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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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Dirkzor
Denmark1944 Posts
Maybe it only looks weird to me since I know my alignment is town, but it looks preemptive if I was lynched. Anyone agree? | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On October 03 2013 19:44 marvellosity wrote: lol ok. One last thing - how do you feel about me, given my vote is on you right at this moment? I feel that you are still really null. But considering you know exactly how I played in Golden Sun, that vote was a bit weird. Im thinking it was a pressure vote so yeah Leaning town for now. Depends. If we lynch scum, then you probably are town, if we dont lynch scum today then you are more likely to be scum. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On October 02 2013 22:45 Dirkzor wrote: If I'm scum I wouldn't draw that much attention to myself. Meh... I find that I dont actually say this in my scum games, only my town games but maybe its just me. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On October 03 2013 19:47 Oatsmaster wrote: I feel that you are still really null. But considering you know exactly how I played in Golden Sun, that vote was a bit weird. Im thinking it was a pressure vote so yeah Leaning town for now. Depends. If we lynch scum, then you probably are town, if we dont lynch scum today then you are more likely to be scum. Why is this? How often have I been in a town that's lynched mafia Day 1 in the last 6 months? Feels a bit setup-y, Oats my boy. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On October 03 2013 19:47 Dirkzor wrote: Why was/is sloosh so sure I'm town? I'm having a hard time to figure this out. His reasoning and the way he see my timeline fit rather good with reality, but why did he come to that conclusion when no one else did/have? I know I'm town, but I also know that my first post wasn't stellar... Why was he defending me? Maybe it only looks weird to me since I know my alignment is town, but it looks preemptive if I was lynched. Anyone agree? Seeing as I basically posted this. Yes, I agree. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On October 03 2013 19:47 Dirkzor wrote: Why was/is sloosh so sure I'm town? I'm having a hard time to figure this out. His reasoning and the way he see my timeline fit rather good with reality, but why did he come to that conclusion when no one else did/have? I know I'm town, but I also know that my first post wasn't stellar... Why was he defending me? Maybe it only looks weird to me since I know my alignment is town, but it looks preemptive if I was lynched. Anyone agree? Yeah it is kinda interesting. Need to give it some thought. also ##Unvote Oats' answers have been reasonably satisfying to me. Well, as satisfying as Oats answers can really be. | ||
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Dirkzor
Denmark1944 Posts
On October 03 2013 19:46 Oatsmaster wrote: Dirkzor, how do you 180 after reading the same filter twice? I didn't 180. (read thread. The post you quoted earlier was me saying there is still something about him i find a bit scummy) I didn't read the same filter twice. I read the thread and put my thought in a post. Then after being pushed by marv and clarity went back and compared BH's and HF's filters to see where HF had sheeped BH like i felt he had. Thats when I saw that it wasn't so. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On October 03 2013 19:51 marvellosity wrote: Yeah it is kinda interesting. Need to give it some thought. also ##Unvote Oats' answers have been reasonably satisfying to me. Well, as satisfying as Oats answers can really be. You need a real man, marv. Call me. Anyway, dirk you should join me on the wagon of justice, in honor of iamp. ##unvote ##vote Sloosh | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On October 03 2013 19:49 marvellosity wrote: Why is this? How often have I been in a town that's lynched mafia Day 1 in the last 6 months? Feels a bit setup-y, Oats my boy. Well. Ok so we lynch scum today right. Would scum Marv be so bad as to allow his scumbuddy to be lynched? Nah I dont think so. AT THIS TIME. And if we lynch town today, there are 8 players left right? Im town. So 2 scum 5 town. You are more likely to be scum than today right? YEAHH!! MATH! | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
Sadly in Hero Mafia one of my scumbuddies did indeed get lynched Day 1. Not that that stopped me winning obviously. | ||
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Dirkzor
Denmark1944 Posts
