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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
On May 28 2012 22:45 Toadesstern wrote: My bad, I saw someone ask about scum, and you saying "that´s easy: SS". I never called him scum. I said that Kenpachi thinks he's scum. I called him weird so far.  On May 28 2012 22:46 Toadesstern wrote: This is what I don´t get about your play, you are not a confirmed Townie until whoever you mason with flips town. Until then you could be a lyncher trying to win quickly, or scum trying to mess up the first two days. Claiming Mason out of the blue does nothing to confirm your towniness, at least not today. Instead of claiming you could have tried running for Mayor in a normal way, instead you claimed for no real reason, and will now probably get shot in the night. Claiming increases the risk of you getting shot but doesn´t boost your chances of becoming Mayor, so why did you claim? and not to mention: I just can't be scum. I'm either town (duh...) or a lyncher. Either way I'm going to die early because I am either a confirmed townie and you failed to vote a modconfirmed townie or I'm a lyncher who can't produce a mason result. | ||
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
On May 28 2012 23:08 Toadesstern wrote: Told you I'm the most awesome of all the masons. And it's not even the funny secret I kept to myself :p I wanna know more about your role. Can you mason one player each night and you lose this masonbuddy the next night? If you're roleblocked you can still chose one or only talk to someone you chose before. clarify please. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
See you in 3 hours again. | ||
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
On May 28 2012 23:13 Toadesstern wrote: I´ll accept that for now. If there are hidden mechanics involved with your role that might explain your play, but it doesn´t confirm you. can't tell, don't want the guy to be shot. Also forumites conclusion on when or why I can or can not be confirmed is completly wrong for not obvious reasons but it's wrong. See you in 3 hours again. | ||
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
On May 28 2012 23:04 Toadesstern wrote: I'd actually rather vote forumite into an office than ET right now. Of course I still want to lynch d1 myself because I'm awesome but there's a bunch of people saying it's dangerous: Thanks, but I prefer not taking a town leader position, not that I´m a likely candidate in the first place. On that note; You are suspicious of ET, what do you think about Wiggles? Have you thought of a good D1-lynch yet? | ||
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GambitX32
United States10 Posts
Regarding EchTee: was going to vote for him and haven't gotten strong enough reasoning to shift it away. Regarding Wiggles: has been very clear, logical, and concise; pro-town posting so far. Regarding VE & M_Z: have been pressuring and looking for suspicious posting; pro-town so far. Regarding SnB: I understand why some see his posts as scummy, but when I read them they sounded like newer player posting. He may be suspicious, but I'm not convinced he's scum. If he doesn't return to the thread before the day ends, then that will make him more suspicious though. Regarding Kitaman: He has seemed a little "odd" to use a previously used term; I don't agree with his support for Toad, but I'm not reading him as also being explicitly "scummy". Regarding Sines: I understand that from what you and BH have said, you have a lot of emotion and reason for frustration. But as BH has admitted, grush appears to be trying to be more useful. It is highly dangerous to suggest that lynching someone for past instance and who at this point hasn't proven scummy is better than letting them live --- this kind of lynch you are pushing would hurt us; we should lynch scummy behavior not past bad behavior. Until a player starts aggressively spamming scummy distraction/nonsense, do not suggest they are more harmful alive than dead. Ironically, I believe so far Sines has been more harmful than grush. @Mattchew, Hassybaby, Alderan, Cwave, MidnightGladius, Stofu, FirmTofu, meeple, kenpachi: I hope it was just Memorial Day Weekend and RedBull Battlegrounds delaying people: so for those who haven't yet, when you do, please catch up and let us know who and why you are voting, and if someone looks town or scummy to you. | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
