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On June 21 2011 09:48 gtrsrs wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2011 09:27 Treadmill wrote:
Nonsense. You two have been very loudly disagreeing but your actions have been hand in hand. This is exactly what you're trying to get us to believe, so that when one of you flips mafia we won't possibly go after the other. stop being naive drazerk has been buddying me all game since i claimed so that you would think these exact thoughts drazerk is 100% mafia, i am the medic stop trying to tie us together, it's what he wants
You know what I don't care anymore I made it past day 1 and that was more than I thought I would
Lynch me ill flip green and we all lose as people have said 2 miss lynches = game over
May as well waste one on me now since you guys don't believe me regardless
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I went into Day 1 thinking I struck gold by finding two mafia. Then an hour before the end of the day my prime target claims blue, resulting in everyone switching over last minute and killing a townie instead.
Night 1 arrives and the only thing I see is Drazerk and gtrsrs going at it relentlessly, then agreeing on some points, then back to stabbing each other, then drazerk latches on to gtrsrs, then gtrsrs tells him to f-off… well we all see what happens. It’s really hard for me to believe that one, if not both are mafia.
Day 2 arrives and omgCRAZY is hit. I was almost certain mafia would take the bait of a free medic and hit gtrsrs. I mean why not? Re-reading all the posts I’d have to agree with
On June 21 2011 08:36 gtrsrs wrote:
mafia is relying on me missing my saves (which i did last night) and using their roleblock and kill to try to hit the detective with either
Then it does become clear to me. Gtrsrs really is medic. He was left alive so we could lynch him in Day 2. He’s probably the most obvious lynch if he failed to prove hes medic… almost too obvious. Me, treadmill, pyo and maybe even drazerk would have voted him almost guaranteeing a lynch right off the bat.
+ Show Spoiler + If you make a successful save, both you and your target will be notified of the save.
There were no successful saves that night. Nobody would be notified of a save that didn't happen. Town can't confirm that gtrsrs is medic so he would be lynched. HOWEVER, Alderan got roleblocked. omgCRAZY got hit. What this means is that the mafias full intention that night was to hit or stop the DT. Think about it. omgCRAZY does have fairly low post count. Alderan as well. Either of the two are valid candidates for being DT. Mafia did not hit gtrsrs because they expected him to get lynched today. So mafia went DT hunting instead. It makes perfect sense. If we lynch gtrsrs we’d lose our medic and be playing right into the trap. I’m positive this is the case now. Please do not lynch gtrsrs! His posts actually make sense. Treadmill and pyo, at this stage you’ve already voted for gtrsrs. I urge you to look at all the posts again.
With that said I’ll continue to go with my first intuition then which is drazerk. He played so scummy and tried to attach to our medic while attacking him, then attaching to him, then attacking him again, then tries to offer himself as martyr. I think this was done primarily to confuse town and to get votes on gtrsrs. I almost fell for it myself.
On June 21 2011 07:00 Drazerk wrote:
as far as it goes this is the priority hit list -
1.Xedat
2.Me - gtrsrs
3.Freeloader - Alderan
4.Pyo - treadmill etc
Just listing them in the order of scummy activity nothing more / less
Then he posts something like this. This post looks constructive but fails in the sense that WE DON’T HAVE THAT MANY LYNCHES! Even one myslynch is fatal and you still want to martyr yourself. If you were a town and we lynch you then we lose. Why would a town tell the town to lynch a town when we have no lynches left? A martyr town lynch would simply mean we lose. We have so little room for error.
Posts like these and your random flurry of attacks/agreements and martyr attitude has me convinced what I thought in day 1 that you drazerk are still scum.
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I still think gtrsrs is scum.
And me attacking you is not being wishy washy gtrsrs.
##vote: gtrsrs
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no posts since nearly 9 hours? Say something town, silence will only help scum.
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On June 22 2011 00:44 Xedat wrote:
no posts since nearly 9 hours? Say something town, silence will only help scum.
go f*ck yourself gtrsrs. Way to suck the life out of the game with your bs. If you're town, you're a terrible town who has done nothing but kill the conversation and destroy the fun of the game with the way you play the game. If you're mafia, as I suspect, congratulations. I have the feeling that this game is basically dead.
