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seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9777 Posts
December 02 2012 16:58 GMT
#6101
On December 03 2012 01:56 sylverfyre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 01:36 Alaric wrote:
Hey guys, I didn't read anything yet to avoid spoiling myself, are there particular games/series from the LB semi-finals that I should watch before today's matches start?

CLG vs. EU Game 2, definitely.

He means CLG.eu vs WE g2
boomer hands
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 02 2012 16:59 GMT
#6102
Wasn't that the quartfinals? The semi-finals were M5 vs CLG.NA and CLG.EU vs TPA, if memory serves.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-02 17:02:37
December 02 2012 17:02 GMT
#6103
somebody earlier suggested why wickd hasnt picked irelia instead of rumble vs rengar, its because rengar completely rapes her in lane
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-02 17:18:45
December 02 2012 17:11 GMT
#6104
I don't understand how people can consider Chauster almost on par with the best jungler. If there is something that set appart the top junglers, like Diamond, from others, is the fact that top junglers invade / dive / claim objectiv at every opportunities, things that I rarely see from any NA or EU jungler (aside Diamond). The first game between M5 and AZB for exemple was almost won by Diamond killing Hellios at his read lvl 3.
Ganking bot and cleaning wards is not what makes a top tier jungler.
I consider that jungling is the main reason Asian teams are better than others, their junglers put so much pressure in the first 20 min.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
December 02 2012 17:38 GMT
#6105
On December 03 2012 02:11 WhiteDog wrote:
I don't understand how people can consider Chauster almost on par with the best jungler. If there is something that set appart the top junglers, like Diamond, from others, is the fact that top junglers invade / dive / claim objectiv at every opportunities, things that I rarely see from any NA or EU jungler (aside Diamond). The first game between M5 and AZB for exemple was almost won by Diamond killing Hellios at his read lvl 3.
Ganking bot and cleaning wards is not what makes a top tier jungler.
I consider that jungling is the main reason Asian teams are better than others, their junglers put so much pressure in the first 20 min.


Chauster had a very good game in game 1 against Moscow 5, doing all the things you mentioned. He was repeatedly diving with Maokai and getting the kills. He performed OK in the next two games also, but you can't save every lane.
Zero fighting.
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
December 02 2012 17:46 GMT
#6106
On December 03 2012 02:38 Jaksiel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 02:11 WhiteDog wrote:
I don't understand how people can consider Chauster almost on par with the best jungler. If there is something that set appart the top junglers, like Diamond, from others, is the fact that top junglers invade / dive / claim objectiv at every opportunities, things that I rarely see from any NA or EU jungler (aside Diamond). The first game between M5 and AZB for exemple was almost won by Diamond killing Hellios at his read lvl 3.
Ganking bot and cleaning wards is not what makes a top tier jungler.
I consider that jungling is the main reason Asian teams are better than others, their junglers put so much pressure in the first 20 min.


Chauster had a very good game in game 1 against Moscow 5, doing all the things you mentioned. He was repeatedly diving with Maokai and getting the kills. He performed OK in the next two games also, but you can't save every lane.

You cant do 'okay' vs M5 and expect to win, I was seriously disappointed that his jungle seemed to have lost his UMPH after he did so well the first game, they coulda won ;--; alas, there were other factors in the next 2 games not including Chauster's jungle that contributed to their defeat
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
December 02 2012 17:48 GMT
#6107
Game start in 10 minutes right? Where is the HYPE for Fnatic vs WE?
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Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
December 02 2012 17:50 GMT
#6108
On December 03 2012 02:48 HazMat wrote:
Game start in 10 minutes right? Where is the HYPE for Fnatic vs WE?

Hope the game will start soon. Its almost 2AM for me and I have to wake up at 7.30 tomorrow...FML
Terran
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
December 02 2012 17:51 GMT
#6109
On December 03 2012 02:48 HazMat wrote:
Game start in 10 minutes right? Where is the HYPE for Fnatic vs WE?


And M5 vs. TPA at the same time. This tournament has made me very thankful for having two monitors available.
Zero fighting.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
December 02 2012 17:52 GMT
#6110
"wakeup" like you're going to sleep :D
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-02 18:02:00
December 02 2012 18:01 GMT
#6111
On December 03 2012 01:50 Tula wrote:
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On December 03 2012 01:19 NeoIllusions wrote:
On December 03 2012 01:07 Tula wrote:
On December 03 2012 00:00 Jaksiel wrote:
On December 02 2012 23:55 AsnSensation wrote:
On December 02 2012 23:48 Caphe wrote:
On December 02 2012 22:28 WhiteDog wrote:
M5 won !!!! I left after the 2nd game, crushed by this 10-0 in favor of AZB. CLG.eu out but I guess losing vs TPA is not something you should be ashamed of.
It's funny how M5 evolved since their first appearance. At first I hated them because they were so cocky, like CLG.na but winning games, but now they are super manner, always smiling, and still winning some.
IPL 5 is showing that EU teams can compete against Asian teams.

