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LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
July 01 2013 02:36 GMT
#6041
On July 01 2013 11:34 Whatson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 11:33 Plansix wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:32 Whatson wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:30 bo1b wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:29 LighT. wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:26 lichter wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:24 LighT. wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:05 Tanzklaue wrote:
On July 01 2013 10:56 SoFrOsTy wrote:
There weren't a lot of good Kespa players at MLG. Hyun was Kespa literally until he switched to SC 2. But Flash wasn't there, CJHero wasn't there, Parting, Rain, Bisu, Jangbi, Stork, Fantasy, Hyvaa, Innovation, S2, True, Cure, Jaehoon, Terminator, Baby, Zest, sOs, Free, or Soulkey... sooo This not relevant to elephant

actually, it is very relevant, because the article said even lesser kespa players would crush the competition.

what happened in the end was that the kespa players here got beaten up by foreigners and koreans that don't even really affiliate with eSF, or easier said: people that are not mainly competing in korea.

add to that that most of the kespa pros are not really better than the good eSF players.

It is very true that the portion about "any SPL player immediately dominating the competition" has been proven false. You'd have to be a moron to still be arguing that. What is true is that the top-tier of SPL crop are a level above the rest of the competition Perhaps I'm a homer but Innovation, Soulkey, Flash, Rain..I firmly believe they're a level above anyone in GSTL that isnt named Life, and Life's been struggling lately (but small sample size).



Mvp

This thread is now about Mvp

[image loading]

Too small of a sample size to say anything about Mvp, IMO.
All he's done is 2 games off of Innovation, which is pretty nice but...too small of a sample size.

I hurd flash and sos lost just recently... huehuehuehuehue, kespa << foreigners < esf

But Life lost to Sjow! Therefore Foreigners > ESF > KESPA

Oh wait foreigners are shit...

Nani'wa is Korean after all.

He won this past MLG then, right, over all those middle/top tier koreans?

Y U SO CONFUSE??
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 01 2013 02:36 GMT
#6042
On July 01 2013 11:32 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 11:31 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:30 lichter wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:29 Whatson wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:22 opterown wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:20 edgeOut wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:18 Plansix wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:17 edgeOut wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:15 Plansix wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:12 edgeOut wrote:
[quote]

Just like biggest eSF prodigy Life losing to lower tier foreigners Sjow, shit happens.

Life, I remember him. Didn't he beat some top teir korean terran? I can't remember.

Oh yeah.

Sjow > Flash!!!!!!!


Yeah, Foreigners are so good. They can enjoy that rare win for their whole life.

Korean fanboys are good, at losing the worst.

What does "losing the worst" mean?

i hazard a guess at him meaning that korean fanboys are the most sore losers? but he worded it quite badly

Understandable, I mean, they win so much they probably forgot what losing felt like


I heard they get put to Kespa Jail when they lose

They get locked in a cell with TurN

who all is in kespa jail now? Turn, Stork, Dear, Stats, soO... ?


Stephano used to be in Kespa Jail but they let him out because he promised to retire and never return to Korea

Ok I got the list from that thread
According to Dodgin
- everyone who matchfixed
- that guy who beat his wife
- turn
- the real stork

as well as Whiplash for making fat jokes, JYP for this tweet, and now Stats, Dear, and soO for placing lower than a foreigner at MLG
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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
July 01 2013 02:37 GMT
#6043
On July 01 2013 11:36 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 11:34 LighT. wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:30 bo1b wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:29 LighT. wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:26 lichter wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:24 LighT. wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:05 Tanzklaue wrote:
On July 01 2013 10:56 SoFrOsTy wrote:
There weren't a lot of good Kespa players at MLG. Hyun was Kespa literally until he switched to SC 2. But Flash wasn't there, CJHero wasn't there, Parting, Rain, Bisu, Jangbi, Stork, Fantasy, Hyvaa, Innovation, S2, True, Cure, Jaehoon, Terminator, Baby, Zest, sOs, Free, or Soulkey... sooo This not relevant to elephant

actually, it is very relevant, because the article said even lesser kespa players would crush the competition.

what happened in the end was that the kespa players here got beaten up by foreigners and koreans that don't even really affiliate with eSF, or easier said: people that are not mainly competing in korea.

add to that that most of the kespa pros are not really better than the good eSF players.

It is very true that the portion about "any SPL player immediately dominating the competition" has been proven false. You'd have to be a moron to still be arguing that. What is true is that the top-tier of SPL crop are a level above the rest of the competition Perhaps I'm a homer but Innovation, Soulkey, Flash, Rain..I firmly believe they're a level above anyone in GSTL that isnt named Life, and Life's been struggling lately (but small sample size).



Mvp

This thread is now about Mvp

[image loading]

Too small of a sample size to say anything about Mvp, IMO.
All he's done is 2 games off of Innovation, which is pretty nice but...too small of a sample size.