I mean when the host has to make a post like this, you know something's wrong.
To be honest, this game isn't even any fun anymore, so I'm just going to lay out my future votes and only post once per day until I'm dead:
1. gtrsrs (for reasons that I've already laid out)
2. supersoft (mostly for this post)
3. alderan (for pretty much saying nothing)
4. freeloader (his posts have a general scummy feel of saying stuff without saying stuff. he is first to accuse gtrsrs, but it backfires. Changes his vote after the "medic claim". Then is the one to bring forward this idea that mafia let gtrsrs live so that we'd lynch him.
5. drazerk, treadmill, xedat in alphabetical order (if we haven't won by now, we'd have lost)
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On June 22 2011 02:41 Pyo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2011 00:44 Xedat wrote:
no posts since nearly 9 hours? Say something town, silence will only help scum. go f*ck yourself gtrsrs. Way to suck the life out of the game with your bs. If you're town, you're a terrible town who has done nothing but kill the conversation and destroy the fun of the game with the way you play the game. If you're mafia, as I suspect, congratulations. I have the feeling that this game is basically dead. I mean when the host has to make a post like this, you know something's wrong. To be honest, this game isn't even any fun anymore, so I'm just going to lay out my future votes and only post once per day until I'm dead: 1. gtrsrs (for reasons that I've already laid out) 2. supersoft (mostly for this post) 3. alderan (for pretty much saying nothing) 4. freeloader (his posts have a general scummy feel of saying stuff without saying stuff. he is first to accuse gtrsrs, but it backfires. Changes his vote after the "medic claim". Then is the one to bring forward this idea that mafia let gtrsrs live so that we'd lynch him. 5. drazerk, treadmill, xedat in alphabetical order (if we haven't won by now, we'd have lost)
>feigning disinterest, check
>saying you won't help the town any more, check
>laying out your voting pattern before any evidence is presented, check
>voting for the 4 most pro-town players first, check
>leaving the 2 confirmed mafia for 5th and 7th votes, respectively, check
duly noted scum
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I would also like to chime in and say that gtrsrs' bad mannered style makes me not want to play the game. But he also did it when he was town so that does not mean he is scum.
Just check if he signs up to the same game you do, I will.
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On June 21 2011 16:45 Xedat wrote:
I still think gtrsrs is scum.
And me attacking you is not being wishy washy gtrsrs.
##vote: gtrsrs
really now, do you?
it's funny that you say "still" because as far as i can tell you've never actually thought i was scum
let's take a stroll through your posts shall we
On June 17 2011 07:32 Xedat wrote:
Another question:
Are dead mafia players allowed to give advice/talk in the mafia Quicktopic?
didn't notice this til now. why would a town ever need to know this? not enough to be suspicious of someone but it sure does lend credibility to my case.
On June 18 2011 19:10 Xedat wrote:
Generic post not to be modkilled.....
To say one last word to the setup discussion, I think blues should only claim when they are being lynched or if they think outing themselves will help town.
Now, as we need to pressure someone, Drazerk, why do you bring the focus away from freeloader immediately and try to incriminate 3 people who haven't posted hours after the game started. Trying to protect your scumbuddy?
bolded blue noted for later
On June 18 2011 19:36 Xedat wrote:
Aha, why so defensive. Scared to be lynched? Maybe they didn't lurk but simply did not read the thread until now.
On June 18 2011 23:00 Xedat wrote:
Yeah, I am not actually suspecting you, just tried to get someone talking. We will see if someone slips something stupid, otherwise it will be a random lynch tomorrow I think.
these two posts reek of scummy wishy-washiness. he fake accuses Drazerk and then before anyone can take it seriously, he backs off it. "oh no no i wasn't actually accusing him lol LET'S WAIT FOR SCUM TO SLIP"
On June 19 2011 17:31 Xedat wrote:
I agree that we should not waste our lynch on an inactive player. I find it quite strange that Drazerk does not really defend himself after it looks like he is to be lynched. There has been a lot of discussion about him and I think lynching the most talked about player actually has some merit, as it will help us scumhunting. As others have said, just waiting until someone slips is not a winning strategy.
