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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
November 21 2013 15:47 GMT
#681
On November 22 2013 00:44 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 00:38 cDgCorazon wrote:
Rayn, you don't need to explain to me how you feel. I can read.

We were all happily discussing a potential Rean lynch and all of a sudden, you and Mocsta get in this argument and now we have no chance at consolidation. It just derailed town. How do you think we are going to lynch scum if your egos get in the way?
Why do you think that is the situation at hand?

Cause you and Rayn now want each other dead. And both of those lunches are stupid.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
November 21 2013 15:47 GMT
#682
On November 22 2013 00:39 JarJarDrinks wrote:
So Rayn,

Jampi is scummy because he didn't jump on a vote for you when you made yourself so lynchable.

And Mocs is scummy because he did jump on a vote for you for that exact reason

Am I getting that right???

No you are not getting that right.
But it's irrelevant.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
November 21 2013 15:47 GMT
#683
On November 22 2013 00:47 cDgCorazon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 00:44 Mocsta wrote:
On November 22 2013 00:38 cDgCorazon wrote:
Rayn, you don't need to explain to me how you feel. I can read.

We were all happily discussing a potential Rean lynch and all of a sudden, you and Mocsta get in this argument and now we have no chance at consolidation. It just derailed town. How do you think we are going to lynch scum if your egos get in the way?
Why do you think that is the situation at hand?

Cause you and Rayn now want each other dead. And both of those lunches are stupid.

I don't want Mocsta dead. Read my last biggish post please.
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Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
November 21 2013 15:49 GMT
#684
On November 22 2013 00:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 00:47 cDgCorazon wrote:
On November 22 2013 00:44 Mocsta wrote:
On November 22 2013 00:38 cDgCorazon wrote:
Rayn, you don't need to explain to me how you feel. I can read.

We were all happily discussing a potential Rean lynch and all of a sudden, you and Mocsta get in this argument and now we have no chance at consolidation. It just derailed town. How do you think we are going to lynch scum if your egos get in the way?
Why do you think that is the situation at hand?

Cause you and Rayn now want each other dead. And both of those lunches are stupid.

I don't want Mocsta dead. Read my last biggish post please.

THEN WHY DID YOU VOTE FOR HIM. Why did you want him dead and then change your mind?
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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 21 2013 15:51 GMT
#685
jampidampi
I see where you are coming from now - I forgot about that exchange.

Ummm.. this may be one of those phrases that does not translate well from verbal -> written communication.
I think that italicized sentence can be taken completely differently depending on how "constructive" is spoken (i.e. tone)

Frankly, if *I* said this to you, your interpretation is 100% correct - as I am often sarcastic/spiteful like that.
Aquanim may have actaully complemented you by saying you having given constructive feedback??? (Im playing NFS: RIvals, so dont feel like checking aqua filter to confirm his stance.. sorry)



As for the second part where he phrases you a question.
I still thiink the question is fair (but as you stated, is not the issue at hand)
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
November 21 2013 15:53 GMT
#686
On November 22 2013 00:49 cDgCorazon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 00:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 22 2013 00:47 cDgCorazon wrote:
On November 22 2013 00:44 Mocsta wrote:
On November 22 2013 00:38 cDgCorazon wrote:
Rayn, you don't need to explain to me how you feel. I can read.

We were all happily discussing a potential Rean lynch and all of a sudden, you and Mocsta get in this argument and now we have no chance at consolidation. It just derailed town. How do you think we are going to lynch scum if your egos get in the way?
Why do you think that is the situation at hand?

Cause you and Rayn now want each other dead. And both of those lunches are stupid.

I don't want Mocsta dead. Read my last biggish post please.

THEN WHY DID YOU VOTE FOR HIM. Why did you want him dead and then change your mind?

Because of what i just said. I don't know his alignment.

But look at what happened. Everyone was happily "discussing things" (while people were not even really discussing anythig relevant). Does that to you look like town is heading to a scum lynch? When noone is opposing the lynch?

Suddenly, when the things are not so clear any more, where is Aquanim now? Where is Bereft? The were living happily ever after with the thread here but where are they now? "yo i put my vote here on rayn and disappear". Is that a townie mindset? To disappear when there actually is something to discuss - besides "let's all put our votes on Rean and hold hands"?
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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 21 2013 15:54 GMT
#687
Its 2am for aquanim , which means its prob lunch time for bereft

OR they could be threading diving.

Grasping here rayn.. majorly.
Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
November 21 2013 15:57 GMT
#688
Rayn vote for Aqua if you are going to call him scum. I've been calling for his head for 24 hours and no one wants to listen to me.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
November 21 2013 15:57 GMT
#689
On November 22 2013 00:54 Mocsta wrote:
Its 2am for aquanim , which means its prob lunch time for bereft

OR they could be threading diving.

Grasping here rayn.. majorly.