Yep, EU is definately strong, even before this or the S2 Finals. NA on the other hand still far away from Asian level. TSM is terrible at this IPL5, CLG.NA fair a bit better but honestly they got the easiest group, beating a hugely overrated Fear and Iceland doesnt mean that much.

All in all, I think WE has the best shot for the champion spot since staying in winner brackets give WE a huge advantage, they play less games than anyone coming from Loser brackets thus less chance of burnout, also the 2 games advantage in the final is gonna be huge.


this just made me realize how clg.na didnt have the chance to play against one of the stronger asian teams, wonder if it would have been a stomp or if they could have held their own like clg.eu, fnatic and M5 did.

Froggen's early game build on Anivia was totally WTH and Bebe with the Farmpants, 438 cs in 40minutes as ad carry wtf.


Yeah. There was no excuse for CLG.EU losing that game after the way it started. That was depressing as a CLG fan.

Frankly I was DEEPLY unimpressed by wickeds rumble. How he could pick that champion twice in a row and get wrecked so hard both times boggles my mind.

Froggens game 2 build was weird as well, and frankly I don't think it paid off, but what truly killed them was Snoopeh and Wicked derping around the top tower in game 3.

Out of interest, is there any lane that rumble can actually win? Because so far I have only seen him loose in convincing fashion. It's also a very stupid pick if you consider that TPA's best player is usually bebe, so a dive champion to shut him down at least in the mid game would be fairly standard.

Hard weekend to be a CLG fan, they had a chance against WE and TPA but lost both, so in the end nothing is left.


Rumble wins a shit ton of lanes, it's just Wickd is notoriously bad at AP bruisers/Top picks. His Rumble this week is actually a vast improvement over his previous performances. And don't even suggest Vlad to him, zz.

Possible, but so far I haven't seen Rumble win anything (honestly I've hardly seen Rumble picked aside from Wicked, and he lost all 3 games i can remember on him, once at MLG and now these two).

Really shaking my head about why he picks him, when he is so strong on Irelia, Malphite or Olaf.

The only reason Wickd learned Rumble was he did so when Rumble was crazy-powerful just after his Flamespitter (Q) was bugfixed so it ended up doing massive damage. And since Rumble was so good, rather than having to constantly waste bans on a champion they knew was OP but couldn't play they made him learn it so at the very least they could FP him if it wasn't banned. He still has a fundamental problem playing AP Champions (which hurts CLG.eu massively).

When Froggen wants to play Lee Sin mid or CLG.eu want to run double AP, it falls upon Wickd to play Rumble because it's the only thing he can do. It's like a cheap plaster CLG.eu has stuck onto their drafting problems that never really heals the problem but they don't do anything about either.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
shinarit
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary900 Posts
December 02 2012 18:01 GMT
#6112
On December 03 2012 02:51 Jaksiel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 02:48 HazMat wrote:
Game start in 10 minutes right? Where is the HYPE for Fnatic vs WE?


And M5 vs. TPA at the same time. This tournament has made me very thankful for having two monitors available.


Why do they do this? We have 4 to go, why do they have to make them parallel? Also, after yesterday, im afraid of casters :S
T for BoxeR, Z for IdrA, P because i have no self-respect
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
December 02 2012 18:02 GMT
#6113
On December 03 2012 02:48 HazMat wrote:
Game start in 10 minutes right? Where is the HYPE for Fnatic vs WE?

Too busy standing behind TPA
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Vlanitak
Profile Joined November 2009
Norway3045 Posts
December 02 2012 18:02 GMT
#6114
On December 03 2012 02:48 HazMat wrote:
Game start in 10 minutes right? Where is the HYPE for Fnatic vs WE?

hype? Hype? HYPE?!? Hype doesnt even begin to describe how I get to see my old favorite team Fnatic play against the team I currently consider the strongest, and named rightfully, in the world! Rekkles vs WeiXiao, CaoMei vs Cyanide, xPeke vs Misaya! You do not even know!
The only way I would have been more hyped was if it was WeiXiao vs Doublelift in an orgy of glorious games
washed
Eplekjekk
Profile Joined March 2008
Norway40 Posts
December 02 2012 18:04 GMT
#6115
I haven't been able to watch too many of the broadcasts live, but I've noticed that there have been some team and player spotlights. Does anyone know if I can find these spotlights separately, perhaps on a youtube channel?
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14060 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-02 18:07:51
December 02 2012 18:05 GMT
#6116
Welcome to the league of draven.

It was a really good idea for them to bring voice actors to ipl5 and have them annouce the teams.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
December 02 2012 18:06 GMT
#6117
The VA needs to stop repeating the same line. It becomes tiresome after the 5th "Who wants a piece of the champ?" He needs to start ad-libbing some context-specific lines instead.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
December 02 2012 18:11 GMT
#6118
FZZF BLITZCRANK GOT THROUGH
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
December 02 2012 18:11 GMT
#6119
first pick blitz for WE!
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-02 18:13:22
December 02 2012 18:11 GMT
#6120
Gonna watch M5 vs TPA, but haven't watched any Fnatic game at this tourney I really want to see how they fare against the might WE. I would love to see an upset from Fnatic though!! Fnatic go go go
EDIT: Time to consume some serious coffee!
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