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On May 05 2011 10:12 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2011 10:02 KillerSOS wrote:On May 05 2011 09:57 Mig wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On May 05 2011 09:50 VarpuliS wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2011 09:45 KillerSOS wrote:
chaoser
He has been sitting back after his initial strong posts. I think he knew he brought suspicion on himself with his original long posts. I know he is a long time player and he seems to be careful to not be in the front of any debate. If I had to vote for anyone I would vote for him atm.
Chaoser has been very pro-town in his posting across the board. Being super-vocal day 1 is a sure way to get killed night one. It's the players who haven't posted any real content that we have to worry about. I agree with varpulis here. And I would add I think it would be a pretty huge mistake to vote for chaoser on day1, unless we had some really damning evidence. He was one of the best players in the last TL mafia. It would be too big of a risk to potentially lose one of our best players unless we were very sure. I'm not saying I am going to vote for him, just saying to me he has had the largest jumps in posting history and it show'd up on my nooby radar. This may be due to real life commitments, it's impossible to tell. Please don't misrepresent me lol. TL Mafia XXXIX 44 69 73 90 102 121 140 203 208 211 226 242 246 267 283 284 291 295 297 310 312 341 342 345 349 350 351 362 368 452 467 I feel like my posting has been pretty consistent. I had a final from 4 to 6 today that I already mentioned and aside from those 2 hours + time I spent previous to get to the test room and go over the material with friends, there has been no "jump". I have a 84 post "jump". There are players who have way larger "jumps". Get your facts straight buddy. That being said, I have no qualms with anyone bringing a good, well thought-out argument and discussion to me about my play an alignment. It's very important to not get complacent with trusting one guy and depending on one leader.
We are thinking of a different type of "jump", my bad.
When I was saying jump I was more thinking the length and thoroughness of said posts. Although this most recent post that I am quoting turns the trend around!
I also think it is important to not group behind one player just because he knows how to play with the most skill. Note that I am not saying you just listen to anything I'm saying...
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On May 05 2011 10:12 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2011 10:02 KillerSOS wrote:On May 05 2011 09:57 Mig wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On May 05 2011 09:50 VarpuliS wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2011 09:45 KillerSOS wrote:
chaoser
He has been sitting back after his initial strong posts. I think he knew he brought suspicion on himself with his original long posts. I know he is a long time player and he seems to be careful to not be in the front of any debate. If I had to vote for anyone I would vote for him atm.
Chaoser has been very pro-town in his posting across the board. Being super-vocal day 1 is a sure way to get killed night one. It's the players who haven't posted any real content that we have to worry about. I agree with varpulis here. And I would add I think it would be a pretty huge mistake to vote for chaoser on day1, unless we had some really damning evidence. He was one of the best players in the last TL mafia. It would be too big of a risk to potentially lose one of our best players unless we were very sure. I'm not saying I am going to vote for him, just saying to me he has had the largest jumps in posting history and it show'd up on my nooby radar. This may be due to real life commitments, it's impossible to tell. Please don't misrepresent me lol. TL Mafia XXXIX 44 69 73 90 102 121 140 203 208 211 226 242 246 267 283 284 291 295 297 310 312 341 342 345 349 350 351 362 368 452 467 I feel like my posting has been pretty consistent. I had a final from 4 to 6 today that I already mentioned and aside from those 2 hours + time I spent previous to get to the test room and go over the material with friends, there has been no "jump". I have a 84 post "jump". There are players who have way larger "jumps". Get your facts straight buddy. That being said, I have no qualms with anyone bringing a good, well thought-out argument and discussion to me about my play an alignment. It's very important to not get complacent with trusting one guy and depending on one leader.
You can "pro town" town right into a mass grave.
That's not an FoS. That's simply a warning to everybody here that hasn't played with you before.
And now that I think about it I did tunnel you in XXXVII. You scummy bastard.
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Of course I had help from Ver.
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OK, back from practice.
