EPTYou guys ignore what I say and go on tangents without explaining them. "july scummy"
Look at my posts. WHY WHY WHY.
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JonnyLaw
United States3482 Posts
You guys ignore what I say and go on tangents without explaining them. "july scummy" Look at my posts. WHY WHY WHY. | ||
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OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
We are both here right now. | ||
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JonnyLaw
United States3482 Posts
It's easy to say let's lynch odin, oh no obzy is right let's lynch july. Where do the rest of the july lynch train stand on the next lynch? It's a simple question. I appreciate your answer and sorry I missed it. | ||
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Obzy
United States525 Posts
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Balla24
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Balla24
2322 Posts
On November 01 2013 10:23 JonnyLaw wrote: I want people to answer that question so I can see where people stand individually instead of with someone as a shield for them. Is is that hard to see? Yes, I do find that hard to see, and don't really think the question accomplishes that.. they can easily just post anything that anybody said in day1 if they aren't making their own opinions. On top of that, when a few people have answered then sheepers can just sheep even further. Just to get this straight, you wanted to get everybodies individual opinions correct? | ||
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Balla24
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StorrZerg
United States13922 Posts
On November 01 2013 10:23 JonnyLaw wrote: I want people to answer that question so I can see where people stand individually instead of with someone as a shield for them. Is is that hard to see? It's easy to say let's lynch odin, oh no obzy is right let's lynch july. Where do the rest of the july lynch train stand on the next lynch? It's a simple question. I appreciate your answer and sorry I missed it. again asking people for their reasons why they think someone is town or scum does the exact same thing.... | ||
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Vanesco
United States105 Posts
We know for a fact that there are definitely 2-3 mafia with a possible SK. With 13 possible players and 2 being confirmed town, that means that 2/11 or 3/11 are mafia while 3/11 or 4/11 are scum. If there are 3 mafia then it would make no sense (in my opinion) for them to be arguing and trying to throw each other under the bus. It's possible, but it seems very idiotic since it shines a bad light on all 3 of them. And if town decides to lynch one of them and the other two end up backing off then it seems even more obvious that they are all mafia together, which would be a terrible play. That is why I am saying that out of Ball, Odin, and Jonny there is 1 non-mafia for sure. Worse case scenario it could be 2 mafia and SK, but I think that almost like my previous post, SK and mafia would rather prefer to stay more in the dark and not in the spotlight. So assuming you agree with my logic thus far, we can conclude that these are the current possible mafia (not including SK): Tehpoofter onlywonderboy nyxnyxnyx Vonthin Vanesco E00e StorrZerg cakemanofdoom Max 2 of Balla24/JonnyLaw/OdinOfPergo From this list you can exclude yourself (if your town, if scum then shame on you). That leaves 9/11 players that could be mafia (I would even so far as just saying all of scum is in that list). So that means that 3/9 or 4/9 of the players currently left on that list are scum. I have also made this post since later on I will give more explanation on each player and hopefully this will help town move in the right direction as well as I will be referencing this later on (I didn't want to post A LOT at once, so I am doing it in slight increments). It's been a while since I last refreshed and the last post is by Balla24 at 10:31 so I apologize if something is repeating. I would also wish for this argument to end between the three of you since I think it has run its course and move on to something else for now. You can come back to each other in a while, but it seems like all 3 of you are getting very frustrated/angry. | ||
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Obzy
United States525 Posts
On November 01 2013 06:45 JonnyLaw wrote: As the deadline approaches I still don't see how july is the best lynch target. July's posting with confidence albeit it's not good. If july flips town what have we learned? Absolutely nothing. Even E00e is better because he condemned Odin so harshly. Storr is even better at this point. He's still failing to contribute anything useful. Fuck it, if we need 7th vote I'm doing it but I see no gain of information from July's shitposting. On November 01 2013 07:00 JonnyLaw wrote: No, if E00e flips town I feel okay dropping odin as a read. Are you kidding me Obzy? July's said whatever he wants all game not caring what anyone else has said about him. If that's not confidence it's stupidity if he's scum. I believe most players in this game are not stupid. Why would you feel safe dropping odin as a read, when specifically odin is your big read up to this point, appears in almost every one of your posts, and your first quote specifically apparently is fine with killing E00e over July because he attacked your scumread? Your second quote says that you'd let odin go if E00e flipped town..? Makes no sense. Your case on Odin is basically "lol he's bad and didn't read and spammed wow what trash kill him." repeated basically since he argued with you upon entering