If you are under fire, please defend yourself properly. I know that it is pretty difficult on day one, but saying nothing is the worst you can do.
##vote: Drazerk
"wait for scum to slip? that's the dumbest thing anyone's ever said lol!! oh, it was exactly what i said in my last post? PANIC VOTE"
On June 20 2011 00:02 Xedat wrote:
It doesn't look like Drazerk wants to martyr himself.
I also think his defense is half decent. I actually would like to hear what gtrsrs has to say to the people voting for him.
To me it looked like Pyo's first vote on Drazerk was to make the game a bit more livelier and I voted for Drazerk because he didn't respond for that. Right now I don't think that Drazerk is too scummy anymore.
I will change my vote to gtrsrs, let's see who will defend him and what his defense is.
##unvote: Drazerk
##vote: gtrsrs
see my post earlier (here) for why this solidified Xedat as scum in my eyes. Drazerk offered NO defense whatsoever, nothing even resembling a defense, but Xedat was all too happy to pull his vote off his scumbuddy now that the pressure was on me instead. with only a handful of posts, none of which have ANY substance, Xedat "doesn't think that Drazerk is too scummy anymore". el oh el.
On June 20 2011 05:46 Xedat wrote:
##unvote gtrsrs
##vote: appruds
I think he has defended himself enough and the tunneling by Drazerk and appruds is a bit too crazy.
wishy washy much? as soon as i claim medic, which you'll remember he asked blues to do ealier in the thread he pulls his vote off me and puts it on aprudds, who is just an over-eager townie. now remember, mafia knows who is town. as long as *someone* was getting lynched, mafia doesn't care. that's why Xedat has been so adamant about lynching someone today instead of doing the smart thing and voting for Lord Vatti.
On June 20 2011 05:48 Xedat wrote:
EBWODP:
If appruds is not scum gtrsrs probably is scum and not medic.
Lets see what the night brings.
an interesting change in position seeing as you told blues to claim if they were being lynched.
On June 20 2011 05:51 Xedat wrote:
I don't know what to do anymore. I don't think gtrsrs is mafia by now, why do oyu think Drazerk is more scummy than appruds gtrsrs?
really? last post you said i was scum if aprudds flipped green. THIS IS THE DEFINITION OF WISHY-WASHY SCUM, TRYING TO SPREAD CONFUSION
On June 20 2011 05:55 Xedat wrote:
Yes everyone seems to be active right now.
My vote stays on appruds, I am going to bed.
This is why you don't lynch inactive people day one gtrsrs, at least we have a lot of stuff to work with tommorow.
If we had lynched Lord Vatti we would have started with 2 townies down as no one would have said anything worthwhile.
See you guys tomorrow.
no, xedat, this is why you lynch the guy who's already going to die. instead of starting with 2 dead townies, we start with 3 and lose a mis-lynch. but of course mafia sees this as a good thing.
On June 20 2011 21:22 Xedat wrote:
looks like gtrsrs is scum, and only because you claimed medic does not mean you are a confirmed medic. On Drazerk analyzing me, the first few posts we did was simply to start a discussion, how that is incriminating is beyond me.
Second of all, being one if the first persons to vote for someon is not "jumping on a bandwagon."
Third of all, if you are town how is changing my vote áway from you scummy in any way?
Also, if you think gtrsrs is town why is it scummy to change my vote from him. If he is the medic I would be stupid to vote for him. The other 2 options were you and appruds. In my eyes you were clear, so I had the choice between a claimed medic someone I thought was town and a more scummy player. Of course I vote for the person that is most scummiest to protect our medic. Voting for someone totally different to get the focus away from me would be the scummy way to play.
Please town, think for yourself and don't let yourself be led by mafia to an early grave.
It is entierly possible that Drazerk and gtrsrs are mafia and do this all to get town cred, but I think it is more probable that only gtrsrs or none of them is mafia.
a nice juicy contradiction-filled post. let's break it down
a. 5 posts ago i was town. 3 posts ago i was scum. 2 posts ago i was not scum. now i'm scum again.
b. no, being one of the first people to vote for someone after the initial vote is the DEFINITION of "jumping on a bandwagon," sorry.
c. now i'm town again, as long as it clears Xedat?
d. "If he is the medic I would be stupid to vote for him. " but you don't think i'm the medic. you think i'm scum. but not enough to actually vote for me?
is anyone else reading this?