I hurd flash and sos lost just recently... huehuehuehuehue, kespa << foreigners < esf

I still dont like the whole Kespa/esf references.
eSF refers to Startale, LG-IM, MVP, Prime, NsHoseo and (Axiom??)
Azubu is their only little thing, EG-TL is their own little thing and so is Quantic
Kespa is just a big governing body and nothing much more than that

Why cant we just call them GSTL/SPL players so we can include everyone :<...


I dunno I just consider them all players of their respective teams

Of which IM and Woongjin are the best

Startale are assholes

Why do you hate startale? that emotion could be better spent loving fxo :D
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
July 01 2013 02:37 GMT
#6044
On July 01 2013 11:36 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 11:34 LighT. wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:30 bo1b wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:29 LighT. wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:26 lichter wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:24 LighT. wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:05 Tanzklaue wrote:
On July 01 2013 10:56 SoFrOsTy wrote:
There weren't a lot of good Kespa players at MLG. Hyun was Kespa literally until he switched to SC 2. But Flash wasn't there, CJHero wasn't there, Parting, Rain, Bisu, Jangbi, Stork, Fantasy, Hyvaa, Innovation, S2, True, Cure, Jaehoon, Terminator, Baby, Zest, sOs, Free, or Soulkey... sooo This not relevant to elephant

actually, it is very relevant, because the article said even lesser kespa players would crush the competition.

what happened in the end was that the kespa players here got beaten up by foreigners and koreans that don't even really affiliate with eSF, or easier said: people that are not mainly competing in korea.

add to that that most of the kespa pros are not really better than the good eSF players.

It is very true that the portion about "any SPL player immediately dominating the competition" has been proven false. You'd have to be a moron to still be arguing that. What is true is that the top-tier of SPL crop are a level above the rest of the competition Perhaps I'm a homer but Innovation, Soulkey, Flash, Rain..I firmly believe they're a level above anyone in GSTL that isnt named Life, and Life's been struggling lately (but small sample size).



Mvp

This thread is now about Mvp

[image loading]

Too small of a sample size to say anything about Mvp, IMO.
All he's done is 2 games off of Innovation, which is pretty nice but...too small of a sample size.

I hurd flash and sos lost just recently... huehuehuehuehue, kespa << foreigners < esf

I still dont like the whole Kespa/esf references.
eSF refers to Startale, LG-IM, MVP, Prime, NsHoseo and (Axiom??)
Azubu is their only little thing, EG-TL is their own little thing and so is Quantic
Kespa is just a big governing body and nothing much more than that

Why cant we just call them GSTL/SPL players so we can include everyone :<...


I dunno I just consider them all players of their respective teams

Of which IM and KT* are the best

Startale are assholes

Corrected it for you. Typos happen so totally understandable
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
July 01 2013 02:38 GMT
#6045
INTRIGUE NOT A GIRL

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=253321

I think
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-01 02:40:16
July 01 2013 02:39 GMT
#6046
On July 01 2013 11:36 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 11:32 lichter wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:31 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:30 lichter wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:29 Whatson wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:22 opterown wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:20 edgeOut wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:18 Plansix wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:17 edgeOut wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:15 Plansix wrote:
[quote]
Life, I remember him. Didn't he beat some top teir korean terran? I can't remember.

Oh yeah.

Sjow > Flash!!!!!!!


Yeah, Foreigners are so good. They can enjoy that rare win for their whole life.

Korean fanboys are good, at losing the worst.

What does "losing the worst" mean?

i hazard a guess at him meaning that korean fanboys are the most sore losers? but he worded it quite badly

Understandable, I mean, they win so much they probably forgot what losing felt like


I heard they get put to Kespa Jail when they lose

They get locked in a cell with TurN

who all is in kespa jail now? Turn, Stork, Dear, Stats, soO... ?


Stephano used to be in Kespa Jail but they let him out because he promised to retire and never return to Korea

Ok I got the list from that thread
According to Dodgin
Show nested quote +
- everyone who matchfixed
- that guy who beat his wife
- turn
- the real stork

as well as Whiplash for making fat jokes, JYP for this tweet, and now Stats, Dear, and soO for placing lower than a foreigner at MLG


We need a Kespa Jail thread so we can keep track of everyone that's in Kespa Jail

On July 01 2013 11:37 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 11:36 lichter wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:34 LighT. wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:30 bo1b wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:29 LighT. wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:26 lichter wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:24 LighT. wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:05 Tanzklaue wrote:
On July 01 2013 10:56 SoFrOsTy wrote:
There weren't a lot of good Kespa players at MLG. Hyun was Kespa literally until he switched to SC 2. But Flash wasn't there, CJHero wasn't there, Parting, Rain, Bisu, Jangbi, Stork, Fantasy, Hyvaa, Innovation, S2, True, Cure, Jaehoon, Terminator, Baby, Zest, sOs, Free, or Soulkey... sooo This not relevant to elephant

actually, it is very relevant, because the article said even lesser kespa players would crush the competition.

what happened in the end was that the kespa players here got beaten up by foreigners and koreans that don't even really affiliate with eSF, or easier said: people that are not mainly competing in korea.

add to that that most of the kespa pros are not really better than the good eSF players.

