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Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-19 21:44:31
July 19 2008 21:41 GMT
#6661
Hmm... that analysis is better, but I think it's still interpreting the clues too liberally. For example, on Day 20 Chuiu wrote that Mr. Orange "unloaded several rounds into MasterOfChaos's body", which sounds completely different from MasterOfChaos dying due to KF-inhalation.


However, I just got an idea for Day 20 that I came up with only because of your "cut-off from 911" interpretation.

The clue says, "He made sure all forms of escape were closed off as he made his way to his victim for the night." By doing so, perhaps Mr. Orange is physically cutting his victim off from 911, i.e. his victim cannot run away to the police?

If you agree with this interpretation then we are done: we can establish a link between Mr. Orange and KF91 for EVERY day that Mr. Orange appears!

(In that case, we'll move on to jtan. And now, I will get my much-needed dinner...)
ydg
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States690 Posts
July 19 2008 21:44 GMT
#6662
Day 20 analysis it is!

okay:


Mr. Orange wanted to be a little more cautious but since Mr. Blonde had awoken the neighborhood to his presence he had to act quickly. He made sure all forms of escape were closed off as he made his way to his victim for the night. MasterOfChaos was at his window peering outward when Mr. Orange entered in the room. MasterOfChaos turned quickly around to see Mr. Orange right before he quickly unloaded several rounds into MasterOfChaos's body.

The first things that I see as weird are "He made sure all forms of escape were closed off," "was at his window peering outward" and "turned quickly around to see Mr. Orange right before"
though there are only 4 sentences, haha.

All forms of escape were closed off = strongly relates to the "cutting off" of previous days, although it's not 911. It was this part that made me think of Lysithea.

Window = also made me think of Lysithea, like on a space ship. However, window, glass, fragile objects is a CONSISTENT THEME. Beer bottle, glass shards, fireworks..

turned around quickly to see right before = I have no idea. Maybe this isn't a clue. But it sort of suggests that Orange is kinda quick? Then again, he wanted to be cautious but he had to act quickly. It could sorta be related to cut off from 911, since he didn't even have a chance?

What doesn't make sense is how, if he wanted to act quickly, why did he make sure all exits were sealed off? Also, if he went in and shot him and MasterOfChaos didn't have a chance, why did he want to seal off exits?

Seal off exits. "All forms of escape were closed off." ... "cutting off unsoundlogics house from the rest of the world"

I don't know, honestly.
The only courage that matters is the kind that gets you from one moment to the next.
ydg
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States690 Posts
July 19 2008 21:49 GMT
#6663
I suppose that works though. Again it all depends on this lynch, haha.

Okay recap:

If infundibulum is red (as a target for Blonde), the rest of the Mandalor list is innocent. Lysithea is innocent of Mr. Orange. We turn to non-Mandalor list for Mr. Blue and Mr. Orange. We see jtan as a great candidate for lurker Mr. Blue. We see KF91 as a great candidate for 911-denying Mr. Orange.

If infundibulum is green (as a target for Blonde), then..
It is perhaps 98% chance that CDRdude is lurker Mr. Blue, as someone from Showtime List has to be mafia. Who would be Blonde then? The only other person who relates to these clues is Hotzhot, who is also on the Non-Mandalor list. Leaving one Mafia on the Mandalor list to be sound-proof Mr. Orange -> Lysithea?

Of course, we can debate these if infundibulum is really Mr. Blue, or whatever else.
The only courage that matters is the kind that gets you from one moment to the next.
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
July 19 2008 22:37 GMT
#6664
On July 20 2008 06:44 ydg wrote:
What doesn't make sense is how, if he wanted to act quickly, why did he make sure all exits were sealed off? Also, if he went in and shot him and MasterOfChaos didn't have a chance, why did he want to seal off exits?

That occurred to me, too. I didn't think it was strange enough to be a clue, but if you noticed it as well then it might be a clue after all.

If it is a clue, then I think it is linked to KF91's quote: "That was weird"


I agree with your latest post. The infun = green stuff is much less certain than the infun = red stuff, imo. But I'm not worried about it, because I'm so confident (probably over-confident!) he is Mr. Blonde.

If infunidibulum turns green, Mafia won't have to kill me: I'll kill myself.
Chuiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
3470 Posts
July 20 2008 00:52 GMT
#6665
I'll count up votes and move to night later tonight after I go see the new Batman movie.
♞
Night[Mare
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Mexico4793 Posts
July 20 2008 02:29 GMT
#6666
i was hoping to see hangin t.t
Teamliquidian townie
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
July 20 2008 04:12 GMT
#6667
Awesome. Have fun.

(Reply #6666!)
Chuiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
3470 Posts
July 20 2008 06:30 GMT
#6668
[image loading]
[noClueArea]
How about a magic trick? I'm going to make iNfuNdiBuLuM disappear.

Ta da! He's magically gone.

Everyone who has a special role and chooses to use it please send it to me via PM. Mafia this includes you!
♞
ydg
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States690 Posts
July 20 2008 06:30 GMT
#6669
NICE
SO
FUCKING
NICE


jtan, kf91, here we go.
The only courage that matters is the kind that gets you from one moment to the next.
ydg
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States690 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-20 06:43:01
July 20 2008 06:33 GMT
#6670
qrs
ahrara_
Lysithea
Ninja4ever.
Romance_us
NatsuTerran

iNfuNdiBuLuM
SoMuchBetter

0/7


HotZhot
Dr.Dragoon
CDRdude
Puosu
KF91
Kuja900
KorvspaD
Ziel
jtan
RowdierBob
DTDominion
BuGzlToOnl

2/11


I think town wins?

