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No worries, I quoted his text before he edited it. See above. Damn, 1 minute before my time expires.
See you guys in a bit!
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On December 06 2011 05:03 Zephirdd wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2011 04:17 Radfield wrote:On December 06 2011 03:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
Palmar - My initial vote was an attempt to get Palmar to actually play the game with us. He's still yet to share any of his reads, has instead rolefished (yeah I said it) and trolled town for no gain. Now he's convinced our day-vig (presuming OUR day-vig...) to throw away his day-shot on someone who doesn't even look scummy. Worst part? He's absolutely unrepentant in his actions. Palmar is almost confirmed scum at this point, and if we don't lynch him today I'm gonna be pretty shitty. SCUM.
Deez be mah reedz. I want to lynch Palmar. Palmar looks terrible, but I disagree with lynching him today. Palmar could easily flip town right now and I would not be surprised. Looking scummy is a viable way to survive night 1. Palmar is a good player, and has been getting shot night 1 repeatedly lately. If he is still shitting up the thread on Day 2, then yes we lynch him. I DO however agree that his play so far looks a lot like his play in LOTR(where he was third party). On December 06 2011 03:48 Drazerk wrote:
What is wrong with the Palmar / V7 candidates? I strongly disagree with a V7 lynch right now. If you reread the entire scenario, it doesn't look like the actions of a mafia. It looks like the actions of a frustrated townie. Pushing votes on him right now seems smart, because his actions were foolish, but in reality I think voting V7 simply gives mafia an easy place to hide their votes. Not to mention, his reasoning behind shooting soap made sense. At no point in this game is Soap going to step up and prove he is town through his contributions(or at least it seems that way, no offence). That means he is either Scum or a liability. Was it smart to shoot? No. If you are going to shoot as town, was soap a good target? Yes. This and Show nested quote +On December 06 2011 04:51 Palmar wrote:On December 06 2011 04:33 redFF wrote:
palmar are you a day role cop? Lol, I'm not a day anything. The entire thing started when syllogism pointed out an obvious flaw in vaderseven's posting. He claimed to have pasted his notes on radfield directly out of his note-thing, yet when syllo requested v7 gave us the rest of his notes after being pressured by sandroba, he refused, based on it not being formatted or anything. Which seems inconsistent with what v7 said earlier. So, I believed, and still believe v7 doesn't actually have notes on people, I think he made that thing on Radfield up. So I decided to force him to post his notes at gunpoint, mostly because for some reason v7 was refusing to give his notes to syllo. Obviously this had a hilarious rippling effect if v7 was actually a day vig himself  I retracted my claim long before v7 shot. The entire point was an attempt to force v7 to throw together something that could pass for notes very quickly, hoping he'd fuck up, but he claimed being at work, and I compared the time he posted that to the time when he posted his notes on radfield last night, and it is actually consistent with him having not been at work at that time, but being at work now. So I can't directly call him out on anything, but I think his decision to shoot Soap is incredibly rash. This makes me feel it's a bad idea to vote Palmar now. His earlier posts were okay, and I basically get that he was laughing hard at the whole situation that happened today. I'm still unsure about voting V7 over anyone else. Putting myself on his place, it sounds like something I would have done(albeit not on Soap). Doesn't help that Soap hasnt flipped yet. Gah, back to mark zero again. If anything Corrupt is my strongest(1%) scumread at this point, just because of my retarded head and its tendency to see that last response of his as a post made with help of scumbuddies, but that's a nonlogic thought as its huge WIFOM -_- In a sense, Mattchew isn't helping either, but he doesn't look like the red cardboard that came out of a Mountain-only MTG meeting that happened on the middle of China under red lights that he was on XLVII, so I'd say he is a second here, but it isn't any big deal at all. Gah. ##unvote Palmar
How have you contributed more than I have in any way shape or form. You have echo'd others thoughts, wrote long-winded IDK anymore posts, explained rules and terminology, and posted one-liners
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Incoming shitstorm :|
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On December 06 2011 05:15 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2011 05:03 Zephirdd wrote:On December 06 2011 04:17 Radfield wrote:On December 06 2011 03:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
Palmar - My initial vote was an attempt to get Palmar to actually play the game with us. He's still yet to share any of his reads, has instead rolefished (yeah I said it) and trolled town for no gain. Now he's convinced our day-vig (presuming OUR day-vig...) to throw away his day-shot on someone who doesn't even look scummy. Worst part? He's absolutely unrepentant in his actions. Palmar is almost confirmed scum at this point, and if we don't lynch him today I'm gonna be pretty shitty. SCUM.
