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~OpZ~
United States3652 Posts
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lakrismamma
Sweden543 Posts
On July 18 2010 15:29 Divinek wrote: How is voting for some one cause of a long , useful post defending himself pretty well? He said in other games he has been quiet but that doesnt mean that shit is gonna fly here. And he didnt really say why someone who makes a long post is a scum or anything. I dont feel he really defended himself well at all You are right. It was not a good defence I should have explained myself. It is just that I feel that a mafia wouldnt play that way. mafia would lay low with his many inactives they can easily hide. He is probably just a bad townplayer. Well I guess we could lynch him for beeing that. But I rather pick another inactive. I change my vote should have looked over the alternatives more carefully laxer has actually made a couple of posts. ##unvote LaxerCannon ##vote Subversion | ||
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citi.zen
2509 Posts
On July 18 2010 12:55 youngminii wrote: Oh yeah I totally forgot lynching an inactive is exactly the same as abstaining. Heh, obvious lack of logic in my plans. I am more concerned with this: On July 18 2010 09:48 youngminii wrote: What, why am I included in a scum list  Anyways, I've been spamming Starcraft 2 all night and I'm dead tired but since we haven't really moved out of RVS it looks like I haven't missed out on much. I have a question for BM. What happens if everyone votes to abstain? If the answer is a no lynch, then I suggest everyone change their votes to abstain for the first day. A no lynch (in my experience) on the first day is generally beneficial to town in a standard-ish setup. We'll also get all the modkills out of the way which will narrow down the list of potential scum. I especially do not want to accidentally go and lynch a blue role, that'd be horrible. In fact, I have another question (I may have just missed this in the OP), are roles flipped upon death? I'd assume so but I just want to make sure. Just for some pre-emptive planning for the night: DTs check 'good' players, especially players that are unlikely to go inactive. Medics should protect whoever they want, generally you'd want to protect the person that seems the most towny and frequently posts. Of course, if you feel that you should be doing something else, you should trust your instincts. Re-read BC's post to see what that list is really about. In fact, your entire post is a mess - asking about stuff that was already covered, pretending to give useful advice to the blues and so on. I can't say I've played a lot with you, but based on last game these sort of mistakes are not that common from you. | ||
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citi.zen
2509 Posts
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7875 Posts
You all who voted for hyperbola have a huuuuuuge amount of explaining to do, also heres the list for the rest to see yet again. Misder, Divinek, Pandain, Zeks, SiNiquity Misder was basically counter voting, and siniquity I believe was "placehold" voting, the rest of you explain why you voted now, or DT's should check your first. for fishy/terrible play. On July 18 2010 09:48 youngminii wrote: What, why am I included in a scum list Anyways, I've been spamming Starcraft 2 all night and I'm dead tired but since we haven't really moved out of RVS it looks like I haven't missed out on much. I have a question for BM. What happens if everyone votes to abstain? If the answer is a no lynch, then I suggest everyone change their votes to abstain for the first day. A no lynch (in my experience) on the first day is generally beneficial to town in a standard-ish setup. We'll also get all the modkills out of the way which will narrow down the list of potential scum. I especially do not want to accidentally go and lynch a blue role, that'd be horrible. In fact, I have another question (I may have just missed this in the OP), are roles flipped upon death? I'd assume so but I just want to make sure. Your not on a list of scum, your on a list of people to watch out for. After your performance last game I have you as a more top tier level player, and thus more scrutiny should be on you. Your total misconception of what I was trying to get across is something I would not expect from you, expecially based on your solid play last game. On July 18 2010 15:34 ~OpZ~ wrote: Actually....I'm done for this....Let me read a little more and we'll see who I want to die.... Also, I'm tired of these idiotic plans. We can pm. Dt, check someone PM them, pass turn, check someone PM them and the other person, pass turn. Quit playing like idiots and realize the benefits of having PMs....Nubby ass mafioso. And go back and look at games with PM's day one, no body does anything that day... The best thing I could say is everyone Roleclaim to me, and lynch me today...Or wait til tomorrow and do it. I'd inform of match ups, over counts, and