It is very true that the portion about "any SPL player immediately dominating the competition" has been proven false. You'd have to be a moron to still be arguing that. What is true is that the top-tier of SPL crop are a level above the rest of the competition Perhaps I'm a homer but Innovation, Soulkey, Flash, Rain..I firmly believe they're a level above anyone in GSTL that isnt named Life, and Life's been struggling lately (but small sample size).



Mvp

This thread is now about Mvp

[image loading]

Too small of a sample size to say anything about Mvp, IMO.
All he's done is 2 games off of Innovation, which is pretty nice but...too small of a sample size.

I hurd flash and sos lost just recently... huehuehuehuehue, kespa << foreigners < esf

I still dont like the whole Kespa/esf references.
eSF refers to Startale, LG-IM, MVP, Prime, NsHoseo and (Axiom??)
Azubu is their only little thing, EG-TL is their own little thing and so is Quantic
Kespa is just a big governing body and nothing much more than that

Why cant we just call them GSTL/SPL players so we can include everyone :<...


I dunno I just consider them all players of their respective teams

Of which IM and Woongjin are the best

Startale are assholes

Why do you hate startale? that emotion could be better spent loving fxo :D


Because Startale are jerks

(I am trying my best to elevate IM vs ST to KT vs SKT proportions but it isn't working. ST are still assholes though)

The only FXO player I like is sC. and TheBest but only if he promises to always play terrible

By the way we need a Esf Jail too
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
July 01 2013 02:39 GMT
#6047
On July 01 2013 11:37 LighT. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 11:36 lichter wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:34 LighT. wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:30 bo1b wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:29 LighT. wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:26 lichter wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:24 LighT. wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:05 Tanzklaue wrote:
On July 01 2013 10:56 SoFrOsTy wrote:
There weren't a lot of good Kespa players at MLG. Hyun was Kespa literally until he switched to SC 2. But Flash wasn't there, CJHero wasn't there, Parting, Rain, Bisu, Jangbi, Stork, Fantasy, Hyvaa, Innovation, S2, True, Cure, Jaehoon, Terminator, Baby, Zest, sOs, Free, or Soulkey... sooo This not relevant to elephant

actually, it is very relevant, because the article said even lesser kespa players would crush the competition.

what happened in the end was that the kespa players here got beaten up by foreigners and koreans that don't even really affiliate with eSF, or easier said: people that are not mainly competing in korea.

add to that that most of the kespa pros are not really better than the good eSF players.

It is very true that the portion about "any SPL player immediately dominating the competition" has been proven false. You'd have to be a moron to still be arguing that. What is true is that the top-tier of SPL crop are a level above the rest of the competition Perhaps I'm a homer but Innovation, Soulkey, Flash, Rain..I firmly believe they're a level above anyone in GSTL that isnt named Life, and Life's been struggling lately (but small sample size).



Mvp

This thread is now about Mvp

[image loading]

Too small of a sample size to say anything about Mvp, IMO.
All he's done is 2 games off of Innovation, which is pretty nice but...too small of a sample size.

I hurd flash and sos lost just recently... huehuehuehuehue, kespa << foreigners < esf

I still dont like the whole Kespa/esf references.
eSF refers to Startale, LG-IM, MVP, Prime, NsHoseo and (Axiom??)
Azubu is their only little thing, EG-TL is their own little thing and so is Quantic
Kespa is just a big governing body and nothing much more than that

Why cant we just call them GSTL/SPL players so we can include everyone :<...


I dunno I just consider them all players of their respective teams

Of which FXO* and EG-TL* are the best

Startale are assholes

Corrected it for you. Typos happen so totally understandable

Amazing how you also managed to get it wrong.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 01 2013 02:40 GMT
#6048
On July 01 2013 11:39 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 11:36 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:32 lichter wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:31 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:30 lichter wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:29 Whatson wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:22 opterown wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:20 edgeOut wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:18 Plansix wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:17 edgeOut wrote:
[quote]

Yeah, Foreigners are so good. They can enjoy that rare win for their whole life.

Korean fanboys are good, at losing the worst.

What does "losing the worst" mean?

i hazard a guess at him meaning that korean fanboys are the most sore losers? but he worded it quite badly

Understandable, I mean, they win so much they probably forgot what losing felt like


I heard they get put to Kespa Jail when they lose

They get locked in a cell with TurN

who all is in kespa jail now? Turn, Stork, Dear, Stats, soO... ?