Deez be mah reedz. I want to lynch Palmar. Palmar looks terrible, but I disagree with lynching him today. Palmar could easily flip town right now and I would not be surprised. Looking scummy is a viable way to survive night 1. Palmar is a good player, and has been getting shot night 1 repeatedly lately. If he is still shitting up the thread on Day 2, then yes we lynch him. I DO however agree that his play so far looks a lot like his play in LOTR(where he was third party). On December 06 2011 03:48 Drazerk wrote:
What is wrong with the Palmar / V7 candidates? I strongly disagree with a V7 lynch right now. If you reread the entire scenario, it doesn't look like the actions of a mafia. It looks like the actions of a frustrated townie. Pushing votes on him right now seems smart, because his actions were foolish, but in reality I think voting V7 simply gives mafia an easy place to hide their votes. Not to mention, his reasoning behind shooting soap made sense. At no point in this game is Soap going to step up and prove he is town through his contributions(or at least it seems that way, no offence). That means he is either Scum or a liability. Was it smart to shoot? No. If you are going to shoot as town, was soap a good target? Yes. This and On December 06 2011 04:51 Palmar wrote:On December 06 2011 04:33 redFF wrote:
palmar are you a day role cop? Lol, I'm not a day anything. The entire thing started when syllogism pointed out an obvious flaw in vaderseven's posting. He claimed to have pasted his notes on radfield directly out of his note-thing, yet when syllo requested v7 gave us the rest of his notes after being pressured by sandroba, he refused, based on it not being formatted or anything. Which seems inconsistent with what v7 said earlier. So, I believed, and still believe v7 doesn't actually have notes on people, I think he made that thing on Radfield up. So I decided to force him to post his notes at gunpoint, mostly because for some reason v7 was refusing to give his notes to syllo. Obviously this had a hilarious rippling effect if v7 was actually a day vig himself I retracted my claim long before v7 shot. The entire point was an attempt to force v7 to throw together something that could pass for notes very quickly, hoping he'd fuck up, but he claimed being at work, and I compared the time he posted that to the time when he posted his notes on radfield last night, and it is actually consistent with him having not been at work at that time, but being at work now. So I can't directly call him out on anything, but I think his decision to shoot Soap is incredibly rash. This makes me feel it's a bad idea to vote Palmar now. His earlier posts were okay, and I basically get that he was laughing hard at the whole situation that happened today. I'm still unsure about voting V7 over anyone else. Putting myself on his place, it sounds like something I would have done(albeit not on Soap). Doesn't help that Soap hasnt flipped yet. Gah, back to mark zero again. If anything Corrupt is my strongest(1%) scumread at this point, just because of my retarded head and its tendency to see that last response of his as a post made with help of scumbuddies, but that's a nonlogic thought as its huge WIFOM -_- In a sense, Mattchew isn't helping either, but he doesn't look like the red cardboard that came out of a Mountain-only MTG meeting that happened on the middle of China under red lights that he was on XLVII, so I'd say he is a second here, but it isn't any big deal at all. Gah. ##unvote Palmar How have you contributed more than I have in any way shape or form. You have echo'd others thoughts, wrote long-winded IDK anymore posts, explained rules and terminology, and posted one-liners
I didn't echo someone's thoughts on Corrupt. Sure I posted after redFF, but that's what I truly believed at the time.
Either way, it's not like you are at any danger of anything at all, why are you worrying so much? I'm just throwing away my thoughts(something that you haven't done), just for the sake of transparency.
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![[image loading]](http://www.foxy-shop.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/HamsterREX_468x3621.jpg) Breaking News!
Soap the Vanilla Townie was assassinated.
+ Show Spoiler +Welcome to Mafia XLVIII!
Your role is: Townie
You have your vote, and your mouth. Use them wisely! You win when all threats to the Town are eliminated.
Day ends in ~8.5 hours.
As a general announcement, I will be using ZBot to count votes on future days (Today's vote will be counted by hand since there are some slight errors at the moment).
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On December 06 2011 05:17 Zephirdd wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2011 05:15 Mattchew wrote:On December 06 2011 05:03 Zephirdd wrote:On December 06 2011 04:17 Radfield wrote:On December 06 2011 03:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
Palmar - My initial vote was an attempt to get Palmar to actually play the game with us. He's still yet to share any of his reads, has instead rolefished (yeah I said it) and trolled town for no gain. Now he's convinced our day-vig (presuming OUR day-vig...) to throw away his day-shot on someone who doesn't even look scummy. Worst part? He's absolutely unrepentant in his actions. Palmar is almost confirmed scum at this point, and if we don't lynch him today I'm gonna be pretty shitty. SCUM.
