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Votecount!
Palmar(2) VisceraEyes Wunder
Hiro Protagonist(1) Palmar
prplhz(3) Mataza DeepBlu2 stefftastiq
Mataza(4) nard prplhz hiro protagonist Skrammen
Mataza currently leading with four votes. about 1 hour left in the day. If I missed any votes let me know. It looks like everyone has voted ^_^
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why are Hiro and Palmar more scum than Prplhz?
+ Show Spoiler +18:01 VisceraEyes -> stefftastiq 18:59 Palmar -> DeepBlue2 19:54 DeepBlue2 -> GiygaS 01:00 Mataza -> GiygaS 01:39 VisceraEyes -> () 02:48 Skrammen -> GiygaS 07:25 GiygaS -> Skrammen 07:35 prplhz -> Skrammen 07:51 VisceraEyes -> prplhz 09:01 VisceraEyes -> () 09:01 VisceraEyes -> GiygaS 09:05 Karshe -> Skrammen 09:48 hiro protagonist -> Skrammen 09:56 Wunder -> Skrammen 09:58 stefftastiq -> GiygaS 10:08 nard -> Skrammen 10:55 prplhz -> () 10:55 prplhz -> GiygaS 11:00 Voting ends
if we compare these votingpatterns to the last voting patterns, we can se that both prplhz, hard and hiro protaganist teamed up on skrammen - they now team up on Mataza (with Skrammen randomly teaming up because of his looks upon Mataza)
This is solely based on how the voting looked at the last lynch, compared to this one (as far as recall) - ofcourse other people voted as well - but they havent voted yet
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@ stefftastiq
prplhz and I voted for different people.
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@VisEyes
My effiort for a hiro lynch seems to not be going anywhere. Deepblu2 is the other person I trust, and he voted for purplehaze, but between the two, I'm inclined to think Mataza's destructive behavior regarding the blue roles smells more of scum, than purplehaze's randomness.
One thing I'm almost certain of, is that they're not both mafia. I have strong cases against both wunder and hiro protagonist, and I think one of those two must definitely be scum.
Which one do you think is more likely to be scum? I want to say Mataza, but hiro voted for him which is something I find very suspicious, and is a reason for me to stay awake until the lynching so I can help counter any last-minute switches.
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yeah, him changing votes can kind seem like a 'cover up' for not all mafias voting for the same people in the same round, hiro and prplz still seems like the "most obvious" to me for some reason - and I belive that Mataza is town just by the amount of effort he puts into trying figuring out who mafia is - I might be fooled tho :-)
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Interesting stefftastiq, because my exact problem with mataza has been the effort he put in power roles that may or may not exist, instead of hunting mafia. To the point he created a plan that might have pulled short-sighted inexperienced players into doing really stupid things that would hurt the town.
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@Palmar
Why do you trust Deepblu2 ?
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@stefftastiq
I have two reasons to believe DeepBlu2 is town-side.
First, I accused him in day 1. He did not overreact to the accusation but instead calmly collected his thoughts and analysed the potential scum.
Second, his analysis in the first day was correct. He was the first person to actually cast a vote against GiygaS, and he did not change it from there.
His entire play seems consistent and town oriented, if a little inactive. If DeepBlu2 is mafia, he is at least playing a very well covered game.
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Okay...Mataza, my Palmar push fails as your prplhz push does. ##Unvote ##Vote Mataza
This is about voting with the town as I believe solidarity is important in the days ahead. I'm certain that either myself or Palmar (the most active of the remaining players left) will die in the night. This is going to put the town in a VERY VERY precarious situation if Mataza flips green. I really hope you inactives know what you're doing. Mataza did.
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@Palmar
if Mataza would show up to be scum - well, we will see that later, and maybe we might be fooled no more.
If the remaining mafia would be hiro, prplz and mataza - of those three mataza are the one i least believe is mafia - so it would be no problem saving his lynch for later giving him more time to prove he is not. - as for both of the other players more people have made up an opinion those in between and spread themselves on the two of them instead of all of 'townies' vote for the same.
This is exciting :-)
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@stefftastiq
One of the best scum-tells is that scum tend to overreact to accusation. Obviously the scum knows this, so they will try to stay calm when accused, but you can often pick up little signs of panic in even well constructed responses.
One more thing DeepBlu2 did well, when he mistakenly said that hiro had explained himself, and I corrected him, he just accepted the correction and moved on. Mataza however seems intent on not getting corrected.
Unwillingness to change your opinion is bad for the town.
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@Palmar
True - I just feel like Mataza is being lynched based on the wrong accusations - but I guess we will see soon
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On May 21 2011 10:44 stefftastiq wrote: of those three mataza are the one i least believe is mafia - so it would be no problem saving his lynch for later giving him more time to prove he is not.
This is a very good point, I've been trying to spread the word, but to no avail. I'm glad someone understands it.
Finding inactive mafia is always more important than finding active mafia, because it's so much easier to analyse someone that has 100 posts, than someone that has 3 posts.
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@Palmar
And that's been one of the main reasons I have been confident that Mataza is scum. I think that since I posted that I think he's scum he's been acting very weird in his defense and in his counter accusations. I think that if he had remained more collected I would have had serious seconds thoughts by now, like I had day1. But I just think he panicked a lot and VisceraEyes kinda reaffirmed that for me and this is going to be terrible if it turns out that he's green but for some reason not keeping himself together.
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##Unvote
##Vote hiro protagonist
ok - rethought some things! gl
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@prplhz
Well that's one of my big problems with the Mataza lynch. He's either bad townie or mafia. If he's bad townie you can't read too much into the votes casted against him, because while I haven't voted for him myself, I fully understand anyone that makes the decision to vote for him.
So yeah, I'm worried that this lynch will not give us enough information.
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Maybe it's because I'm new at this game so I consider him more savvy than you probably do, as you seem to be somewhat familiar with this game or at least "better" than I am. Anybody who is as good as I think Mataza is is mafia because he's not that bad a townie.
@stefftastiq
Weird timing for doing something that has no effect on the game at all
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@Viscera I wish you luck going into day 3.
@Palmar Your fear got the better of you. You should step up your game dramatically.
@Prplhz I hope you die next. With this little interest from town, you might have already won.
If our blue role was a vigilante, I could see why he is important. I cannot understand why Doctor did what he did. But the COP is only good if he works with the town before he dies without saying a word.
GG
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United States22154 Posts
On May 21 2011 09:54 GMarshal wrote:
Votecount!
Palmar(1)
VisceraEyes Wunder
Hiro Protagonist(2) Palmar stefftastiq
prplhz(2) Mataza DeepBlu2
stefftastiq
Mataza(5) nard prplhz hiro protagonist Skrammen VisceraEyes
Mataza currently leading with five votes. about 2 minutes left in the day. If I missed any votes let me know. It looks like everyone has voted ^_^
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@prplhz
Yeah, i know - makes me looks like a undecisive schmuck or something - I just vote in that order I would like to see people lynched - who knows, others could have changed too :-p
If Mataza shows up to be Mafia it would just be "two more steps" down the road for my "hit list" for lynsjing - if he shows up to be townie tho Ill probably regret writing this post ;-p - But then a lot more people would be wrong too soo ![](/mirror/smilies/smile.gif)
this is exciting
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