deadline and were still expecting stuff from him in which he didn't post anything... Alright. Enough with jonnylaw, gonna try to look at others objectively. Maybe i'm wrong here and both odin/jonny are town... if so sucks that we have such a split town... | ||
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Obzy
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StorrZerg
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Balla24
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From now on I will be considering people who bring up irrelevant targets when there is still heavy discussion on another target scummy. Not sure how I determine this but we'll see. For example, I would consider Odin's entry into the thread VERY scummy because of how irrelevant his reads were at that point in time. This means if you don't think someone is a good lynch target, DEFEND them and then bring up a counter-target. | ||
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StorrZerg
United States13922 Posts
On November 01 2013 13:28 JonnyLaw wrote: @obzy I think Odin was 100% worth a day one lynch and YOU, no one else are responsible for not letting it happen. I asked you specifically what we need to do in order to lynch Odin and you didn't respond. You're town and you messed up. I don't know if he's worth pursuing beyond day one. We'll see soon. Day one we have a 25% chance of not killing a town player, 33% if you're counting in an SK. That's exactly why I said he's a detriment alive and he's a detriment dead. I explained this and you used it as a counter argument against my case and you lynched july. If you guys want to waste time evaluating me, then do it. Say something so we can move on. No one else has brought a case against a player then entire game except "he's not saying a lot." Do something. Ill be honest with you jonny, if you spent more time trying to convince people that odin was a better vote, instead of asking people bad questions "who would you vote for if you controlled the 7 votes" the vote could have gone to odin. Don't blame this on obzy. Your lack of ability to help swing votes is just as much to blame as Obzy as the IC. | ||
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Balla24
2322 Posts
Unfortunately, I couldn't see anything else that Jonny could possibly have picked on though, so even though he might have been a good lynch, him being away through his entire accusation certainly makes it hard to gain anything new. | ||
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Vanesco
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Balla24
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Balla24
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Obzy
United States525 Posts
On November 01 2013 13:34 Vanesco wrote: I think that the reason why I would July over Odin lynch is that July didn't really do anything and once a little pressure was put on him he folded and gave up. He would be a really easy player for the mafia to manipulate later on and could end up being a detriment to the town. If Odin is mafia then obviously a lynch on him would have been better, but if he is town, then his loss to town would be much worse than July's since Odin at least seems to have some sort of an opinion (be it that he may put stuff out there very aggressively). I would like to hear more reasons on why you think Odin was the correct lynch for day 1. The way that July was playing, I don't think it could've been reasonably predicted that he was just a bad townie, because when the tells are "he hasn't contributed reads at all, with the single exception of the following": On November 01 2013 03:18 July617 wrote: He's acting allot like Sagaz did in our last game and Sagaz turned out to be mafia, he's really agro for no apparent reason, attacking nyx mostly in his filter on page 2 and then grasping for straws on page 3 . Suspicious yes, either way whoever dies tonight we'll see what they flip whether they be town / mafia / or blue, I honestly feel like we're going in circles here, I'd like to just lynch and be done with it and see what happens day 2. I don't think we're going to get anything more from today, not unless someone screws up and slips . I don't think it's very reasonable to assume that he was naturally going to flip town, as you seem to have known. Similarly, I took issue with the way that you defended him (as referenced in multiple posts that I made), and how you immediately turned on Balla (and myself ^_^ I hate getting yelled at  ) after the mislynch - that, theoretically, was not your fault whatsoever - because we had leveled blame at you. Although a bit of my criticism towards you is just because you're sorta being rude to me, that comes across in tone, not in the actual important parts of my posts lol. - -; I think you're objectively scummy at this point, and would like to see your answer to Van's question - Under the assumption that Odin would flip town, which you seem to have suddenly agreed with immediately after the lynch, why would lynching Odin have been a better move than lynching July?Apologies for getting a little peeved, as an aside ^_^;;; | ||
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StorrZerg
United States13922 Posts
On November 01 2013 13:59 Balla24 wrote: Holy shit yes Storr. Unfortunately, I couldn't see anything else that Jonny could possibly have picked on though, so even though he might have been a good lynch, him being away through his entire accusation certainly makes it hard to gain anything new. ill be honest, i think jonny had enough to convince me to go to odin, hell imo he had better reasons than myself going on july. | ||
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