Deez be mah reedz. I want to lynch Palmar. Palmar looks terrible, but I disagree with lynching him today. Palmar could easily flip town right now and I would not be surprised. Looking scummy is a viable way to survive night 1. Palmar is a good player, and has been getting shot night 1 repeatedly lately. If he is still shitting up the thread on Day 2, then yes we lynch him. I DO however agree that his play so far looks a lot like his play in LOTR(where he was third party). On December 06 2011 03:48 Drazerk wrote:
What is wrong with the Palmar / V7 candidates? I strongly disagree with a V7 lynch right now. If you reread the entire scenario, it doesn't look like the actions of a mafia. It looks like the actions of a frustrated townie. Pushing votes on him right now seems smart, because his actions were foolish, but in reality I think voting V7 simply gives mafia an easy place to hide their votes. Not to mention, his reasoning behind shooting soap made sense. At no point in this game is Soap going to step up and prove he is town through his contributions(or at least it seems that way, no offence). That means he is either Scum or a liability. Was it smart to shoot? No. If you are going to shoot as town, was soap a good target? Yes. This and On December 06 2011 04:51 Palmar wrote:On December 06 2011 04:33 redFF wrote:
palmar are you a day role cop? Lol, I'm not a day anything. The entire thing started when syllogism pointed out an obvious flaw in vaderseven's posting. He claimed to have pasted his notes on radfield directly out of his note-thing, yet when syllo requested v7 gave us the rest of his notes after being pressured by sandroba, he refused, based on it not being formatted or anything. Which seems inconsistent with what v7 said earlier. So, I believed, and still believe v7 doesn't actually have notes on people, I think he made that thing on Radfield up. So I decided to force him to post his notes at gunpoint, mostly because for some reason v7 was refusing to give his notes to syllo. Obviously this had a hilarious rippling effect if v7 was actually a day vig himself I retracted my claim long before v7 shot. The entire point was an attempt to force v7 to throw together something that could pass for notes very quickly, hoping he'd fuck up, but he claimed being at work, and I compared the time he posted that to the time when he posted his notes on radfield last night, and it is actually consistent with him having not been at work at that time, but being at work now. So I can't directly call him out on anything, but I think his decision to shoot Soap is incredibly rash. This makes me feel it's a bad idea to vote Palmar now. His earlier posts were okay, and I basically get that he was laughing hard at the whole situation that happened today. I'm still unsure about voting V7 over anyone else. Putting myself on his place, it sounds like something I would have done(albeit not on Soap). Doesn't help that Soap hasnt flipped yet. Gah, back to mark zero again. If anything Corrupt is my strongest(1%) scumread at this point, just because of my retarded head and its tendency to see that last response of his as a post made with help of scumbuddies, but that's a nonlogic thought as its huge WIFOM -_- In a sense, Mattchew isn't helping either, but he doesn't look like the red cardboard that came out of a Mountain-only MTG meeting that happened on the middle of China under red lights that he was on XLVII, so I'd say he is a second here, but it isn't any big deal at all. Gah. ##unvote Palmar How have you contributed more than I have in any way shape or form. You have echo'd others thoughts, wrote long-winded IDK anymore posts, explained rules and terminology, and posted one-liners I didn't echo someone's thoughts on Corrupt. Sure I posted after redFF, but that's what I truly believed at the time. Either way, it's not like you are at any danger of anything at all, why are you worrying so much? I'm just throwing away my thoughts(something that you haven't done), just for the sake of transparency.
I didn't like your analysis so I critize it. You're post was On December 05 2011 04:54 Zephirdd wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2011 04:48 Risen wrote:On December 05 2011 03:31 Zephirdd wrote:
Because I don't throw votes away without proper thought. I'd rather see what they have for an answer before actually voting on them.
I believe the answer to a question tells me much more than the actual case made over someone. On December 05 2011 03:49 Zephirdd wrote:we aren't playing a game where someone can be hammered Maybe that's why I don't like doing it, my first game was like that, and I raged at people just voting out of nothing(even if I was scum there). Meh, the hell with it. ##Vote CorruptI just realized his nickname is horrible also lol. What? That makes no sense Zephyr. Unless this is a joke, and you're just using this as a placeholder. Context. Simplifying it, redFF convinced me it's not a big deal to throw a vote on someone you find scummy.And I'm not regretting it at this point...
But you never said why you thought he was scummy until you had other's present their cases and you could echo their thoughts. Now you try to calm me down off of you, why?