##Vote Sloosh | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On October 03 2013 19:51 Dirkzor wrote: I didn't 180. (read thread. The post you quoted earlier was me saying there is still something about him i find a bit scummy) I didn't read the same filter twice. I read the thread and put my thought in a post. Then after being pushed by marv and clarity went back and compared BH's and HF's filters to see where HF had sheeped BH like i felt he had. Thats when I saw that it wasn't so. LIES. On October 02 2013 19:10 Dirkzor wrote: Yes he have been posting, but when I read it I don't really see any meat. Might just be me but that's how I see it. Some of his posts seems to be just for the sake of posting. + Show Spoiler + On October 02 2013 12:52 Holyflare wrote: Do you even read what is posted? On October 02 2013 14:05 Holyflare wrote: Stop posting long posts??? It's called analysis of a player. The fact that even after I've posted that you aren't asking me anything, aren't trying to discover whether I am in fact town or not and aren't trying to decipher other peoples motives is just rubbing me the wrong way. It's easy to jump on a player because he played the noob card but there are 2 scum in this game not just one. If i were to be lynched and did indeed flip town then wouldn't you regret not pressuring other people on why they think i'm a sure fire scum? When I read through his filter it feels clinicly clean. Don't know how to describe it really... it like trying to get rotten wood look fresh on the surface. So here I would assume you have a scumread on him. Then On October 02 2013 20:11 Dirkzor wrote: Thank you. Ok. So I went back to find evidence that HF have been sheeping BH. Not much was found... Only little thing was this (and it's not really worth noting in the sheeping department): And now you think hes townie. After reading the same exact filter. Or saying you had. Which is the same thing. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On October 03 2013 19:57 marvellosity wrote: Your faith is touching, Oats. Sadly in Hero Mafia one of my scumbuddies did indeed get lynched Day 1. Not that that stopped me winning obviously. 2 player scumteam different from 3 player scumteam. Anyway, yeah so far, I think my scale of scumreads are SCUMMY__ Dirkzor Sloosh Risen man that 180 so bad. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On October 02 2013 19:10 Dirkzor wrote: Yes he have been posting, but when I read it I don't really see any meat. Might just be me but that's how I see it. Some of his posts seems to be just for the sake of posting. + Show Spoiler + On October 02 2013 12:52 Holyflare wrote: Do you even read what is posted? On October 02 2013 14:05 Holyflare wrote: Stop posting long posts??? It's called analysis of a player. The fact that even after I've posted that you aren't asking me anything, aren't trying to discover whether I am in fact town or not and aren't trying to decipher other peoples motives is just rubbing me the wrong way. It's easy to jump on a player because he played the noob card but there are 2 scum in this game not just one. If i were to be lynched and did indeed flip town then wouldn't you regret not pressuring other people on why they think i'm a sure fire scum? When I read through his filter it feels clinicly clean. Don't know how to describe it really... it like trying to get rotten wood look fresh on the surface. On October 02 2013 20:11 Dirkzor wrote: Ok. So I went back to find evidence that HF have been sheeping BH. Not much was found... On October 02 2013 20:56 Dirkzor wrote: There is no physical evidence because it was a "I feel like this" vote. Same with Oats basicly. If I look at the posts and the way he have been acting I can see why people think he might be scum, but the feeling I got was somewhat townie. And that confuse me. After going back to prove my feeling there was nothing there and my feeling changed somewhat. Since I don't have much to work with so early on it is mostly how I feel. That probably sounds weird but thats how my head works. And don't hold the ellipses agaisnt me. I assure you that it is random. I used to do it a lot but I'm trying to stop when there is no particular need. I am not very good at that yet. Three quotes. 1) He read his filter. Indeed there are quotes from his filter 2) He went back to read his filter, and didn't find what he wrote 3) There's no evidence from the filter (even though there was in 1) because it was a 'feel' vote. On October 03 2013 15:46 Dirkzor wrote: I don't believe I framed it to be anything other then a feel read. I wrote how I felt about him. Him posting rubbish and following BH. After re-reading to stand up for my belief I got another feeling because there really wasn't any evidence.. And people have been noticing how I made 2 quotes of Oats and then voted HF with only a few lines attached. That was because BH said oats was scummy and I wanted to weigh in on that. The post ended up going another way though. But in 1) he read his filter? How do you read someone's filter and come away with only 'feels' and untrue evidence? I thought I could get over this but I'm not sure I can :/ | ||
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Dirkzor
Denmark1944 Posts
I never did a 180. I still think some of his post are more for show then for real scumhunting (like the post I linked that you quoted). What changed was my belief of him being unoriginal and sheeping BH. The 2nd post you are quoting are during the process of comparing.. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On October 03 2013 20:51 Dirkzor wrote: I am at work now so this will be fast. I never did a 180. I still think some of his post are more for show then for real scumhunting (like the post I linked that you quoted). What changed was my belief of him being unoriginal and sheeping BH. The 2nd post you are quoting are during the process of comparing.. I presume this is in reply to Oats' post. What comparing are you talking about exactly? | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