A problem though. I think infun was the last active mafia, since jtan and kf91, the two prospects for mafia, haven't really been active.

So .. ?
EDIT: Wait, nevermind, KF91 came out of his silence to vote for infun, as his only post in the week! Maybe he's active.
Also, if mafia hits all vets, and they all live, are there clues?
The only courage that matters is the kind that gets you from one moment to the next.
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
July 20 2008 06:41 GMT
#6671
Wow, I'm surprised: iNfuNdiBuLuM disappeared before we could hang him! Almost as if by magic.


THE BELL TOLLS FOR THEE, MAFIA! We know who you are! Surrender now and our magician won't send you to the end of time!
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-20 06:51:27
July 20 2008 06:46 GMT
#6672
On July 20 2008 15:33 ydg wrote:
A problem though. I think infun was the last active mafia, since jtan and kf91, the two prospects for mafia, haven't really been active.

So .. ?
Also, if mafia hits all vets, and they all live, are there clues?

Town has this in the bag. First we lynch KF91, then we lynch jtan, and it's game over.

Currently IMO we should lynch KF91 first, because I feel like we've pretty much tied him down to Mr. Orange 100%. jtan we have yet to finalize, but we should do so before Day 21 because we'll probably be dead by then.

Also, we should make a post summarizing why iNfuNdiBuLuM, KF91, and jtan are Mr. Blonde, Mr. Orange, and Mr. Blue, respectively, then PM all the remaining townspeople and direct them to that post, asking them to vote for KF91 and jtan -- in that order, NO SPLIT VOTING -- based on those clues. Again, this has to be done before Day 21.

Then the game will be all but over.

PS: If the mafia did that then I believe there would be no clues, meaning we wouldn't be able to confirm that iNfuNdiBuLuM = Mr. Blonde. We shouldn't give them any ideas, but at this stage it doesn't really matter.
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-20 07:01:04
July 20 2008 07:00 GMT
#6673
On July 20 2008 15:33 ydg wrote:
EDIT: Wait, nevermind, KF91 came out of his silence to vote for infun, as his only post in the week! Maybe he's active.

I give him a thumbs up for effort. But we're fully confident he's Mr. Orange and him suddenly voting for a mafioso (as opposed to when he voted for nemy, who ended up just 1 vote over bwdero) is not going to deter us.

jtan is also at least semi-active, by the way, since he voted for nemy over bwdero, too.
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
July 20 2008 14:58 GMT
#6674
In my opinion, jtan is the surer lynch. He's been a suspect forever, his voting record does not inspire confidence, and he's the only possibility left that we know of who relates to a lurker. There is virtually no doubt at this point that Mr. Blue is a lurker.

However, you guys have made a pretty good case against KF91 as well.
'As per the American Heart Association, the beat of the Bee Gees song "Stayin' Alive" provides an ideal rhythm in terms of beats per minute to use for hands-only CPR. One can also hum Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust".' —Wikipedia
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
July 20 2008 17:46 GMT
#6675
I would have gotten away with it too, if it wasnt for you meddling kids!
LoL NA: MothLite == Steam: p0nd
Night[Mare
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Mexico4793 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-20 17:57:46
July 20 2008 17:53 GMT
#6676
edit:
[undead howl]

I BLOODY TOLD YOU PAGES AGO THAT HE WAS THE MAFIOSOOOOOO I JUST LINKED HIM INCORRECTLY

[/undead howl]
Teamliquidian townie
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
July 20 2008 18:42 GMT
#6677
On July 21 2008 02:53 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:
edit:
[undead howl]

I BLOODY TOLD YOU PAGES AGO THAT HE WAS THE MAFIOSOOOOOO I JUST LINKED HIM INCORRECTLY

[/undead howl]

But if the mafioso you tried to link him with wasn't really him, it's only a coincidence that he happened to be a different one, no?
'As per the American Heart Association, the beat of the Bee Gees song "Stayin' Alive" provides an ideal rhythm in terms of beats per minute to use for hands-only CPR. One can also hum Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust".' —Wikipedia
jtan
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden5891 Posts
July 20 2008 19:36 GMT
#6678
On July 19 2008 02:10 Bill307 wrote:
After we lynch infun , I suggest we go for jtan next because of the connection with lurkers and Mr. Blue. (And jtan's profile pic shows marines attacking a lurker.)

Furthermore, jtan voted for nemy to be lynched over BWdero ("the nemy list"?).

For what it's worth, he did not vote for any mayor candidate.

I am not mafia

The lurker connection is weak and can be applied to many mafias. Someone suspected me of being eddie based on the sneaky/lurker theme, but he was proved wrong. Plexa claimed he "felt certain" that I was the wolf because of lurker clues, but he was wrong. The lurker-mr blue connection is even weaker and still wrong. Mr blue's clues must point to someone else, please keep checking the other players and I promise you you will find a better connection.

And if you want to use my voting record as an argument, please check it out first

nemY - I was 100% convinced he was mafia because of how he acted in the thread SORRY nemY!
LTT
SpiritoftheTuna
Randombum
Bockit
0cz3c

that is everyone I voted for so far.
Enter a Uh
araav
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Armenia1590 Posts
July 20 2008 19:57 GMT
#6679
goood job town! nice job, Bill and ydg!
The flower that blooms in adversity is the most rare and beautiful of all.
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
July 20 2008 20:23 GMT
#6680
I like how jtan tells us to check the clues against other people instead of doing it himself.

Furthermore, iirc none of those mafia jtan voted for had any serious competition: they were sure to be lynched. Nemy, on the other hand, needed all 3 remaining mafia to vote for him in order to get him lynched over bwdero.


Guys, I think it's time to do one of those clue analyses on jtan = Mr. Blue and finalize it.
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