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Not red but green. Not really surprised (would say the same if he was red) but I am sad.
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+ Show Spoiler +On December 06 2011 05:26 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2011 05:17 Zephirdd wrote:On December 06 2011 05:15 Mattchew wrote:On December 06 2011 05:03 Zephirdd wrote:On December 06 2011 04:17 Radfield wrote:On December 06 2011 03:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
Palmar - My initial vote was an attempt to get Palmar to actually play the game with us. He's still yet to share any of his reads, has instead rolefished (yeah I said it) and trolled town for no gain. Now he's convinced our day-vig (presuming OUR day-vig...) to throw away his day-shot on someone who doesn't even look scummy. Worst part? He's absolutely unrepentant in his actions. Palmar is almost confirmed scum at this point, and if we don't lynch him today I'm gonna be pretty shitty. SCUM.
Deez be mah reedz. I want to lynch Palmar. Palmar looks terrible, but I disagree with lynching him today. Palmar could easily flip town right now and I would not be surprised. Looking scummy is a viable way to survive night 1. Palmar is a good player, and has been getting shot night 1 repeatedly lately. If he is still shitting up the thread on Day 2, then yes we lynch him. I DO however agree that his play so far looks a lot like his play in LOTR(where he was third party). On December 06 2011 03:48 Drazerk wrote:
What is wrong with the Palmar / V7 candidates? I strongly disagree with a V7 lynch right now. If you reread the entire scenario, it doesn't look like the actions of a mafia. It looks like the actions of a frustrated townie. Pushing votes on him right now seems smart, because his actions were foolish, but in reality I think voting V7 simply gives mafia an easy place to hide their votes. Not to mention, his reasoning behind shooting soap made sense. At no point in this game is Soap going to step up and prove he is town through his contributions(or at least it seems that way, no offence). That means he is either Scum or a liability. Was it smart to shoot? No. If you are going to shoot as town, was soap a good target? Yes. This and On December 06 2011 04:51 Palmar wrote:On December 06 2011 04:33 redFF wrote:
palmar are you a day role cop? Lol, I'm not a day anything. The entire thing started when syllogism pointed out an obvious flaw in vaderseven's posting. He claimed to have pasted his notes on radfield directly out of his note-thing, yet when syllo requested v7 gave us the rest of his notes after being pressured by sandroba, he refused, based on it not being formatted or anything. Which seems inconsistent with what v7 said earlier. So, I believed, and still believe v7 doesn't actually have notes on people, I think he made that thing on Radfield up. So I decided to force him to post his notes at gunpoint, mostly because for some reason v7 was refusing to give his notes to syllo. Obviously this had a hilarious rippling effect if v7 was actually a day vig himself I retracted my claim long before v7 shot. The entire point was an attempt to force v7 to throw together something that could pass for notes very quickly, hoping he'd fuck up, but he claimed being at work, and I compared the time he posted that to the time when he posted his notes on radfield last night, and it is actually consistent with him having not been at work at that time, but being at work now. So I can't directly call him out on anything, but I think his decision to shoot Soap is incredibly rash. This makes me feel it's a bad idea to vote Palmar now. His earlier posts were okay, and I basically get that he was laughing hard at the whole situation that happened today. I'm still unsure about voting V7 over anyone else. Putting myself on his place, it sounds like something I would have done(albeit not on Soap). Doesn't help that Soap hasnt flipped yet. Gah, back to mark zero again. If anything Corrupt is my strongest(1%) scumread at this point, just because of my retarded head and its tendency to see that last response of his as a post made with help of scumbuddies, but that's a nonlogic thought as its huge WIFOM -_- In a sense, Mattchew isn't helping either, but he doesn't look like the red cardboard that came out of a Mountain-only MTG meeting that happened on the middle of China under red lights that he was on XLVII, so I'd say he is a second here, but it isn't any big deal at all. Gah. ##unvote Palmar How have you contributed more than I have in any way shape or form. You have echo'd others thoughts, wrote long-winded IDK anymore posts, explained rules and terminology, and posted one-liners I didn't echo someone's thoughts on Corrupt. Sure I posted after redFF, but that's what I truly believed at the time. Either way, it's not like you are at any danger of anything at all, why are you worrying so much? I'm just throwing away my thoughts(something that you haven't done), just for the sake of transparency. I didn't like your analysis so I critize it. You're post was Show nested quote +On December 05 2011 04:54 Zephirdd wrote:On December 05 2011 04:48 Risen wrote:On December 05 2011 03:31 Zephirdd wrote:
Because I don't throw votes away without proper thought. I'd rather see what they have for an answer before actually voting on them.
