EPTI can't find any reasons why you should have not voted for me unless you know i am town and therefore scum.
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
I can't find any reasons why you should have not voted for me unless you know i am town and therefore scum. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On November 22 2013 00:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: I could lynch jampidampi. His reasoning for voting for Aquanim is no longer valid unless he debunks Aqua's defense, which he has not done. When he comes back he doesn't update his read on his top scumread, instead he throws some irrational posts on him. ##Vote: Jampidampi I'm not 100% certain on this actually. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=389091&user=jampidampi&view=all This is the only game I have played with jampi. I didnt check the filter, but I remember specifically as town he tunneled the shit out of me even though I was essentially confirmed town. He eventually rage-quit before the game finished. The point is, he has a meta for tunnelling relentlessy, so the above may not be enough to justify a vote. Seems like an easy target rayn as well. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On November 22 2013 00:14 jampidampi wrote: Rayn has some weird things as town in the past, though mostly related to fake claiming (Nuclear Winter for example). Both you and Aquanim need to read more carefully. First of all, I highlighted one post that "didn't say anything with a substance". My point about Aqua is about the motive behind his post, and he seems to continue missunderstanding that. He has yet to refute my actual point, instead trying to make my point appear to be something which it isn't and refuting that. Ok, please spell out for me the issue of motive? If I think the question is fair to ask, is my motive aligned with aqua? ?? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
Him "thinking about the situation" makes zero sense. | ||
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jampidampi
Finland386 Posts
On November 22 2013 00:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: Jampidampi that's a really bad post and there was no townie motivation behind my last 10 posts (towards anyone else than Mocsta - who i should probably realize is incapable to see the point anyways, my bad) because that's what i was trying to do. I can't find any reasons why you should have not voted for me unless you know i am town and therefore scum. Pulling off some sort of ridiculous trap attempt would not be beyound you. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On November 22 2013 00:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: Considering not voting for me by the last 10 posts is townie? Really Mocsta everyone should have instantly put their votes on me based purely on policy until i stop or if don't lynch me. Him "thinking about the situation" makes zero sense. I dunno. I think scum would 100% jump onto a gravy train like that. I could see a town being reserved given some specific criteria are met (and its unclear whether they apply to jampi) | ||
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JarJarDrinks
United States1302 Posts
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On November 22 2013 00:20 jampidampi wrote: Pulling off some sort of ridiculous trap attempt would not be beyound you. What i'm seeing currently is <qt damge control report> Rayn: I am so fucked and gonna get lyched... k, thsi is what we do.. are you listening jampidampi: Roger that Rayn: I am gonna bus you like a mother f #$%#$ jampidampi: OK i will follow your lead If its not clear, this response to rayn feels unnatural and like a dead-statement. What are you achieving with this prod? P.S. your vote is still on aquanim. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On November 22 2013 00:24 JarJarDrinks wrote: I don't like anty lynch aside from Rayn or Rean here. Rayn made his move and got all the votes off Rean. If we switch to someone else, we're letting him dictate the vote. If we move off Rayne, they need to go back to Rean. Unashamed +1 | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
win-win, let's lynch him then. | ||
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
Neither of you needed to blow up there. Go take a break and come back in 2-3 hours please. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