Stephano used to be in Kespa Jail but they let him out because he promised to retire and never return to Korea

Ok I got the list from that thread
According to Dodgin
- everyone who matchfixed
- that guy who beat his wife
- turn
- the real stork

as well as Whiplash for making fat jokes, JYP for this tweet, and now Stats, Dear, and soO for placing lower than a foreigner at MLG


We need a Kespa Jail thread so we can keep track of everyone that's in Kespa Jail

Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 11:37 bo1b wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:36 lichter wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:34 LighT. wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:30 bo1b wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:29 LighT. wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:26 lichter wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:24 LighT. wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:05 Tanzklaue wrote:
On July 01 2013 10:56 SoFrOsTy wrote:
There weren't a lot of good Kespa players at MLG. Hyun was Kespa literally until he switched to SC 2. But Flash wasn't there, CJHero wasn't there, Parting, Rain, Bisu, Jangbi, Stork, Fantasy, Hyvaa, Innovation, S2, True, Cure, Jaehoon, Terminator, Baby, Zest, sOs, Free, or Soulkey... sooo This not relevant to elephant

actually, it is very relevant, because the article said even lesser kespa players would crush the competition.

what happened in the end was that the kespa players here got beaten up by foreigners and koreans that don't even really affiliate with eSF, or easier said: people that are not mainly competing in korea.

add to that that most of the kespa pros are not really better than the good eSF players.

It is very true that the portion about "any SPL player immediately dominating the competition" has been proven false. You'd have to be a moron to still be arguing that. What is true is that the top-tier of SPL crop are a level above the rest of the competition Perhaps I'm a homer but Innovation, Soulkey, Flash, Rain..I firmly believe they're a level above anyone in GSTL that isnt named Life, and Life's been struggling lately (but small sample size).



Mvp

This thread is now about Mvp

[image loading]

Too small of a sample size to say anything about Mvp, IMO.
All he's done is 2 games off of Innovation, which is pretty nice but...too small of a sample size.

I hurd flash and sos lost just recently... huehuehuehuehue, kespa << foreigners < esf

I still dont like the whole Kespa/esf references.
eSF refers to Startale, LG-IM, MVP, Prime, NsHoseo and (Axiom??)
Azubu is their only little thing, EG-TL is their own little thing and so is Quantic
Kespa is just a big governing body and nothing much more than that

Why cant we just call them GSTL/SPL players so we can include everyone :<...


I dunno I just consider them all players of their respective teams

Of which IM and Woongjin are the best

Startale are assholes

Why do you hate startale? that emotion could be better spent loving fxo :D


Because Startale are jerks

(I am trying my best to elevate IM vs ST to KT vs SKT proportions but it isn't working. ST are still assholes though)

The only FXO player I like is sC. and TheBest but only if he promises to always play terrible

By the way we need a Esf Jail too

We should make it in TL+ so plebs cant see
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NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-01 02:42:02
July 01 2013 02:40 GMT
#6049
Gotta love how an opinion on how things were in 2011 is still taken so seriously


Would suggest someone watching a few vods from may 2011, even the best sc2 players in the world looked like trash with countless mistakes, sloppy micro and weak macro.
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
July 01 2013 02:40 GMT
#6050
On July 01 2013 11:39 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 11:36 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:32 lichter wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:31 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:30 lichter wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:29 Whatson wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:22 opterown wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:20 edgeOut wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:18 Plansix wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:17 edgeOut wrote:
[quote]

Yeah, Foreigners are so good. They can enjoy that rare win for their whole life.

Korean fanboys are good, at losing the worst.

What does "losing the worst" mean?

i hazard a guess at him meaning that korean fanboys are the most sore losers? but he worded it quite badly

Understandable, I mean, they win so much they probably forgot what losing felt like


I heard they get put to Kespa Jail when they lose

They get locked in a cell with TurN

who all is in kespa jail now? Turn, Stork, Dear, Stats, soO... ?


Stephano used to be in Kespa Jail but they let him out because he promised to retire and never return to Korea

Ok I got the list from that thread
According to Dodgin
- everyone who matchfixed
- that guy who beat his wife
- turn
- the real stork

as well as Whiplash for making fat jokes, JYP for this tweet, and now Stats, Dear, and soO for placing lower than a foreigner at MLG


We need a Kespa Jail thread so we can keep track of everyone that's in Kespa Jail

Stats would likely have to endure the punishment of a korean BBQ by the KT house where they all eat in front of him and he's unable to have any. :<!
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
July 01 2013 02:40 GMT
#6051
On July 01 2013 11:38 lichter wrote:
INTRIGUE NOT A GIRL

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=253321

I think


Also his music isn't very good
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
theMagus
Profile Joined February 2013
578 Posts
July 01 2013 02:42 GMT
#6052
On July 01 2013 11:38 lichter wrote:
INTRIGUE NOT A GIRL

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=253321

I think


lol now i'm just confused.
"Give away the stone. Let the oceans take and transmutate this cold and fated anchor. Let the waters kiss and transmutate these leaden grudges into gold. Let go."
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 01 2013 02:42 GMT
#6053
On July 01 2013 11:40 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 11:38 lichter wrote:
INTRIGUE NOT A GIRL

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=253321

I think


Also his music isn't very good

BOOM! SHOTS FIRED!!!!
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July 01 2013 02:43 GMT
#6054
On July 01 2013 11:40 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 11:39 lichter wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:36 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:32 lichter wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:31 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:30 lichter wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:29 Whatson wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:22 opterown wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:20 edgeOut wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:18 Plansix wrote:
[quote]
Korean fanboys are good, at losing the worst.