+ Show Spoiler [Redtooth] +
He is probably the most confusing player right now. First he accuses Irish for no reason, but then takes it back, followed by a policy post. His excuse was that he was trying to see how quickly people defended Irish, but what if that was plan B? Redtooth hasn't posted in a while now, and this has kinda died down, but I just want to remind everyone about what happened earlier. Don't just throw things away as soon as he makes an excuse.
+ Show Spoiler [Chaoser] +
Chaoser was very aggressive at first, of course starting with his accusation of Irish which was followed by additional aggressive posting. But then he calmed down a little. Is it because his Mafia buddies told him to, so as not to be targeted? That is the main question I have here.
+ Show Spoiler [Jackal58] +
Aggressive, but in a neutral way. Nothing he has said swings me one way or the other. He plays very well. You get a star! lol.
+ Show Spoiler [Irish_Punk13] +
May have overreacted to accusation, but that was probably just surprise... I don't blame him. He then blames AirbladeOrange, which isn't too suprising. More on him next.
+ Show Spoiler [AirbladeOrange] +
Very suspicious with not much of a defense. Possible vote right here.
+ Show Spoiler [Cthsazsa] +
Posting, but no real substance. Another possible vote.
+ Show Spoiler [Forumite] +
Very analytical, no aggressiveness.
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Nobody else really stands out enough or has enough posts for me to analyze their play. Just keep posting, people!
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Guess I fall into "doesn't stand out"
Success? >_>
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On May 05 2011 10:31 sinani206 wrote:OK, back from practice. + Show Spoiler [Redtooth] +
He is probably the most confusing player right now. First he accuses Irish for no reason, but then takes it back, followed by a policy post. His excuse was that he was trying to see how quickly people defended Irish, but what if that was plan B? Redtooth hasn't posted in a while now, and this has kinda died down, but I just want to remind everyone about what happened earlier. Don't just throw things away as soon as he makes an excuse.
Chaoser was very aggressive at first, of course starting with his accusation of Irish which was followed by additional aggressive posting. But then he calmed down a little. Is it because his Mafia buddies told him to, so as not to be targeted? That is the main question I have here.
Aggressive, but in a neutral way. Nothing he has said swings me one way or the other. He plays very well. You get a star! lol.
May have overreacted to accusation, but that was probably just surprise... I don't blame him. He then blames AirbladeOrange, which isn't too suprising. More on him next.
Very suspicious with not much of a defense. Possible vote right here.
Posting, but no real substance. Another possible vote.
Very analytical, no aggressiveness.
Nobody else really stands out enough or has enough posts for me to analyze their play. Just keep posting, people!
So...nobody else stood out except those that you looked at but then you voted for someone that didn't stand out for you and not the one you have marked down as "Possible vote right here" (AO)
On May 05 2011 10:39 sinani206 wrote:
##Vote: Kurumi
Huh? I'm confused by your actions. Please explain.
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On May 05 2011 10:45 DropBear wrote:
##Vote Beneather
Care to explain your vote too DropBear?
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On May 05 2011 10:45 KillerSOS wrote:
Guess I fall into "doesn't stand out"
Success? >_>
?? Your posts don't hold a lot of value really. I consider myself an invisible poster but I don't spam the thread with useless wifom like what you did here. What do you mean success? You like to not stand out because you are scum?
KillerFOS
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On May 05 2011 10:46 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2011 10:31 sinani206 wrote:OK, back from practice. + Show Spoiler [Redtooth] +
He is probably the most confusing player right now. First he accuses Irish for no reason, but then takes it back, followed by a policy post. His excuse was that he was trying to see how quickly people defended Irish, but what if that was plan B? Redtooth hasn't posted in a while now, and this has kinda died down, but I just want to remind everyone about what happened earlier. Don't just throw things away as soon as he makes an excuse.
Chaoser was very aggressive at first, of course starting with his accusation of Irish which was followed by additional aggressive posting. But then he calmed down a little. Is it because his Mafia buddies told him to, so as not to be targeted? That is the main question I have here.