On November 22 2013 00:28 cDgCorazon wrote: If this game is going to turn into a "who has a bigger dick" competition between Mocsta/Rayn and their supporters, we are going to lose. Neither of you needed to blow up there. Go take a break and come back in 2-3 hours please. I don't needa break, i have a clear head. But look at this Corazon. Mocsta was selling people "we can't lynch anyone but Rean you all need to put your votes on him yaddayadda..". There are some people like thrawn who throw out some other arbitary names "i could also lynch this guy but consolidation yadda yadda..". What happens when this is not the case any more? Suddenly people are not wanting to lynch the people they were okay with lynching any more. Mocsta and thrawn both are saying i am scum with Jampidampi. I have my vote on him. Suddenly Jampidampi is not a good lynch any more. Why? Because rayn is scum with him? rofl. I do this kinda shit once in a while. Suddenly all the thread goes silent. Why? Because Rean lynch was comfortable for scum, now the situation is no more comfortable. If thrawn and Mocsta think rayn is scum with Jampidampi why are they not willing to lynch him now? We are both scum (except that i am not), why not lynch jampi then? Oh i was scum with Rean too, but he's off the table too.  I do this shit often as town, i also stop it quite quick. At least Mocsta should be very aware of this even if he doesn't agree it's wise. | ||
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
Basic Vote Count cDgCorazon (0): Aquanim (3): Rean (0): Onegu (1): sciberbia Bereft (0): Mocsta (0): raynpelikoneet (5): thrawn2112, Mocsta. Aquanim, JarJarDrinks, Bereft kampidampi (1): raynpelikoneet No one is currently set to be lynched. 12 players alive means 7 votes to lynch. If you find an error in the vote count, please let us know. Day 1 ends in at 03:00 GMT (+00:00) | ||
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
We were all happily discussing a potential Rean lynch and all of a sudden, you and Mocsta get in this argument and now we have no chance at consolidation. It just derailed town. How do you think we are going to lynch scum if your egos get in the way? | ||
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jampidampi
Finland386 Posts
On November 22 2013 00:18 Mocsta wrote: Ok, please spell out for me the issue of motive? If I think the question is fair to ask, is my motive aligned with aqua? ?? spoilering relevant posts:+ Show Spoiler [my orginal post] + On November 20 2013 18:22 jampidampi wrote: @Sciberbia: My read on Corazon is not conclusive aka null. Slightly on the town side of null. + Show Spoiler + On November 20 2013 12:37 cDgCorazon wrote: I took a shower. Sorry for not wanting to smell bad. Moc, I'm quite concerned that you have already used up >25% of your "self-allotted posts". If you're going to start spamming, it's going to be a problem. Now to my goals/early game statements: 1. I'm not gonna make any meta crap posts. TBH I don't remember anyone's meta and it's ridiculously stupid logic. I'm not going to stand for it and I don't think you guys should either. 2. I'm voting for the scummiest person. My last game was Titanic and it came down to 3-4 days of "X is scum, Y/Z/Q is scum as well". That led the town way off of the path and allowed my scum team the easiest scum win in a very long time. I don't care if they're not on the two lynch trains that are going to form. It's not instant majority so as long as I feel like I'm voting for the scummiest person in my opinion, I'm going to be happy with my vote. 3. I'm going to do my best to not be just an onlooker. I'm gonna try and facilitate discussion and ask a lot of questions instead of just answering questions and throw my ideas out there and just create more chaos. On that note, sciberia needs to stop analyzing the first page so hard and just discuss. We're not going to find scum on the first page. You guys just need to talk instead of being at each other's throats 30 minutes into the game. Don't like this post. Doesn't say anything with a substance. + Show Spoiler + On November 20 2013 13:24 cDgCorazon wrote: He's trying to get us to tunnel each other early so he can just sit around and piggyback on town lynches and point the finger at others. This is demonstrated when he essentially copies my post asking thrawn if he was a mason (deliberately, his post was at least 2-3 minutes after mine) and then decides that he can take my words and twist them when I pressure him about it. This is what troubles me about sciberia right now. Don't understand what he is trying to say with this. If "us" refers to Scib and Cora, how does he come to the conclusion that Scib can "sit around and piggyback on town lynches and point the finger at others" if Scib is tunneling Cora? On one hand Cora could be a townie caught in a emotional tunnel. This falls in line with his tone when directly responding to Scib. On the other hand he could be scum. Reserving judgement until he returns and properly answears Sciberbias case and this post. On November 20 2013 20:01 Aquanim wrote: Well, it looks like Jampidampi has run off without adressing the elephant. I'm not