On June 21 2011 02:53 Xedat wrote:
So who is mafia in your book gtrsrs? Accusing everyone? You said that between Xedat, Drazerk, CjrNinja and appruds there are 100% percent 3 mafioso. And now suddenly Pyo is mafia too?
Why don't you say anything about appruds?
Lets face it people, gtrsrs is very scummy, take everything he says with a grain of salt and don't just believe him.
who is mafia in my books? Xedat, Drazerk and then someone else. i can't tell if Pyo is being a bad sport or a clever mafia. thinking back, it's unlikely for all three mafia to jump on the bandwagon immediately, that would be too obvious. so i'm feeling CjrNinja less and less. it's still a possibility however.
as for saying things about aprudds, don't gloss over my posts. IMMEDIATELY after Drazerk jumped ship off me and onto aprudds, i asked people to take their votes of aprudds. it was an extremely blatant scumtell and the town didn't pick up on it. i feel bad for aprudds. he was trying to play like me in a situation where it was unneeded, and it made HIM look really scummy. you and Drazerk orchestrated a voteswing at the last minute before people could pull their votes off of aprudds.
town, to me it is very obvious that Xedat is scum. i think Drazerk is as well, but i feel like Xedat is the better vote here. i know this now looks like 2 days in a row that i've soft-defended Drazerk, but that's not the case i swear. hopefully this is enough for you guys to put your vote on the obvious mafia
##vote: Xedat
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On June 22 2011 02:58 Xedat wrote:
I would also like to chime in and say that gtrsrs' bad mannered style makes me not want to play the game. But he also did it when he was town so that does not mean he is scum.
Just check if he signs up to the same game you do, I will.
play to win, don't play to make friends
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On June 22 2011 03:07 gtrsrs wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 00:02 Xedat wrote:
It doesn't look like Drazerk wants to martyr himself.
I also think his defense is half decent. I actually would like to hear what gtrsrs has to say to the people voting for him.
To me it looked like Pyo's first vote on Drazerk was to make the game a bit more livelier and I voted for Drazerk because he didn't respond for that. Right now I don't think that Drazerk is too scummy anymore.
I will change my vote to gtrsrs, let's see who will defend him and what his defense is.
##unvote: Drazerk
##vote: gtrsrs see my post earlier (here) for why this solidified Xedat as scum in my eyes. Drazerk offered NO defense whatsoever, nothing even resembling a defense, but Xedat was all too happy to pull his vote off his scumbuddy now that the pressure was on me instead. with only a handful of posts, none of which have ANY substance, Xedat "doesn't think that Drazerk is too scummy anymore". el oh el.
also, whoops, forgot to hyperlink. that should read:
see my post earlier (here) for why this solidified Xedat as scum in my eyes
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On June 22 2011 03:08 gtrsrs wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2011 02:58 Xedat wrote:
I would also like to chime in and say that gtrsrs' bad mannered style makes me not want to play the game. But he also did it when he was town so that does not mean he is scum.
Just check if he signs up to the same game you do, I will. play to win, don't play to make friends
There's a huge difference between playing to win/not playing to make friends and being huge jackass.
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On June 22 2011 02:45 gtrsrs wrote:
>feigning disinterest, check
>saying you won't help the town any more, check
>laying out your voting pattern before any evidence is presented, check
>voting for the 4 most pro-town players first, check
>leaving the 2 confirmed mafia for 5th and 7th votes, respectively, check
On June 22 2011 03:36 Pyo wrote:
There's a huge difference between playing to win/not playing to make friends and being huge jackass.
>ignoring my analysis of your scumbuddy, check
>derailing the thread with petty 1-liner insults, check
On June 22 2011 02:45 gtrsrs wrote:
duly noted scum
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On June 22 2011 02:45 gtrsrs wrote:
>feigning disinterest, check
>saying you won't help the town any more, check
>laying out your voting pattern before any evidence is presented, check
>voting for the 4 most pro-town players first, check
>leaving the 2 confirmed mafia for 5th and 7th votes, respectively, check
- I assure you that my acquired disinterest for this game is quite real
- I'm not saying I won't help town any more; I'm saying that it is beyond hope.