I believe the answer to a question tells me much more than the actual case made over someone. On December 05 2011 03:49 Zephirdd wrote:we aren't playing a game where someone can be hammered Maybe that's why I don't like doing it, my first game was like that, and I raged at people just voting out of nothing(even if I was scum there). Meh, the hell with it. ##Vote CorruptI just realized his nickname is horrible also lol. What? That makes no sense Zephyr. Unless this is a joke, and you're just using this as a placeholder. Context. Simplifying it, redFF convinced me it's not a big deal to throw a vote on someone you find scummy.And I'm not regretting it at this point... But you never said why you thought he was scummy until you had other's present their cases and you could echo their thoughts. Now you try to calm me down off of you, why?
*sigh*
One thing is voting other thing is having a thought
I had the thought that Corrupt was scummy out of this first post where he goes with "I have many suspects"(or something along these lines). However, I didn't vote on him immediately(and I already explained that before, two times at least). redFF then convinced me that voting on him was not a big deal as I thought he was scummy at the time.
There is nothing wrong with what I have done, at least not in my opinion.
*sigh* and Soap was a VT. Well, at least it was a VT that wasn't contributing a lot.
...I have no idea what that makes out of Vseven tho. Had Soap flipped red, he would at least be confirmed green(as killing 1/6th of your team early would make no sense), but at this point I wonder why did he chose Soap over Corrupt(on who he had a vote over) or Palmar(who was pushing him).
I don't really want to vote Vseven at this point, as he just fired on a reasonable target, but that doesn't clean him IMO.
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On December 06 2011 05:32 vaderseven wrote:
Not red but green. Not really surprised (would say the same if he was red) but I am sad.
Of course you're not surprised. I posted that he played EXACTLY like this last game as town and you still shot him, because you were "afraid" of Palmar.
I can't decide whether you're playing horrible town, or whether Palmar got the exact reaction he wanted out of you and you're mafia. I'm so confused by Palmar's play right now. Use LOGIC people. Hasty decisions and gut reactions are not pro town at all. So fucking stupid.
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EBWOP: I checked because I haven't been as active this game due to sleep/school. Now I'm back, though. I posted an explanation pointing to Soap as town WAY before you killed him. Now if we lynch a town player scum is even more ahead than if we had just sat around with our thumbs up our ass.
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Does anyone have a googledoc with everyone's filter like last game?
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As sick as things get and despite the fact Soap turned to be a Townie,
I'm not going to blame Vaderseven for his deed.. infact, I'm placing my vote on Palmar.
Don't know what have gotten into him, but he seems to be completely insane (in my eyes).
His actions are nothing but a thread to our town.. and I fear for even worse things in the future,
as he seems to easily manipulate even what you call Veterans. I still hardly believe Vaderseven lost his nerves like that, but what happend - happend.
##Vote Palmar
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By the way you have three hours before us Europeans will be locking in for the night so if you have an alternative to Palmar you speak up now. If not change your vote to Palmar
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I'm still trying to grasp where the logical leap from -> soap flips town -> kill palmar happens.
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On December 06 2011 06:04 Palmar wrote:
I'm still trying to grasp where the logical leap from -> soap flips town -> kill palmar happens.
I was still going to be lynching you anyway all it did was prove V7 is a day vigi
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The part where you manipulated a townie (fmpov) into not only wasting his power but also (secondarily) killing a fellow townie. It's scummy. Scum. HANG. Your play today feels EXACTLY like your play from our first game. You're done son.
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wow. you have to be kidding me.
##vote palmar
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On December 06 2011 05:39 Risen wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2011 05:32 vaderseven wrote:
Not red but green. Not really surprised (would say the same if he was red) but I am sad. Of course you're not surprised. I posted that he played EXACTLY like this last game as town and you still shot him, because you were "afraid" of Palmar. I can't decide whether you're playing horrible town, or whether Palmar got the exact reaction he wanted out of you and you're mafia. I'm so confused by Palmar's play right now. Use LOGIC people. Hasty decisions and gut reactions are not pro town at all. So fucking stupid.
Can't find the slightest piece of logic in his last 20 posts.. his "play" seems just unacceptable for me.
It's so confusing as if there's no logic at all... just pure sickness. (or trolling or whatever)
I have no idea what his purpose was with the dayvig thing,
I think it was some sort of a sick coincidence with Vadersevens role.
But again.. really? So sick, could this be planned after all?
Let me know what you think Risen..
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