On May 28 2012 18:34 Zealos wrote: Right so, here are my thoughts: SnB - He's seemed "Fishy" this game so far, and I would be happy to FoS him, however, I don't think there is enough there to say it is a good lynch. I'd like to see him post more thoughts though. Thoughts on Mayor: If possible, would the best mayor be the one that chooses the day1 lynch based off of a vote from town? Seems like this would be the most pro-town play? Pardoner: Whoever agree's not to use the power ever seems to be the best bet. Yes, in some select scenario's it might be good to use it, but that seems to just be giving an excuse to any mafia player that could convince people that make him pardoner to use the power. Now some of my reads: Toad - Seems to be very town provided he can prove it using his "mason" powers. If not, we can lynch him tomorrow. BE - Leaning on town. His arguments earlier were annoying, but nothing that led me to think he's scum. Hyaah - ???? Lurker, could well be scum, want to hear what he has to say about the game so far. If I were to kill someone now: Sinesis - Been said before, but he's tunnelling very hard and doesn't seem willing to add anything to conversation except kill Grush. Who are your other scumreads? Who are you voting for as mayor and why? I'd also like to note - I'm pretty lurky Day1 atm, I'm pretty busy, however, I'll have finished my last exam come midway through day2, and will become a lot more active then. I like how this guy associates day 1 lurking to "could well be scum" (Hyaach). He also calls himself a bit lurky on day 1. PRETTY hypocritical. i feel hes just saying whatever he wants. The language is odd entirely in this post so lets look back into his posts. On May 27 2012 18:28 Zealos wrote: Hi guys, I'm a vanilla townie, and I'm gonna try not to get too emotionally attached when I play this game, to avoid cluttering. copycat! didnt even copy in flayvor (Arrsling) ... thats it. fuck i cant call him scum but ill still bring it to the front stage | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
I like wiggles. He's putting a strong effort into the game and so far and I like his initiatives. | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
On May 29 2012 01:11 Mattchew wrote: kenpachi, i have never seen you try this hard before.. whats up? ??????????????????????????? | ||
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papapanda
Taiwan326 Posts
But by the looks of it, this is not going to happen, so... Of the leading two presidential candidates, I think MrWiggles have a stronger platform as of now; He clearly stated his lynch candidates. EchelonTee, can you state a few of your potential lynch target as well? I know you said that you will base your lynch on what the majority of town says, and that is great; but I feel like that is almost like putting off the blame in case of a mislynch. Imo it will greatly boost you town-credibility if you can pump out a few of your own reads. Anyhow I will decide who to vote based on your response. Regarding Toad(once again): For everyone: What is the best method now to pick the next mason? I am thinking letting Toad play out his cards by himself might be the next best option, as he seem to have some withheld information. The other choice is for the town to decide someone for him to invite, but this increases some randomness and can be potentially affect by mafia. Toad, thought? | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On May 29 2012 00:00 Forumite wrote: Thanks, but I prefer not taking a town leader position, not that I´m a likely candidate in the first place. On that note; You are suspicious of ET, what do you think about Wiggles? Have you thought of a good D1-lynch yet? I'd probably lynch Kita right now. ET is highly suspicious because of the sheer amounts of nulls he's giving. There's not a single reason to believe this guy is town because everything he said is some crap like "I will listen to newbies and won't flame". That's basicly his whole filter and while that's nothing special and as mentioned a null, the sheer masses of those nulls make me wonder why he's talking like that instead of actually doing something. It's not a good read at all but I find him suspicious and I find the fact that everybody agrees that he's the best candidate because he said he'll lynch whoever town wants to lynch (read: he's not accountable for the lynch) and because he said he's trying to get a nice townatmosphere. Wiggles is kinda hard to tell. I'd say he's somewhere between null and townread but nowhere near my strong town reads yet. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On May 29 2012 01:40 papapanda wrote: Regarding Toad(once again): For everyone: What is the best method now to pick the next mason? I am thinking letting Toad play out his cards by himself might be the next best option, as he seem to have some withheld information. The other choice is for the town to decide someone for him to invite, but this increases some randomness and can be potentially affect by mafia. Toad, thought? I will not listen to anyone suggesting a target becaue if I do mafia justs shoots him => I can not confirm my mason role and I am in trouble. I'm thinking of rnd-ing it. Also there's another mason in this game and he needs to shut the fuck up. | ||