- I gave my reasons for my future voting patterns.
- 4 most pro-town players? what? first of all, according to whom? you? right. Just because someone says they are town doesn't mean that they are.
- 2 confirmed mafia for 5th and 7th? what? As far as I can tell the only confirmed mafia is you.
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On June 22 2011 04:05 Pyo wrote:
- 2 confirmed mafia for 5th and 7th? what? As far as I can tell the only confirmed mafia is you.
the whole town knows that drazerk is mafia, and i just made a waterproof case against xedat. i'm the medic as has been established repeatedly. if you think i'm mafia make a case, I WILL GLADLY REFUTE IT. stop trying to muck up the thread and lead town away from lynching reds.
if you're so disinterested in the game, get a sub. you're not helping town with your current posts, and voting for the confirmed medic. if you won't get a sub, you're feigning disinterest because you're mafia.
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On June 22 2011 03:43 gtrsrs wrote:
>ignoring my analysis of your scumbuddy, check
>derailing the thread with petty 1-liner insults, check
what analysis? you mean your incoherent spam? right.
You began by sort of laying low until you were called out on it. Then you went into hyper ass hole mode. And when people actually believed that you're the medic, you proceeded to try and tell everyone what to do. You aren't doing analysis, you're just trying to dictate what the town does. If you really were the medic, then you have no more information about who is what than anyone else, and less information than the DT (assuming both you and alderan are telling the truth). Everything about what you're doing screams scum, yet it's almost incomprehensible that a mafia would so brazen about it. My only conclusion is that you're a terrible asshole of a townie or an ego-tripping mafia for having convinced people to change their minds after claiming medic.
Either way, trying to analyze your incoherent posting is just pissing me off in a "fuck this game I can't stand this jack-ass" sort of way.
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On June 22 2011 04:10 gtrsrs wrote:
if you're so disinterested in the game, get a sub. you're not helping town with your current posts, and voting for the confirmed medic. if you won't get a sub, you're feigning disinterest because you're mafia.
Gladly. If there are any subs available, I'd be more than happy to step out. In the event that there aren't any subs, I'll continue to post my required post/vote so I don't jeopardize my ability to participate in future mafia games.
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On June 22 2011 04:14 Pyo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2011 03:43 gtrsrs wrote:
>ignoring my analysis of your scumbuddy, check
>derailing the thread with petty 1-liner insults, check
what analysis? you mean your incoherent spam? right. You began by sort of laying low until you were called out on it. Then you went into hyper ass hole mode. And when people actually believed that you're the medic, you proceeded to try and tell everyone what to do. You aren't doing analysis, you're just trying to dictate what the town does. If you really were the medic, then you have no more information about who is what than anyone else, and less information than the DT (assuming both you and alderan are telling the truth). Everything about what you're doing screams scum, yet it's almost incomprehensible that a mafia would so brazen about it. My only conclusion is that you're a terrible asshole of a townie or an ego-tripping mafia for having convinced people to change their minds after claiming medic. Either way, trying to analyze your incoherent posting is just pissing me off in a "fuck this game I can't stand this jack-ass" sort of way.
incoherent spam? lol?
please scroll up to this post, it's nice and easy, it's on this very page, and read my irrefutable case against your scum buddy.
i don't have any *more* information about xedat than anyone else. luckily, he's laid out his guilty plainly in the thread so we *all* can see it.
i laid low because i was blue. i tried to get the town to lynch Lord Vatti because i did the math and we had only a 30% chance of hitting a mafia on day 1. WHY WOULDN'T WE TAKE A FREE DAY? trying to spin that as pro-mafia is so bass-ackwards i don't know what to say.
cut the petty insults and step your game up, or get a sub. when you leave we can chalk my number up to 2 mafia i've made rage-quit with my unrelenting correctness
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On June 22 2011 04:17 Pyo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2011 04:10 gtrsrs wrote:
if you're so disinterested in the game, get a sub. you're not helping town with your current posts, and voting for the confirmed medic. if you won't get a sub, you're feigning disinterest because you're mafia. Gladly. If there are any subs available, I'd be more than happy to step out. In the event that there aren't any subs, I'll continue to post my required post/vote so I don't jeopardize my ability to participate in future mafia games.