And you were perfectly fine with Bereft calling me out when i went to bed 6:30 AM?
Also why do you oppose Jampidampi lynch? I thought we were scumbuddies?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
November 21 2013 16:00 GMT
#690
Your contributions are really weak atm Mocsta. They are all based on some arbitaryscumchat or you are contradicting yourself. You are also too nice overall, and that is worrying me a lot. Given what happened in the last game it's worrying me even more.
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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 21 2013 16:00 GMT
#691
Calling you out is completely different to sugesting scum disappeared from the thread.

Knock it off. I vote for who I want to.

If you are town, you may as well start building ya cases on 3 people. Cos you are flipping in 9 hrs.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 21 2013 16:03 GMT
#692
Question do you want me to post my thoughts as I read or just catch up and give overall thoughts?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
November 21 2013 16:05 GMT
#693
If you are a town leader as you have acted like and think i am the best lynch then fucking convince people of it. If you think Rean is the best lynch convince people of it. You will be held accountable for your actions anyways. thrawn acts like a town leader but when shit gets real he takes the easy way out, and that is bullshit, ecpecially considering the dude claims he can read me. Either he has no clue what he is talking about or he is scum.

I want to lynch Jampidampi because i think he is scum and Rean is not. In case you, Mocsta, think i am scum i suggest you join the wagon because if you lynch me you'll see a town flip and then you are in deep shit because you failed to listen to the town leader you are supposed to be good at reading and you did not lynch "his 100% scumbuddy" you were okay with lynching with before. Same can be said about thrawn.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 21 2013 16:07 GMT
#694
On November 21 2013 09:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 08:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So hey, you might want to explain this Aquanim.
Here you seem to be agreeing with this:
On November 20 2013 12:37 cDgCorazon wrote:
...

2. I'm voting for the scummiest person. My last game was Titanic and it came down to 3-4 days of "X is scum, Y/Z/Q is scum as well". That led the town way off of the path and allowed my scum team the easiest scum win in a very long time. I don't care if they're not on the two lynch trains that are going to form. It's not instant majority so as long as I feel like I'm voting for the scummiest person in my opinion, I'm going to be happy with my vote.

this. If I see one more person go "X/Y/Z is scumteam GG NO RE #MANNERMULES"... (especially when X/Y/Z are each and every one town...)
/rant

Then you proceed on voting for your non-top scumread.
On November 21 2013 08:34 Aquanim wrote:
Once again, my scumread on Rean was of almost equal strength to that which I had on Corazon.

Why the contradiction?

This is the best case in this game.



Because this is terrible rayn, remember how I was talkimg about if rayn believes in his cases or not makes him scum or town. Yeah there is no way rayn believes this. After in WC I didnt vote my top scumread as town, he knows town do this, yes oir reasons are different but aquas reason is believeable as it was less than 12 hours into day 1.
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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 21 2013 16:08 GMT
#695
Im willing to cop flak if you flip town Rayn.

My vote is 80% because are scum, and 20% policy.


Your sudden change in behavior from yesterday has yet to be explained; and in combination with your martyr attempt before. My vote remains.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
November 21 2013 16:10 GMT
#696
I started playing, that's the explanation.
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JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
November 21 2013 16:13 GMT
#697
On November 22 2013 00:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 00:39 JarJarDrinks wrote:
So Rayn,

Jampi is scummy because he didn't jump on a vote for you when you made yourself so lynchable.

And Mocs is scummy because he did jump on a vote for you for that exact reason

Am I getting that right???

No you are not getting that right.
But it's irrelevant.



On November 21 2013 23:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 23:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
7 are needed to vote, and the closest person to 7 is Rean.

There is more information to be gained from a Rean lynch/mislynch than a no-lynch.

Do you honestly think you can say enough people for who-ever your counter wagon is?

If not, the townie thing to do is secure a Rean lynch - whether you like it or not.

On November 21 2013 23:52 Mocsta wrote:
You know what Rayn.

I think we should oblige.

##Unvote
##Vote: Rayn

I knew you would claim scum. <3
I don't even care if you lynch me but i suggest everyone looks at this post when i flip!!!

I just proved you wrong. And you are going against what you suggested ~10min ago.



On November 22 2013 00:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Jampidampi that's a really bad post and there was no townie motivation behind my last 10 posts (towards anyone else than Mocsta - who i should probably realize is incapable to see the point anyways, my bad) because that's what i was trying to do.

I can't find any reasons why you should have not voted for me unless you know i am town and therefore scum.


Explain what I'm misinterpreting please
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
November 21 2013 16:13 GMT
#698
On November 22 2013 01:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I started playing, that's the explanation.

Funny that.

Town when not playing
and scummy when you start playing.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
November 21 2013 16:15 GMT
#699
On November 22 2013 01:13 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 01:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I started playing, that's the explanation.

Funny that.

Town when not playing
and scummy when you start playing.

Yeah in every single game i actually play i am considdered ascummy, it's something you should know.
When i am obv-town i am usually scum. Something you should know too.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
November 21 2013 16:15 GMT
#700
Especially on D1.
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