What does "losing the worst" mean?

i hazard a guess at him meaning that korean fanboys are the most sore losers? but he worded it quite badly

Understandable, I mean, they win so much they probably forgot what losing felt like


I heard they get put to Kespa Jail when they lose

They get locked in a cell with TurN

who all is in kespa jail now? Turn, Stork, Dear, Stats, soO... ?


Stephano used to be in Kespa Jail but they let him out because he promised to retire and never return to Korea

Ok I got the list from that thread
According to Dodgin
- everyone who matchfixed
- that guy who beat his wife
- turn
- the real stork

as well as Whiplash for making fat jokes, JYP for this tweet, and now Stats, Dear, and soO for placing lower than a foreigner at MLG


We need a Kespa Jail thread so we can keep track of everyone that's in Kespa Jail

On July 01 2013 11:37 bo1b wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:36 lichter wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:34 LighT. wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:30 bo1b wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:29 LighT. wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:26 lichter wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:24 LighT. wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:05 Tanzklaue wrote:
[quote]
actually, it is very relevant, because the article said even lesser kespa players would crush the competition.

what happened in the end was that the kespa players here got beaten up by foreigners and koreans that don't even really affiliate with eSF, or easier said: people that are not mainly competing in korea.

add to that that most of the kespa pros are not really better than the good eSF players.

It is very true that the portion about "any SPL player immediately dominating the competition" has been proven false. You'd have to be a moron to still be arguing that. What is true is that the top-tier of SPL crop are a level above the rest of the competition Perhaps I'm a homer but Innovation, Soulkey, Flash, Rain..I firmly believe they're a level above anyone in GSTL that isnt named Life, and Life's been struggling lately (but small sample size).



Mvp

This thread is now about Mvp

[image loading]

Too small of a sample size to say anything about Mvp, IMO.
All he's done is 2 games off of Innovation, which is pretty nice but...too small of a sample size.

I hurd flash and sos lost just recently... huehuehuehuehue, kespa << foreigners < esf

I still dont like the whole Kespa/esf references.
eSF refers to Startale, LG-IM, MVP, Prime, NsHoseo and (Axiom??)
Azubu is their only little thing, EG-TL is their own little thing and so is Quantic
Kespa is just a big governing body and nothing much more than that

Why cant we just call them GSTL/SPL players so we can include everyone :<...


I dunno I just consider them all players of their respective teams

Of which IM and Woongjin are the best

Startale are assholes

Why do you hate startale? that emotion could be better spent loving fxo :D


Because Startale are jerks

(I am trying my best to elevate IM vs ST to KT vs SKT proportions but it isn't working. ST are still assholes though)

The only FXO player I like is sC. and TheBest but only if he promises to always play terrible

By the way we need a Esf Jail too

We should make it in TL+ so plebs cant see


On it
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Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
July 01 2013 02:43 GMT
#6055
On July 01 2013 11:40 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 11:39 lichter wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:36 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:32 lichter wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:31 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:30 lichter wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:29 Whatson wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:22 opterown wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:20 edgeOut wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:18 Plansix wrote:
[quote]
Korean fanboys are good, at losing the worst.

What does "losing the worst" mean?

i hazard a guess at him meaning that korean fanboys are the most sore losers? but he worded it quite badly

Understandable, I mean, they win so much they probably forgot what losing felt like


I heard they get put to Kespa Jail when they lose

They get locked in a cell with TurN

who all is in kespa jail now? Turn, Stork, Dear, Stats, soO... ?


Stephano used to be in Kespa Jail but they let him out because he promised to retire and never return to Korea

Ok I got the list from that thread
According to Dodgin
- everyone who matchfixed
- that guy who beat his wife
- turn
- the real stork

as well as Whiplash for making fat jokes, JYP for this tweet, and now Stats, Dear, and soO for placing lower than a foreigner at MLG


We need a Kespa Jail thread so we can keep track of everyone that's in Kespa Jail

On July 01 2013 11:37 bo1b wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:36 lichter wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:34 LighT. wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:30 bo1b wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:29 LighT. wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:26 lichter wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:24 LighT. wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:05 Tanzklaue wrote:
[quote]
actually, it is very relevant, because the article said even lesser kespa players would crush the competition.

what happened in the end was that the kespa players here got beaten up by foreigners and koreans that don't even really affiliate with eSF, or easier said: people that are not mainly competing in korea.

add to that that most of the kespa pros are not really better than the good eSF players.