I'll see what I can do, but it dosn't appear like I have any available right now. If you are *that* annoyed and will not enjoy the game you may back out of the game at the end of this cycle (dawn of day 3), with no repercussions, I'm not going to force anyone to have a horrible time in what is supposed to be a fun game. PM me if you wish to discuss it further.
I also remind everyone that flaming, in either direction, is 100% not acceptable.
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Oh man it's incredibly difficult with you guys... It's so hard to separate between newbs and scum. The newbs act extremely suspicious. The consequence is that like 60% of the players are suspicious.
Xedat/Drazerk/Alderan/CjrNinja/Treadmill I really don't know what to think about you guys. I just see you guys bandwagoning around.
But we can't just lynch you all in a small game like this. We are 2 lynches away from losing. You guys have to realize this!
Can you please post some more thought out posts? It would really help us. We have to stick together in order to beat the mafia at this point. If everyone is only interested in surviving, we can't and won't win this.
Xedat, it would be great if you post some explanations for your behavior. Especially the posts I quoted in my last post.
+ Show Spoiler +On June 21 2011 07:47 supersoft wrote:I have to agree, Xedat is pretty suspicious. I just went trough all his posts. at first, he just makes some useless posts, no accuses, just a little bandwagoning here and there. In fact he first voted on Drazerk, switched to gtrsrs and switched again to aprudds. Not a reason to call him scum (I also switched twice :D) What made me consider that he's mafia is his recent behavior. Since people started accusing him, he changed dramatically: + Show Spoiler +On June 20 2011 21:22 Xedat wrote:
looks like gtrsrs is scum, and only because you claimed medic does not mean you are a confirmed medic. On Drazerk analyzing me, the first few posts we did was simply to start a discussion, how that is incriminating is beyond me.
Second of all, being one if the first persons to vote for someon is not "jumping on a bandwagon."
Third of all, if you are town how is changing my vote áway from you scummy in any way?
Also, if you think gtrsrs is town why is it scummy to change my vote from him. If he is the medic I would be stupid to vote for him. The other 2 options were you and appruds. In my eyes you were clear, so I had the choice between a claimed medic someone I thought was town and a more scummy player. Of course I vote for the person that is most scummiest to protect our medic. Voting for someone totally different to get the focus away from me would be the scummy way to play.
Please town, think for yourself and don't let yourself be led by mafia to an early grave.
It is entierly possible that Drazerk and gtrsrs are mafia and do this all to get town cred, but I think it is more probable that only gtrsrs or none of them is mafia. Note this: " Please town, think for yourself and don't let yourself be led by mafia to an early grave." .... third person... Well I don't know, I might be wrong, but I think he meant: "You idiots, I didn't act suspicious at all." Also this: + Show Spoiler +On June 21 2011 02:53 Xedat wrote:
So who is mafia in your book gtrsrs? Accusing everyone? You said that between Xedat, Drazerk, CjrNinja and appruds there are 100% percent 3 mafioso. And now suddenly Pyo is mafia too?
Why don't you say anything about appruds?
Lets face it people, gtrsrs is very scummy, take everything he says with a grain of salt and don't just believe him. Also this one. "you call me scum? You are scum yourself!" All in all, Xedat is the most obvious choice even more than Drazerk and gtrsrs. I am not sure about both. They were both under heavy pressure and posted some suspicious/strange things...
##vote: Xedat
I also would be really glad if someone could sum up the accuses against gtrsrs, that are still valid. He was accused of being too passive. Explanation for that would be, that he is our medic. Does someone have something real against him, or are his "voters" just scum that wants to create a suspicious situation around him by just voting him and claiming he's scum, hoping for a bandwagon? Pyo please, you seem pretty reasonable. Don't take this game too personal. You have to stay focussed.
Work something out, and don't be just pissed about the fact, that gtrsrs wasn't lynched at day1.
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