Aggressive, but in a neutral way. Nothing he has said swings me one way or the other. He plays very well. You get a star! lol.
May have overreacted to accusation, but that was probably just surprise... I don't blame him. He then blames AirbladeOrange, which isn't too suprising. More on him next.
Very suspicious with not much of a defense. Possible vote right here.
Posting, but no real substance. Another possible vote.
Very analytical, no aggressiveness.
Nobody else really stands out enough or has enough posts for me to analyze their play. Just keep posting, people!
So...nobody else stood out except those that you looked at but then you voted for someone that didn't stand out for you and not the one you have marked down as "Possible vote right here" (AO) Huh? I'm confused by your actions. Please explain.
Oh sorry, did I not include Kurumi in my post? He was in the Word document.
Here he is:
+ Show Spoiler [Kurumi] +
Very analytical, but at the same time, very aggressive. He doesn't give up. This causes me to believe he is a member of the Mafia. I will be voting for him today,
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I´m voting Kurumi. His last post was 5 pages ago, and I´m open to retracting if he has a good defence once he gets online, or we find someone more scummy, but my vote is on him for now.
##Vote: Kurumi
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On May 05 2011 10:51 Forumite wrote:
I´m voting Kurumi. His last post was 5 pages ago, and I´m open to retracting if he has a good defence once he gets online, or we find someone more scummy, but my vote is on him for now.
##Vote: Kurumi
There's a voting thread.
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I’ve changed my mind about chaoser for the most part and tend to think he’s more town than scum at this point. His posts have been constructive, and he’s done some good analysis so far.
I didn’t like how Karumi was posting before, as I think a lot of it just ended up confusing everyone. He seems to have stopped that so far, whether that’s from not being able to check the thread or through conscious effort is hard to say. I think he may have realized he was somewhat close to getting lynched and decided whatever little game he was playing was doing more harm than good. I guess we’ll have to see how he continues to post.
I think the case against Irish_Punk13 has been the strongest so far. He had no reason to say that Karumi’s posts were good/to defend him. There was no evidence from Karumi’s posts that would lead anyone to believe they are helpful unless he’s seeing something in them that I’m not. For this reason I think the actual defense of the weird posting is more scummy than the actual weird posts themselves.
I understand why people are suspicious of AirbladeOrange, but I feel like what he said wasn’t that horrible of a thing to say, was it? This is my 4th game of mafia now, so I understand why it’s bad to say its fine to just go and lynch someone even if they might be town, but I feel like there are other candidates out there who would be better lynch targets.
I don’t really understand why Jackal is tunneling Cthsazsa so hard, but I guess it’s probably just to try to get a reaction out of people. I don’t really understand why he picked Cthsazsa when there were better candidates in my eyes. I guess it could have just been random. I don’t really see the harm in it other than the fact that maybe the aggression could have been put to better use somewhere else (maybe redtooth since he was suspicious earlier but hasn’t posted much recently?).
I did want to mention some thoughts about KillerSOS. So far, he has 49 posts in the thread, and I’ve seen only one that even attempts analysis. In pretty much everyone of his posts all he’s doing is agreeing with other people about who they’ve suspected. He posted briefly about his thoughts on Jackal, Cthsazsa, and chaoser, and decided that chaoser is the most suspicious because he posted a lot in the beginning then (seemingly) dialed back later on. His posts don’t really seem to have much substance to them. He’s definitely suspicious for me.
If I had to pick someone to vote for right now, it’d likely be between Irish_Punk13 and KillerSOS.
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EDBWODP:
oh wait you voted there too.
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On May 05 2011 10:50 ilovejonn wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2011 10:45 KillerSOS wrote:
Guess I fall into "doesn't stand out"
Success? >_> ?? Your posts don't hold a lot of value really. I consider myself an invisible poster but I don't spam the thread with useless wifom like what you did here. What do you mean success? You like to not stand out because you are scum? Killer FOS
How could standing out possibly be a good thing? Its only going to get you lynched or killed by the mafia.