the thread- and after July flips town, a move that supposedly garnered us no information, you exclaim On November 01 2013 09:29 JonnyLaw wrote: So, what we've leartned from july's lynching. You said we'd learn something and I did. I learned odin's probably not scum but you very well are scum balla. Joined the wagon late, as in your last two games. Try to discredit me. Woo getting interesting. Where did the Odin read go?? Note that he hadn't explained his reading the thread 4 times by this point, but when he does, On November 01 2013 09:47 JonnyLaw wrote: It does make a lot more sense. How do you type so concisely today and no tyesterday? For some reason, Odin is instantly worthy of forgiveness, and Jonny goes 100% hard on Balla, who has been the most townie this entire game, and is an absolutely idiotic target. I guess my post saying that Odin or Jonny and not both being likely scum was sort of thrown out whimsically, edit before posting - I actually didn't say that when looking back, I said I thought the vote should be between the two of them - and I'm not sure that's an opinion necessarily worth putting off - but I would like an explanation from Jonny for some of these abrupt shifts. I haven't really looked into Odin very carefully since yesterday; he had been reading townie enough to me that I didn't feel comfortable voting him, though, and I'm not sure that a reread will change that. | ||
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Obzy
United States525 Posts
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Balla24
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cakemanofdoom
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cakemanofdoom
336 Posts
More recently, his votepost on July sounded too defensive to me. He harped on his own activity compared to July, which seems silly since you don't really have to defend inactivity claims when you can just start posting more consistently. | ||
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Vanesco
United States105 Posts
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cakemanofdoom
336 Posts
He votes on E00e, which was just the largest bandwagon at the time. In other words, an easy lynch. It seems like the whole game he didn't contribute much. It's mainly his early game posts about meta stuff, followed by a rather indecisive reads post, that makes me think him a scum trying to fake helpfulness. Then his later posts don't make him seem better, since he just follows trends. nyx hasn't really posted anything I liked all game. He has retracted all his scum reads (on me, van, and e00e), while his vote on Odin sounded like he was just trying to not kill E00e rather than actually have an opinion on who's scum. And just as I'm about to post this I reread your post. Van, were you asking me about poofter rather than my opinions on other people? | ||
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nyxnyxnyx
Indonesia2978 Posts
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Vanesco
United States105 Posts
For someone that wants to hear us talk about poofter, you seem very negligent to talk about him yourself. Looks kinda like trying to throw someone under the bus. | ||
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cakemanofdoom
336 Posts
He talks more about real life than anyone else, as far as I can tell. I don't know why he felt that need, and I think such posts do little but excuse lurking. Then, he mostly posts when people call him out, which sounded defensive to me. He never really volunteered his own reads, and in fact he primarily attacked people who had attacked him (me, Jonny, later July). His latest defense/case against me, I really didn't like. His summary was, "So your end claim is that you think I'm scummy and am a reasonable lynch because I'm being logical, and pointing out your admittedly bad posts and I have talked about rl things early on. I think that line of logic I can't agree with. " which obviously isn't what I said. I thought his posts weren't helpful despite being logical, and I didn't like the thing about Balla that he added to his attack on my bad posts. Seems like he's ignoring my actual points and attacking me like my concessions were the only thing I posted. | ||
onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On November 01 2013 04:43 Balla24 wrote: This is scummy... you said you were going to read up and consider what others are saying yet you did neither.. just pointing this out. Really don't like this. I did reread the thread and read every new post up until I had to leave, but neither changed my mind. I still stand by my vote on e00 based on the fact I knew I wasn't going to be around for the deadline. I didn't simply want to abstain from voting and I felt comfortable leaving it on him. I couldn't possibly account for the discussion that was going to occur around the deadline so I went with the person who I thought was possibly scum at the time and had a chance of actually getting lynched. I'm surprised July got lynched. I knew some people were not happy with his play style, but I thought for sure enough people just chalked that up to bad town play and he wouldn't actually get the majority. I'm caught up on the thread but haven't had a chance to reread it and actually do any sort of analysis. Need to reread the Odin, Johnny, and Balla argument more closely. The end of the night will also give us some new information to work with depending on who the mafia target and if we actually have an SK or not. Unfortunately I work tomorrow morning so I'll be gone for a bit again. I should be around more this weekend though at least during the day time. | ||
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