It is very true that the portion about "any SPL player immediately dominating the competition" has been proven false. You'd have to be a moron to still be arguing that. What is true is that the top-tier of SPL crop are a level above the rest of the competition Perhaps I'm a homer but Innovation, Soulkey, Flash, Rain..I firmly believe they're a level above anyone in GSTL that isnt named Life, and Life's been struggling lately (but small sample size).



Mvp

This thread is now about Mvp

[image loading]

Too small of a sample size to say anything about Mvp, IMO.
All he's done is 2 games off of Innovation, which is pretty nice but...too small of a sample size.

I hurd flash and sos lost just recently... huehuehuehuehue, kespa << foreigners < esf

I still dont like the whole Kespa/esf references.
eSF refers to Startale, LG-IM, MVP, Prime, NsHoseo and (Axiom??)
Azubu is their only little thing, EG-TL is their own little thing and so is Quantic
Kespa is just a big governing body and nothing much more than that

Why cant we just call them GSTL/SPL players so we can include everyone :<...


I dunno I just consider them all players of their respective teams

Of which IM and Woongjin are the best

Startale are assholes

Why do you hate startale? that emotion could be better spent loving fxo :D


Because Startale are jerks

(I am trying my best to elevate IM vs ST to KT vs SKT proportions but it isn't working. ST are still assholes though)

The only FXO player I like is sC. and TheBest but only if he promises to always play terrible

By the way we need a Esf Jail too

We should make it in TL+ so plebs cant see

This will be all solved very easily with a GSTL/SPL merger.
KT vs SKT (battle of the telecoms)
Samsung Khan vs LG-IM (Battle of the electronic giants)
EG-TL vs Startale (Battle of the energy drinks so for every win, they take that big gulp from their respective drinks and show it off)
MVP vs CJ (LoL rivalry translated into Sc2!)
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
July 01 2013 02:44 GMT
#6056
On July 01 2013 11:43 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 11:40 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:39 lichter wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:36 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:32 lichter wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:31 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:30 lichter wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:29 Whatson wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:22 opterown wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:20 edgeOut wrote:
[quote]
What does "losing the worst" mean?

i hazard a guess at him meaning that korean fanboys are the most sore losers? but he worded it quite badly

Understandable, I mean, they win so much they probably forgot what losing felt like


I heard they get put to Kespa Jail when they lose

They get locked in a cell with TurN

who all is in kespa jail now? Turn, Stork, Dear, Stats, soO... ?


Stephano used to be in Kespa Jail but they let him out because he promised to retire and never return to Korea

Ok I got the list from that thread
According to Dodgin
- everyone who matchfixed
- that guy who beat his wife
- turn
- the real stork

as well as Whiplash for making fat jokes, JYP for this tweet, and now Stats, Dear, and soO for placing lower than a foreigner at MLG


We need a Kespa Jail thread so we can keep track of everyone that's in Kespa Jail

On July 01 2013 11:37 bo1b wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:36 lichter wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:34 LighT. wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:30 bo1b wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:29 LighT. wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:26 lichter wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:24 LighT. wrote:
[quote]
It is very true that the portion about "any SPL player immediately dominating the competition" has been proven false. You'd have to be a moron to still be arguing that. What is true is that the top-tier of SPL crop are a level above the rest of the competition Perhaps I'm a homer but Innovation, Soulkey, Flash, Rain..I firmly believe they're a level above anyone in GSTL that isnt named Life, and Life's been struggling lately (but small sample size).



Mvp

This thread is now about Mvp

[image loading]

Too small of a sample size to say anything about Mvp, IMO.
All he's done is 2 games off of Innovation, which is pretty nice but...too small of a sample size.

I hurd flash and sos lost just recently... huehuehuehuehue, kespa << foreigners < esf

I still dont like the whole Kespa/esf references.
eSF refers to Startale, LG-IM, MVP, Prime, NsHoseo and (Axiom??)
Azubu is their only little thing, EG-TL is their own little thing and so is Quantic
Kespa is just a big governing body and nothing much more than that

Why cant we just call them GSTL/SPL players so we can include everyone :<...


I dunno I just consider them all players of their respective teams

Of which IM and Woongjin are the best

Startale are assholes

Why do you hate startale? that emotion could be better spent loving fxo :D


Because Startale are jerks

(I am trying my best to elevate IM vs ST to KT vs SKT proportions but it isn't working. ST are still assholes though)

The only FXO player I like is sC. and TheBest but only if he promises to always play terrible

By the way we need a Esf Jail too

We should make it in TL+ so plebs cant see


On it

Someone should totally buy me TL+ .
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Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 01 2013 02:44 GMT
#6057
On July 01 2013 11:43 LighT. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 11:40 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:39 lichter wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:36 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:32 lichter wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:31 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:30 lichter wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:29 Whatson wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:22 opterown wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:20 edgeOut wrote:
[quote]
What does "losing the worst" mean?

i hazard a guess at him meaning that korean fanboys are the most sore losers? but he worded it quite badly

Understandable, I mean, they win so much they probably forgot what losing felt like


I heard they get put to Kespa Jail when they lose

They get locked in a cell with TurN

who all is in kespa jail now? Turn, Stork, Dear, Stats, soO... ?