Nice play on my name btw, but I would prefer KillerSOS
Also my whorish posting can be somewhat explained by my lack of interest in working on my paper, therefore I am obsessively F5'ing the thread. I'll be up all night finishing anyways...
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On May 05 2011 10:51 sinani206 wrote:
Very analytical, but at the same time, very aggressive. He doesn't give up. This causes me to believe he is a member of the Mafia. I will be voting for him today,
Maybe you need to be reading the thread more...
How can you say he is being very analytical (a positive good thing) and then go on to say that you think he is a member of mafia and vote for him when, on the flip side, you say AO is "Very suspicious with not much of a defense. Possible vote right here." and not for him?
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EBWDP: You either need to re-explain your post and your reasoning for the voting in a clearer way or you've contradicted yourself.
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SUSPICIOUS PEOPLE
Beneather
Redtooth
Cthsazsa
Irish_Punk13
First of all, Beneather. He was the last person to join the game and has 12 posts thus far. Only 4 have been after he got his role. His activity has dropped sharply.
On May 04 2011 12:01 Beneather wrote:
/confirm
Let's get this show started! :D
Nothing of note here.
On May 05 2011 08:19 Beneather wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2011 08:13 Jackal58 wrote:On May 05 2011 07:13 Cthsazsa wrote:
Why would we vote off inactives? We should leave them be. If they are mafia, well they aren't that much of a threat to us since they're not participating. On the other hand, if they're a townie then that'll just put a crutch in us. We'll lose a townie, PLUS we'd have wasted our votes.
People insisting that we vote off inactives just seems suspicious to me. Scum aren't a threat???? I know where my vote is going. Mafia slip :o Even if they do not participate in the discussion they still kill two of us. If they're inactive that means that they're lurking and don't want to get in to arguments to put suspicion on them so they do not get lynched. Pressuring inactives will make them active and find out if they're actually scum.
You haven't said anything here that others haven't said.
On May 05 2011 08:24 Beneather wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2011 08:22 Forumite wrote:
Of these three, I think we have the least to go on with AirbladeOrange, because he´s only got 4 posts so far. He looks more like a slow poster that made a few scumtells. Could you analyze these posts. So that we can see the scumtells you are telling us. We can't just bandwagon a guy just you say he has 4 posts and had a few scumtells. We need a little more than that.
Looking for a bandwagon? Asking people to provide analysis but providing none yourself? Contradictions.
On May 05 2011 08:40 Beneather wrote:
An inactive person is someone who is not posting or participating in actions is your definition of inactive? I really doubt that the whole mafia team is going to be inactive. It only needs one person to send in the kills. Also, the Host would know that the mafia is inactive and would probrably have to restart the game. So when we here inactive we think of lurkers it's the most logical way to think.
More about inactivity and repeating himself.
Beneather is currently my number 1 suspect as he has done nothing to help and is trying to blend in.
Redtooth said a whole lot of nothing in his large posts so far. He has gone quiet once his initial moves failed to get the reactions he desired. People have been comparing him with chaoser but I find their posts to be quite different. Redtooth says a whole lot less than chaoser does.
Cthsazsa is getting tunneled very hard by Jackal, but he hasn't actually said anything to clear himself. He is currently my number 2 suspect.
Irish_Punk13 has been done repeatedly so far by others and I have nothing new to add. I am slightly less suspicious of him than the others, he is a new player on a new forum and was attacked early. The interactions between himself and Kurumi are interesting. He is worth keeping an eye on very closely, but he is not as strong a candidate as Beneather for mine.
??? PEOPLE
Kurumi
On Kurumi, I have no idea what to think about this guy. I'm reserving judgement for now. I will say that trying to use his starcraft2 posts as an example of poor posting is poor thinking. All starcraft2 posting is poor ( jokes). Kurumi, post more stuff that isn't random numbers. You look like Chezinu and if you are town you may end up getting us a mislynch down the track which should be used on a mafia.