sure whether to be insulted. He'd better offer some more constructive opinions when he gets back, though. @Jampidampi: This reads to me like two quotes demonstrating why you don't like Corazon's play so far. How does that leave you on the town side of null? I think you need to flesh this out some more. On November 21 2013 00:22 jampidampi wrote: Assuming you mean your case on Aquanim. I like it. I especially like how it applies to Aquas play even after the case. ##Vote: Aquanim Here's some more evidnce against Aquanim: This post is odd. It feels like Aqua really wanted to say the first paragraph and inserted the second one to make a post with more substance. If Aqua wanted to address my post with the second pararaph, why wait nearly two hours? Since the motive of this post clearly wasn't to adress my post, it must lie withing the first paragrapgh. The first paragrapgh is just throwing some dirt onto me without stating explicit suspection. The motive behind it is to make me look worse. That, ladies and gentleman, is a scum motive. @LoneMeow: Could be more specific about what makes you think Aqua is town? What do you think about the case on him? If Aquanim would have wanted to address my orginal post, he would have done so. He wouldn't have waited for nearly two hours to do so. He would have posted something like this: On November 20 2013 18:46 Aquanim wrote: @Jampidampi: This reads to me like two quotes demonstrating why you don't like Corazon's play so far. How does that leave you on the town side of null? I think you need to flesh this out some more. Now if you remove that part from the post, we get the lines that reveal the true motive behind it: On November 20 2013 20:01 Aquanim wrote: Well, it looks like Jampidampi has run off without adressing the elephant. I'm not sure whether to be insulted. He'd better offer some more constructive opinions when he gets back, though. To me this reads as him throwing dirt onto me. Combined with the the italized parts: On November 20 2013 20:01 Aquanim wrote: Well, it looks like Jampidampi has run off without adressing the elephant. I'm not sure whether to be insulted. He'd better offer some more constructive opinions when he gets back, though. @Jampidampi: This reads to me like two quotes demonstrating why you don't like Corazon's play so far. How does that leave you on the town side of null? I think you need to flesh this out some more. Which I don't see as something you say to someone you suspect, you get a classical scum making-someone-look-suspicious-without-actually-calling-him-suspicious post. Asking the question isn't the scummy part. | ||
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JarJarDrinks
United States1302 Posts
Jampi is scummy because he didn't jump on a vote for you when you made yourself so lynchable. And Mocs is scummy because he did jump on a vote for you for that exact reason Am I getting that right??? | ||
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Onegu
United States9695 Posts
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On November 22 2013 00:38 cDgCorazon wrote: Why do you think that is the situation at hand?Rayn, you don't need to explain to me how you feel. I can read. We were all happily discussing a potential Rean lynch and all of a sudden, you and Mocsta get in this argument and now we have no chance at consolidation. It just derailed town. How do you think we are going to lynch scum if your egos get in the way? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
sciberbia didn't really try to get Onegu lynched, he diid not try to really convince people into lynching Onegu. I have not tried to really convince people into lynching other people, i have just said i don't think Rean is scum. Noone else has not really tried to push any other lynch, besides Rean. Do you guys really think if i was scum and Rean was scum that's what i would do / allow to happen? Mocsta? thrawn? Like really? If i was scum i could make a quite convincing case on anyone in this game if i wanted. And that is a fact. But i won't, because i am not scum. And i don't think Rean is scum either. If i failed with my stir up the thread then fine, vote for me. When i flip town look closely into Mocsta & thrawn, because then you can take my word for Rean being town. If you want to lynch Rean, fine. Do it. But when he flips town look closely into Mocsta / thrawn, because one of them is scum. If Rean flips scum i admit i am really bad at playing mafia or mafia has to be Lonemeow & Jampidampi and scum just did have no thread precense. In that case we should still lynch Jampidampi. So that's my take on things going on here. Make your best shot. If it's me i don't care. But if that's the case remember what i said. | ||
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