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Hyaach
Singapore1737 Posts
His stand not as clear as Mr Wiggles and most are null/fluff. Filler post to seem like his doing something. And yet he has got a huge crowd behind him. I guess everyone has their own reads. | ||
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grush57
Korea (South)2582 Posts
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
I like supersofts idea lol ##vote Forumite | ||
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Mr. Wiggles
Canada5894 Posts
On May 28 2012 17:58 VisceraEyes wrote: Why would SnB, as newish scum, want to call apologize to me, a player who hasn't expressed any kind of problem with his posts or paid him any attention, at the same time as he's apologizing to BH, a player he's gotten into an argument with in the thread? Here's why I ask. As scum, for me, it seems much easier to simply pacify the source of the attention rather than call further attention to myself by apologizing to another player who hasn't even commented on the offending posts. It seems...too careless, you know? I don't think he's a good lynch really. It's true that his content is lacking, but from what I can see he seems genuinely interested in what's best for town. I think he apologized to you because he mentioned you at the same time as BH in this post: + Show Spoiler + On May 27 2012 13:46 strongandbig wrote: 1. Out of the mayoral candidates so far, I like ET. It's hard for me to encapsulate why, but it kind of has to do with the idea of taking things seriously. I feel like BH and VE are hard to read because they troll half the time and spam a lot. That doesn't mean ET is easy to read by any means, but I feel like his posts are more likely to be able to be subjected to ordinary analysis rather than gut reads. (In case it isn't obvious, I think it's important to be able to hold the mayor at least somewhat accountable, and that means you have to be able to analyze their posts in a serious way.) 2. That segues well into why you should vote for me for vice leader! I take things seriously and am easy to subject to analysis. I don't mean "hey I'm always transparent because I suck at scum"; people running for things always say that. What I mean is that when I post I'll do my best to include my reasons and background, and you all can do your best to tear them apart or find corroboration. So, why am I running for vice leader/pardoner? Well, last game I played was my first time being a blue role, and it was really fun; I want to try something new this game as well. Last thing: my platform for vice leader. The vice leader's only power is to nullify a lynch once per game. I'm not gonna say "I'll only use the pardon if town wants me to" because that would be retarded since town voted for the lynch. What I will say is that if I ever use the pardon, I'll announce that I'm considering pardoning the person loooong before the lynch happens and I'll discuss it fully. There's a 90% chance that I won't use the pardon at all during the game, because in general flips on suspicious players tend to be pretty helpful for town. The only case where I use the pardon would be one where I'm very sure of my town read on someone, and where there are at least a few other people who think I'm making sense. So, vote for me! BH reacted very strongly to what he said, so it makes sense to me that he'd want to preemptively apologize to you before you began to draw more attention to him again. You say that apologizing to you as well draws attention to himself before you even commented, but by apologizing all he has to do is make one post, and that's it. If instead he didn't apologize, there's the chance that you decide to comment, and then there will be both yourself and him involved, and he wouldn't be able to solve it so quickly. Apologizing then and drawing a little attention means that he avoids potentially drawing a lot of attention later on. That's how I see it. ET, right now it looks like either yourself or I am going to be the mayor. Who are you planning to lynch if you're elected? Like I said, lynch target/reads is one of the things I'm basing who I'm voting for on. You haven't mentioned what you're thinking though. It would be nice if we have some kind of idea of what you're thinking about the lynch before the deadline. Also, some people have commented on either thinking that sinensis or strongandbig aren't the best lynch for today. However, between the two, who do you think is the better lynch? If you don't think either of them are good lynches, who do you think is? This is your chance to get your thoughts out in the thread and let us know what you think. Also, try to give reasons too, not just a name. | ||
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