Stephano used to be in Kespa Jail but they let him out because he promised to retire and never return to Korea

Ok I got the list from that thread
According to Dodgin
- everyone who matchfixed
- that guy who beat his wife
- turn
- the real stork

as well as Whiplash for making fat jokes, JYP for this tweet, and now Stats, Dear, and soO for placing lower than a foreigner at MLG


We need a Kespa Jail thread so we can keep track of everyone that's in Kespa Jail

On July 01 2013 11:37 bo1b wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:36 lichter wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:34 LighT. wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:30 bo1b wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:29 LighT. wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:26 lichter wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:24 LighT. wrote:
[quote]
It is very true that the portion about "any SPL player immediately dominating the competition" has been proven false. You'd have to be a moron to still be arguing that. What is true is that the top-tier of SPL crop are a level above the rest of the competition Perhaps I'm a homer but Innovation, Soulkey, Flash, Rain..I firmly believe they're a level above anyone in GSTL that isnt named Life, and Life's been struggling lately (but small sample size).



Mvp

This thread is now about Mvp

[image loading]

Too small of a sample size to say anything about Mvp, IMO.
All he's done is 2 games off of Innovation, which is pretty nice but...too small of a sample size.

I hurd flash and sos lost just recently... huehuehuehuehue, kespa << foreigners < esf

I still dont like the whole Kespa/esf references.
eSF refers to Startale, LG-IM, MVP, Prime, NsHoseo and (Axiom??)
Azubu is their only little thing, EG-TL is their own little thing and so is Quantic
Kespa is just a big governing body and nothing much more than that

Why cant we just call them GSTL/SPL players so we can include everyone :<...


I dunno I just consider them all players of their respective teams

Of which IM and Woongjin are the best

Startale are assholes

Why do you hate startale? that emotion could be better spent loving fxo :D


Because Startale are jerks

(I am trying my best to elevate IM vs ST to KT vs SKT proportions but it isn't working. ST are still assholes though)

The only FXO player I like is sC. and TheBest but only if he promises to always play terrible

By the way we need a Esf Jail too

We should make it in TL+ so plebs cant see

This will be all solved very easily with a GSTL/SPL merger.
KT vs SKT (battle of the telecoms)
Samsung Khan vs LG-IM (Battle of the electronic giants)
EG-TL vs Startale (Battle of the energy drinks so for every win, they take that big gulp from their respective drinks and show it off)
MVP vs CJ (LoL rivalry translated into Sc2!)

haha that would be pretty cool indeed
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Profile Joined October 2010
United States1173 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-01 02:47:32
July 01 2013 02:45 GMT
#6058
I'm sorry, but did KeSPA already lose? Oh, that's right. WCS 2013 isn't even over yet. In fact, we've only reached the second season of WCS. Does not having your A-team players get a top 3 sweep at MLG count as a loss? Is that what you're saying? Because if you're saying that I can assure you that you're wrong. Why would you make this topic when the game is still on? KeSPA are still playing OSL right now and they have been the best team in the WCS Korea for how many months now? They're playing some of the worst players in the eSF who just happen to have a lead because they're feeding off the energy of playing in a foreign tournament. But you know what? They still fucking suck. KeSPA players are some of the best fucking players in the SC2 eSports scene, they won the last 2 GSLs and would of won Dreamhack if Jaedong hadn't choked. Maybe you should shut the fuck up before you make retarded topics like this. You know why? Because you're going to be embarrassed when KeSPA sweeps the WCS World Finals at Blizzcon and someone bumps this topic. Oh look at that, Life just got knocked out of OSL Ro32 when he really needed a win, just like Leenock did. Are you a fucking drunk? Are you retarded? Are you autistic? You are a fucking idiot and you should never make a topic on this board again and I'm fucking serious. I almost have a feeling you're the only guy making all these anti-KeSPA posts because you're a faggot hater who doesn't like them because they're faceless, personality-less players who are really damned good. Fuck you, be good at something in YOUR life and then maybe try to troll these fucking fanbases on the board, like I give a fuck. It's so easy to spot out your posts now, you're a retard. Always doing stupid shit like this. Why don't you try to be a good poster? Just for once? For once in your fucking life try not to make a topic like this. That's just you, you're always right at getting it wrong. Fuck you. You are nothing.

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United States97276 Posts
July 01 2013 02:45 GMT
#6059
On July 01 2013 11:44 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 11:43 LighT. wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:40 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:39 lichter wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:36 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:32 lichter wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:31 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:30 lichter wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:29 Whatson wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:22 opterown wrote:
[quote]
i hazard a guess at him meaning that korean fanboys are the most sore losers? but he worded it quite badly

Understandable, I mean, they win so much they probably forgot what losing felt like


I heard they get put to Kespa Jail when they lose

They get locked in a cell with TurN

who all is in kespa jail now? Turn, Stork, Dear, Stats, soO... ?


