TL Mafia XXVIII - Page 22

On July 18 2010 23:49 XeliN wrote:
Actually scrap that, I've just gone over your posts individually Youngminii and your coming across so scummy to me. You argue everyone to abstain on the first day, or vote for someone that is going to be killed anyway. That directly helps mafia, and further reduces any information that we could have going into Day 2

you've also tried to directly influence what any blues in the game do on the first day

and instead of addressing the points infundulum makes against you, you flip reverse it and accuse him of being Red.
Remove vote Vote youngminii

On July 18 2010 21:24 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
i really should refresh before i post, since i missed your last post when i was writing mine.

anyway your defense up there only addresses 1 thing that BC and citizen pointed out, which was the initial sentence. maybe you were joking (a reasonable explanation, i do admit, and i read it that way at first for what it's worth), maybe you weren't.

but what about asking the already answered questions? what about obvious blue advice that any blue knows?

what about telling the town it's a good idea to abstain? (it's not)

citizen didn't say that you weren't strong as i saw it, rather he said those kinds of mistakes were not something he would expect from you.

see, this is why i wrote that "just in case," since i know i'm not gonna be here my vote has a chance of being useless so i'm taking a gambit with a person that i think could be a lynch target as the night deadline rolls around. i knew you would come and have something to say; obviously just not this soon (sooner than me lol). sorry, but you haven't convinced me to move my vote.

On July 18 2010 21:46 youngminii wrote:
There was only one thing that they did point out and that's the only thing that was directed at me, hence I responded to it.

Obvious blue advice? Really? Do you honestly believe that all 30 people in this thread know exactly how to play blue? Do you really think that each and every new person in here knows how to play their role perfectly? So in the case of all 30 people knowing the exact way to play without any discussions as to any plans we should just leave it at that and not discuss our options? You can't be that stupid, I refuse to believe it.
Also, what already answered questions? Back up your statements with evidence please.

How is telling the town to abstain not a good idea? I'm willing to accept criticism of my ideas, but I'm not willing to just sit back and watch as someone comes in, votes for me as a placeholder in case a bandwagon is formed on me (which I suppose is pre-emptive bandwagoning) and then says my ideas are not good. Information Instead of Analysis. In fact, IIoA is a big scumtell in my experiences in other mafia sites (not sure about TL since this site is actually quite a lot different).

I never said citi.zen said I was good. In fact, I implied citi.zen said I was quite bad. I don't critique citi.zen's play because as far as I can tell, people seem to believe his meta is good but if he continues to critique me, so be it. I don't care.

Your 'just in case' is the same as bandwagoning, except you're doing it early. You think there might be a chance that people will start voting for me so you put your vote on me 'just in case'. Biggest hidden form of bandwagoning imo.

My conclusion: You're either a really bad scum, really bad townie, or a fucking bad blue.

##Bote infundibulum

On July 18 2010 23:13 citi.zen wrote:
youngminii, you seem to have a lot of trouble reading a simple statement so let me clarify it for you: you did well last game, hence I think you are a pretty good player. I never implied otherwise.

On July 19 2010 01:19 Divinek wrote:
hm @BC when you ask for my reason for voting for hyperbola it is clearly stated in my post voting for him lol, beyond that it forced him to post what one more time? for a grand total of 2 posts? id still call that almost inactive, so while we have people with 0 posts i figure getting a few extra votes in him for pressure is good for information when he makes such a stupid post

sure it could likely be a bad townie just throwing around baseless accusations but it could also be a retarded red just doing something without thinking.

So im kinda worried that either BC doesnt know how to read or he's playing very sketchy to me and overly defending someone with two posts who has made them both pretty poorly?

and then tree hugger goes on again to say we had no reason blah blah i could say we have a reason and look i didnt post any substance either.

i gave valid justification for my vote, which has probably more backing than most votes in this thread. He's the best target for me since he's been just active enough to be considered not inactive and his initial posts were retarded, i usually find that to be good enough for the RVS.

i think that even if he ends up town based on the quality and lack of his posts so far it'd be better for town if he died anyway, i havent seen to much in the light of better candidates yet

but when you guys vote for people ill be sure to not quote the reason and say you had no reason too

On July 19 2010 01:33 Pandain wrote:


Well I think BC is just being cautios, that's all. I mean he did bring up a good point(intentionally or unintentionally) in that Opz could very well be more mafia-esque than Hyperbola. However, now one of the reasons I am sticking with Hyperbola is that I don't want Darth hanged lol

On July 18 2010 13:09 Divinek wrote:


why is it dumb

On July 18 2010 13:57 Divinek wrote:


but WHY was it ridiculous, WHY was it not smart, WHY were the reasons dumb. You might as well have not posted as there was no substance to what you just said

On July 18 2010 15:29 Divinek wrote:
How is voting for some one cause of a long , useful post defending himself pretty well? He said in other games he has been quiet but that doesnt mean that shit is gonna fly here. And he didnt really say why someone who makes a long post is a scum or anything.

I dont feel he really defended himself well at all

On July 19 2010 02:06 Hyperbola wrote:
Alright guys take a breather... sheesh.

Especially you Divinek:




You seem pretty adamant about accusing me for like a quick post I made a while back.
Look dude, I'll spill the beans, my post against Sinequity wasn't serious. I still can't believe you haven't caught on to that by now. I accuse him for making a long post just for fun and I also didn't feel like abstaining. I also like being quiet and examining things behind the lines. What you're gonna crucify me every game for not posting often?
I'm keeping my vote on Sinequity as a placeholder, mmkay?

On July 19 2010 01:34 Amber[LighT] wrote:
###vote youngminii
if I have to trust someone I trust xelin. I'm going to follow his decisions till the end of the day at least.

Sorry got to the game early so I read some posts :D

On July 19 2010 02:06 Hyperbola wrote:
You seem pretty adamant about accusing me for like a quick post I made a while back.
Look dude, I'll spill the beans, my post against Sinequity wasn't serious. I still can't believe you haven't caught on to that by now. I accuse him for making a long post just for fun and I also didn't feel like abstaining. I also like being quiet and examining things behind the lines. What you're gonna crucify me every game for not posting often?
I'm keeping my vote on Sinequity as a placeholder, mmkay?

On July 19 2010 02:24 citi.zen wrote:
The "OMG if you voted for hyperbola you have some explaining to do" post strikes me as the kind of thing that will sidetrack discussion for a long time. I don't like it.