die out as proof. How does that sound? I can send the PM out, and inform before death of everyone who doesn't respond, over counts of roles, ect. ect. I could be checked night one if that would be a problem, (wouldn't recommend organized multi checking though) and lynched day 2. Even if I was god father, god father would be out and too many blues to snipe with a list of roles and over claims. *yawn* But I don't really wanna die too bad, or abuse how easy this game could be. .... You are one of most retarded players I have seen. No singular check is confirmed (blue or green) until the GF is dead. THE dt should almost never claim, unless he can prove the validity of the person he checked. Chances are if he finds a green he can communicate to them (never roleclaim), but blues should be treated almost as if they were red until the GF dies. No one should stupidly claim to anyone untop of that as pm circles are too easily infiltrated and names + roles revealed. PM's are extremely advantage if used correctly, but do not randomly start claiming to people until you have proven them legit town. Seriously people, wtf. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7875 Posts
##unvote ##vote pandain You get the vote as the third - fourth voter of most bandwagons turns out to be red. Convince me your legit, or stop being retarded and ill move my vote. | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
gg 1-1 skt! | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7875 Posts
BM and I are talking about proleague + Show Spoiler + On July 18 2010 16:05 Bill Murray wrote: gg 1-1 skt! stop spoiling proleague in a mafia game. | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
Vote Count: 5] Hyperbola (Misder, Divinek, Pandain, Zeks, SiNiquity) 2] DarthThienAn (d3_crescentia, citi.zen) 1] Amber[LighT] (jayme), 1] d3_crescentia (darthThienAn), 1] citi.zen (rastaban) 1] chaoser (~opz~) 1] Divinek (bumatlarge) 1] SiNiquity (Hyperbola) 1] Subversion (lakrismamma) 1] Pandain (BC) 7] abstain (LaXerCannon, youngminii, tricode, Pyrrhuloxia, Roffles, SouthRawrea, Foolishness) Not voting and in risk of modkill: 8] brownbear, chaoser, xelin, Amber[LighT], Infundibulum, Subversion, ketomai, tree.hugger | ||
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LaXerCannon
Canada558 Posts
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~OpZ~
United States3652 Posts
-_- I have never liked your writing style from any game. From my perspective it makes perfect sense BC. But I guess it would only make sense to me....Lolz | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7875 Posts
On July 18 2010 16:13 ~OpZ~ wrote: ##Vote BC -_- I have never liked your writing style from any game. From my perspective it makes perfect sense BC. But I guess it would only make sense to me....Lolz Dude, your asking people to blind trust a rolecheck. Until the GF dies, you cannot do so. A DT can only safely claim on such few circumstances, or take an insane leap of faith and hope it pays off. You then ask dts to check you in essence for you to be that person they claim to. Its most likely just a stupid move on your part, but comes off as bad play. That sort of style isn't something I'd trust if I were a DT nor should the DT's who are playing. Liking or Disliking my style has nothing to do with you telling people to do something incredibly dumb. I can honestly see where your coming from with what you were saying, but wasn't a good plan. The way in to check people not so bad, claiming outright, bad. | ||
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Infundibulum
United States2552 Posts
here's the thing that you guys need to realize that some other people have already pointed out: 1. No lynch (all abstain) is anti town and allows mafia to eke out a lynch on a green 2. RNG lynch is only slightly less bad with a higher chance hitting a blue than a red 3. We should be using our day 1 lynch to kill someone who is being STUPID. This way we either kill a stupid townie (a burden) or a stupid mafia (yay!) 4. Don't PM Opz. | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
On July 18 2010 16:02 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Actually, until those 5 people explain themselves. ##unvote ##vote pandain You get the vote as the third - fourth voter of most bandwagons turns out to be red. Convince me your legit, or stop being retarded and ill move my vote. Aww . I had unvoted you too.You see, I had originally voted you but wasn't completely sure. What Sinquity said about Hyperola I found persuasive. His first post is accusing Sinquity of being Mafia based on the sole fact his post was long. Now, what more of a baseless accusation can there be? Now I'm new here, but I found that deeply disturbing when it had been pointed out. Now, after 4 of us have voted against him, what does he do? Hrm. Exactly what scum would do. Starting a bandwagon against me when I've accused one of their operatives. Here he is, still trying to accuse poor Sinquity of being a mafia based on his original "evidence" of "His post was too long." I just find his actions all in all highly questionable, and at the very least want such a baseless accusing person out of the game. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7875 Posts