CONCLUSION
I am voting for Beneather as I find him to be lurking, have altered his posting since the game started and doing a whole lot of nothing to help town.
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On May 05 2011 11:00 KillerSOS wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2011 10:50 ilovejonn wrote:On May 05 2011 10:45 KillerSOS wrote:
Guess I fall into "doesn't stand out"
Success? >_> ?? Your posts don't hold a lot of value really. I consider myself an invisible poster but I don't spam the thread with useless wifom like what you did here. What do you mean success? You like to not stand out because you are scum? Killer FOS How could standing out possibly be a good thing? Its only going to get you lynched or killed by the mafia. Nice play on my name btw, but I would prefer Killer SOSAlso my whorish posting can be somewhat explained by my lack of interest in working on my paper, therefore I am obsessively F5'ing the thread. I'll be up all night finishing anyways...
Actually I agree with Jaminz's recently written post about you. The object of mafia FOR TOWN is not to stay alive till the end. It is to try to find mafia. And to do that you take stances on issues and you fight for them. We're not trying to say another 3 years in congress. However, it IS the job of the mafia to stay alive till the end. I've been standing out all game and I probably will be killed but I'll do some god before I go. FoS KillerSOS.
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My List-O-Doom
Irish_punk
Kurumi
KillerSOS
sinani206 (You need to explain yourself)
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On May 05 2011 11:00 KillerSOS wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2011 10:50 ilovejonn wrote:On May 05 2011 10:45 KillerSOS wrote:
Guess I fall into "doesn't stand out"
Success? >_> ?? Your posts don't hold a lot of value really. I consider myself an invisible poster but I don't spam the thread with useless wifom like what you did here. What do you mean success? You like to not stand out because you are scum? Killer FOS How could standing out possibly be a good thing? Its only going to get you lynched or killed by the mafia.Nice play on my name btw, but I would prefer Killer SOSAlso my whorish posting can be somewhat explained by my lack of interest in working on my paper, therefore I am obsessively F5'ing the thread. I'll be up all night finishing anyways...
Wow......this is such a dumb thing to say. You're essentially saying that its good not to say anything that could possibly make people (either mafia or town) look at you. You realize that the only way to find mafia is to do analysis, and that in doing analysis you're going to bring attention to yourself. I don't understand how you can make this comment and expect it to be a good explanation for your posting habits. This is insane
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On May 05 2011 11:06 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2011 11:00 KillerSOS wrote:On May 05 2011 10:50 ilovejonn wrote:On May 05 2011 10:45 KillerSOS wrote:
Guess I fall into "doesn't stand out"
Success? >_> ?? Your posts don't hold a lot of value really. I consider myself an invisible poster but I don't spam the thread with useless wifom like what you did here. What do you mean success? You like to not stand out because you are scum? Killer FOS How could standing out possibly be a good thing? Its only going to get you lynched or killed by the mafia. Nice play on my name btw, but I would prefer Killer SOSAlso my whorish posting can be somewhat explained by my lack of interest in working on my paper, therefore I am obsessively F5'ing the thread. I'll be up all night finishing anyways... Actually I agree with Jaminz's recently written post about you. The object of mafia FOR TOWN is not to stay alive till the end. It is to try to find mafia. And to do that you take stances on issues and you fight for them. We're not trying to say another 3 years in congress. However, it IS the job of the mafia to stay alive till the end. I've been standing out all game and I probably will be killed but I'll do some god before I go. FoS KillerSOS.
That is an interesting way of putting things. I'll allow you to think of all the possible roles in this game before blatantly explaining how you are wrong. The way you make it look like you are a positive to get killed and in the same statement giving me a FoS is too easy of a lead for any potential mafia to use.
Simply put if you were to die tonight, by this line of reasoning I must be mafia.
That seems a bit too forward than seems reasonable.
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