My activity is not alignment indicative. I know i have not done much, because i have not had time to do stuff. That doesn't make me scum. BH's RNG bullshit (which i am going to go into next) has taken basically all my time in this game. I can't let go of something i don't understand, and everything else has been easily understandable in this game. Also BH saying i have been here is wrong. It's just wrong, because it is not true. I have been here when i have been posting, when i have not been posting i have not been here. Then the RNG bullshit: First of all, how this shit started. In his first posts BH proposes Oats RNG lynch. Guess what. After this it's not a random lynch any more. It's "lynch Oatsmaster who Blazinghand randomized". I can't believe that shit went on and on for pages and i can't believe BH really somehow got a scumread on Oats for it. Oats was being totally reasonable in my opinion, called out bad stuff (HF's post and BH's behaviour). There was nothing wrong with it. Yet Blazinghand kept going on and on with that. So what do we have here: Blazinghand: Proposing random lynch the way he did is bad. Could town!BH do it? Probably yes. Would town!BH go on with it and then call Oats scum for flimsy reasons? I have no fucking idea. I especially didn't like his response to Oats when Oats said "i do this all the time as town and never as scum". I even pointed out the post by BH earlier on in thread. That to me seems like "even if people come and say this is what Oats does as town i still have my reasons to lynch him". Being bad =/= being scum. Also Oats was not being bad, he was being reasonable. Oats: Comes out looking best from that shitfest. HolyFlare: That's not a randomlynch for him. It's not, there is no reason to vote for Oats because it's random. No. Risen: His comments were reasonable and his vote was perfectly fine. As for my reads (from towniest to scummiest): marv: This is the marv i like. He's taken the leader position in town and is doing a good job. Pointing out stuff that's bad and having clear stances on things. I would still love to hear his read on BH (i mean, a read with reasoning), because i have not seen much of content from BH. Risen: I liked his stance on the RNG thingy. I liked his vote on HolyFlare. I dunno why he unvoted HF, could you explain that Risen? I liked some things in his case on Clarity, and the case itself to me tells much more about Risen than it tells about Clarity. It mirrors the mindset Risen had in GoT, almost perfectly. There is a lot of stuff he looks form different angle than anyone else. Oatsmaster: Seems like towny!Oats to me. I found his posting during the RNG shitfest weird, as i pointed out before. But all in all he's having a clear thought process and putting his thoughts out there when pressured (marv -- Oats a while ago). If Oats was scum it would be easy to hide behind his playstyle (where he just calls people scum or town and never explains anything for real), this game he needs to be made explain his thoughts, and so far he has succeeded. Clarity: Clarity looked good early on in the game. I can see where he is coming from with his comment on BH being a cool guy (although i don't agree with it - gamewise :p). Clarity now that i have actually understood the early game could you tell me what was good in the RNG discussion? Yes it did produce content, but imo it did produce content that was based on false premises. After this Clarity asks a lot of questions and does not provide conclusions. I can somehow see what he concludes but still, he's not explaining it. I don't like his stance on BH, i like his case on Dirk. HolyFlare: I don't like his vote still being on Oats. Afaik i understand it's because of RNG, which is not in fact rng for him. Other than that he has made some good observations, then nothing. BlazingHand: This guy is pretty much impossible to read for me. Basically he does whatever he does and to me it feels like all the important stuff he tries to say is hidden in a big pile of words. I don't know where his head is at (besides him voting for me, but that's another thing). I don't know why he finds Risen/HF scummy, and his reasons for Oats being scummy are bad. As for now, he apparently doesn't like anyone besides marv... Sloosh: Scummy. I don't understand his townread on Dirk. Says he will get to Risen & HF when he has time. Never follows that up. Then votes for Clarity with his -- apparenly -- scumread Risen. Dirkzor: Horrible opening post. Horrible follow up. Then he says he wants to lynch me or Sloosh, i don't see any reasons from him. When the thread sentiment turns into "Sloosh looks bad" (Clarity voting for him etc.), THEN he places his vote on Sloosh. Best lynch. ##Vote: Dirkzor | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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