On July 18 2010 16:17 Pandain wrote: Aww . I had unvoted you too.You see, I had originally voted you but wasn't completely sure. What Sinquity said about Hyperola I found persuasive. His first post is accusing Sinquity of being Mafia based on the sole fact his post was long. Now, what more of a baseless accusation can there be? Now I'm new here, but I found that deeply disturbing when it had been pointed out. Now, after 4 of us have voted against him, what does he do? Here he is, still trying to accuse poor Sinquity of being a mafia based on his original "evidence" of "His post was too long." I just find his actions all in all highly questionable, and at the very least want such a baseless accusing person out of the game. Thing is, he did call someone out, which explains why that person voted him, it also could explain another person voting for him. BUT 5 people total voting for someone based on day 1 activity on a weekend with little to no real discussion going on makes a bandwagon insanely bad idea. IF he flips town, those original bandwagoners are going to get owned by town for the bad play, or ignored all game for being stupid and potentially lose us said game. I appreciate where you are coming from, and well, its not bad in principle and if this had been posted day 2 or after I would fully endorse the action, but bandwagons day 1 are insanely anti town, especially when based on such a lack of information to discuss. | ||
tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On July 18 2010 13:57 Divinek wrote: but WHY was it ridiculous, WHY was it not smart, WHY were the reasons dumb. You might as well have not posted as there was no substance to what you just said Because there were no reasons. Hell, did you even look to see what Hyperbola did to make himself so suspicious? Because he didn't do anything, and that's what I call playing stupidly. On July 18 2010 16:02 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Actually, until those 5 people explain themselves. ##unvote ##vote pandain You get the vote as the third - fourth voter of most bandwagons turns out to be red. Convince me your legit, or stop being retarded and ill move my vote. I think, as Divinek is busy proving, these fine gentlemen were voting for Hyperbola for no reason whatsoever. They're all pretty new players, and I'm not convinced that's a list we're likely to find mafia on. I'd rather work with inactivity. Bedtime now. CJ fighting! | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
On July 18 2010 16:21 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Thing is, he did call someone out, which explains why that person voted him, it also could explain another person voting for him. BUT 5 people total voting for someone based on day 1 activity on a weekend with little to no real discussion going on makes a bandwagon insanely bad idea. IF he flips town, those original bandwagoners are going to get owned by town for the bad play, or ignored all game for being stupid and potentially lose us said game. I appreciate where you are coming from, and well, its not bad in principle and if this had been posted day 2 or after I would fully endorse the action, but bandwagons day 1 are insanely anti town, especially when based on such a lack of information to discuss. Hmm good point, and I see where you are coming from. Point of information though, I believe I was only the 3rd person who voted for hyperbola. In fact, I had missed the original post calling out Hyperola and only when the other guy quoted it did I see it, find it reasonable, and decide to change my vote. However, I still find his statements to be at the very least questionable, and to quote a more expirenced than I mafia member: On July 18 2010 16:16 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: 3. We should be using our day 1 lynch to kill someone who is being STUPID. This way we either kill a stupid townie (a burden) or a stupid mafia (yay!) . If you could provide sufficient persuasion arguing in favor of being ultra cautious and countering his statement, I would consider changing my mind to abstaining. | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
Vote Count: 5] Hyperbola (Misder, Divinek, Pandain, Zeks, SiNiquity) 2] DarthThienAn (d3_crescentia, citi.zen) 1] Amber[LighT] (jayme), 1] d3_crescentia (darthThienAn), 1] citi.zen (rastaban) 1] BC (~opz~) 1] Divinek (bumatlarge) 1] SiNiquity (Hyperbola) 1] Subversion (lakrismamma) 1] Pandain (BC) 1] LaXerCannon (tree.hugger) 7] abstain (LaXerCannon, youngminii, tricode, Pyrrhuloxia, Roffles, SouthRawrea, Foolishness) Not voting and in risk of modkill: 7] brownbear, chaoser, xelin, Amber[LighT], Infundibulum, Subversion, ketomai | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
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