Stephano used to be in Kespa Jail but they let him out because he promised to retire and never return to Korea

Ok I got the list from that thread
According to Dodgin
- everyone who matchfixed
- that guy who beat his wife
- turn
- the real stork

as well as Whiplash for making fat jokes, JYP for this tweet, and now Stats, Dear, and soO for placing lower than a foreigner at MLG


We need a Kespa Jail thread so we can keep track of everyone that's in Kespa Jail

On July 01 2013 11:37 bo1b wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:36 lichter wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:34 LighT. wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:30 bo1b wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:29 LighT. wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:26 lichter wrote:
[quote]

Mvp

This thread is now about Mvp

[image loading]

Too small of a sample size to say anything about Mvp, IMO.
All he's done is 2 games off of Innovation, which is pretty nice but...too small of a sample size.

I hurd flash and sos lost just recently... huehuehuehuehue, kespa << foreigners < esf

I still dont like the whole Kespa/esf references.
eSF refers to Startale, LG-IM, MVP, Prime, NsHoseo and (Axiom??)
Azubu is their only little thing, EG-TL is their own little thing and so is Quantic
Kespa is just a big governing body and nothing much more than that

Why cant we just call them GSTL/SPL players so we can include everyone :<...


I dunno I just consider them all players of their respective teams

Of which IM and Woongjin are the best

Startale are assholes

Why do you hate startale? that emotion could be better spent loving fxo :D


Because Startale are jerks

(I am trying my best to elevate IM vs ST to KT vs SKT proportions but it isn't working. ST are still assholes though)

The only FXO player I like is sC. and TheBest but only if he promises to always play terrible

By the way we need a Esf Jail too

We should make it in TL+ so plebs cant see

This will be all solved very easily with a GSTL/SPL merger.
KT vs SKT (battle of the telecoms)
Samsung Khan vs LG-IM (Battle of the electronic giants)
EG-TL vs Startale (Battle of the energy drinks so for every win, they take that big gulp from their respective drinks and show it off)
MVP vs CJ (LoL rivalry translated into Sc2!)

haha that would be pretty cool indeed

Slayers vs woongjin battle of Ryu won oh wait
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July 01 2013 02:46 GMT
#6060
On July 01 2013 11:45 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 11:44 opterown wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:43 LighT. wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:40 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:39 lichter wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:36 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:32 lichter wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:31 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:30 lichter wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:29 Whatson wrote:
[quote]
Understandable, I mean, they win so much they probably forgot what losing felt like


I heard they get put to Kespa Jail when they lose

They get locked in a cell with TurN

who all is in kespa jail now? Turn, Stork, Dear, Stats, soO... ?


Stephano used to be in Kespa Jail but they let him out because he promised to retire and never return to Korea

Ok I got the list from that thread
According to Dodgin
- everyone who matchfixed
- that guy who beat his wife
- turn
- the real stork

as well as Whiplash for making fat jokes, JYP for this tweet, and now Stats, Dear, and soO for placing lower than a foreigner at MLG


We need a Kespa Jail thread so we can keep track of everyone that's in Kespa Jail

On July 01 2013 11:37 bo1b wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:36 lichter wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:34 LighT. wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:30 bo1b wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:29 LighT. wrote:
[quote]
Too small of a sample size to say anything about Mvp, IMO.
All he's done is 2 games off of Innovation, which is pretty nice but...too small of a sample size.

I hurd flash and sos lost just recently... huehuehuehuehue, kespa << foreigners < esf

I still dont like the whole Kespa/esf references.
eSF refers to Startale, LG-IM, MVP, Prime, NsHoseo and (Axiom??)
Azubu is their only little thing, EG-TL is their own little thing and so is Quantic
Kespa is just a big governing body and nothing much more than that

Why cant we just call them GSTL/SPL players so we can include everyone :<...


I dunno I just consider them all players of their respective teams

Of which IM and Woongjin are the best

Startale are assholes

Why do you hate startale? that emotion could be better spent loving fxo :D


Because Startale are jerks

(I am trying my best to elevate IM vs ST to KT vs SKT proportions but it isn't working. ST are still assholes though)

The only FXO player I like is sC. and TheBest but only if he promises to always play terrible

By the way we need a Esf Jail too

We should make it in TL+ so plebs cant see

This will be all solved very easily with a GSTL/SPL merger.
KT vs SKT (battle of the telecoms)
Samsung Khan vs LG-IM (Battle of the electronic giants)
EG-TL vs Startale (Battle of the energy drinks so for every win, they take that big gulp from their respective drinks and show it off)
MVP vs CJ (LoL rivalry translated into Sc2!)

haha that would be pretty cool indeed

Slayers vs woongjin battle of Ryu won oh wait


Ohh burn

fist bump woongjin bro
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