I feel like Heimer probably has a place in some coordinated team comps, but the problem with Heimer is that if you make him good in soloqueue you realize that holy shit this champ is the least fun champ ever to play against and you kill the fun for at least 50% of the players in the game.

sRapers_ValkS

United States644 Posts

June 01 2011 23:35 GMT

#23

On June 02 2011 08:22 unichan wrote:
GP is op, his ultimate helps out by slowing people and dealing a little extra damage, pretty bad still but once he has many item he is the most OP shit

honestly the bottom 3 (10, 9, 8) are there because i couldn't think of 3 more and i never see them played so i never see them do well.

Goshawk.

United Kingdom5338 Posts

June 02 2011 00:46 GMT

#24

On June 02 2011 08:28 Zanzabar Haberdasher wrote:

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They're are horribly outclassed, in my opinion. Gragas can be useful in some comps but why not just play Cho?

Well, ye most of the time they aren't going to be as good as your top tier AP casters (malz, swain, tf, vlad, etc.) but they are still good enough. Gragas is built like any other AP caster basically and isn't rly like cho at all.

Useless/bad champs imo:
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10. Tyrn- Okay I needed 10 champs, and at least this guy sucks against anyone competent.
9. Ball woman-Not even played her lolol, but apparently she is pretty bad. AP caster with no good cc is meh.
8. Cass- too squishy amongst other things.
7. GP
6. Twitch-as fun as invis is he's pretty bad.
5. Panth- too many nerfs make a sad spartan.
4. Kat- I ulti and die gg.
3. Karma-sucks
2. Kayle- wtf is this champ supposed to do.
1. Fiddle- just terrible.

HazMat

United States17077 Posts

June 02 2011 00:50 GMT

#25

I think Trynd is fine where he is atm, maybe even a bit too strong.

Goshawk.

United Kingdom5338 Posts

June 02 2011 00:54 GMT

#26

Ya, tyrn is 100% fine but I couldn't think of anyone else to put there lol. At least tyrn is never seen in serious games. >_>

Carnivorous Sheep

Baa?21247 Posts

June 02 2011 01:13 GMT

#27

On June 02 2011 08:22 Zanzabar Haberdasher wrote:

edit edit: Galio.

AP Galio carries games brah.

I miss when his Ult had imba ratios and damage though, AP Galio so much more fun back then xD

ShoreT

United States489 Posts

June 02 2011 01:22 GMT

#28

Honestly, why haven't they buff'd Cassiopeia's ult range yet. Adding like 100 or 150 would make her somewhat viable. Right now she has to be in melee range to use it.

UniversalSnip

9871 Posts

June 02 2011 04:09 GMT

#29

top 10 champs people diss or don't really consider but seem pretty good to me... in alphabetical order

1) Karma
2) Kennen
3) Morgana
4) Poppy
5) Rumble
6) Sivir
7) Shaco
8) Shen
9) Trundle
10) Malphite

HazMat

United States17077 Posts

June 02 2011 04:18 GMT

#30

Top 10 es good champ design!
10. Tryndamere
9. Swain
8. Singed
7. Malzahar
6. Karthus
5. LeBlanc
4. Vladimir
3. Vayne
2. Evelynn
1. Poppy

unichan

United States4223 Posts

June 02 2011 04:19 GMT

#31

top 10 twelve year olds who play this game
10 unichan
9 unichan
8 unichan
7 unichan
6 unichan
5 unichan
4 unichan
3 unichan
2 unichan
1 unichan

but srsly, karma is pretty good. Super imba shield and super damage on shit but she's just kind of hard to play and takes farm and stuff

[Agony]x90

United States853 Posts

June 02 2011 04:36 GMT

#32

Once you get used to Karma, she's really not that hard. Her shield is her big hitter. It reverses a lot of fights. You can drop it on your initiate or on your carry if your carry is being targeted. If you have a lot of AP, it does close to a 1000 hp swing (500 dmg and a 500 shield), and this only gets better the more enemy champs that get caught in it. the CD on her Q is extremely low and does a substantial amount of damage in an AoE, and if you want to, you can heal your team, making it yet again another swinger spell.

Chasing a Karma is just awful. She basically has infinite survivability so long as the chasing party can't burst through 700 or so hp or if they can't catch up to you, which is what her W is for. R + tether just puts way too much distance between you, and in every bush you can R + shield, Q and then tether again. The temporary shield is more than enough usually to keep you alive and you can keep running along with your W again. If they keep chasing, rinse and repeat.

I think she's a great champ that's not really that hard at all once you find a good rhythm, but I think her greatest down fall is how much farm she needs. Farming is a joke on her with how much burst you have, but you're ultimately stealing farm from the carries on your team.

Slayer91

Ireland23379 Posts

June 02 2011 05:46 GMT

#33

On June 02 2011 08:07 sRapers_ValkS wrote:

9. Udyr - BEARSTANCE would be scary if everyone didn't carry flash + exhaust. he's fun to play but why to pick him over ww and shit?

Seriously

Kaneh

Canada737 Posts

June 02 2011 07:29 GMT

#34

in every situation where you pick karma, you could've picked a couple champs that are better. usually quite a lot better for whatever you're trying to do. so while she's not unplayable, she's still shit.

locodoco

Korea (South)1615 Posts

June 02 2011 09:21 GMT

#35

my favorite champ from each "class"
I like champions that represent that class stereotype well, so champions like swain for casters or nunu for jungle doesn't really appeal to me, also I prefer champs with simple and unique designs with elementary spells that can be used in creative ways. Also the more underrated and underplayed the champion is,the more they appeal to me. ^^

casters - Leblanc

carry - Ashe

jungle - Olaf

support - Soraka

tank - Singed

explanations inc

NeoIllusions

United States37500 Posts

June 02 2011 09:34 GMT

#36

On June 02 2011 18:21 locodoco wrote:
my favorite champ from each "class"
I like champions that represent that class stereotype well, so champions like swain for casters or nunu for jungle doesn't really appeal to me, also I prefer champs with simple and unique designs with elementary spells that can be used in creative ways. Also the more underrated and underplayed the champion is,the more they appeal to me. ^^

casters - Leblanc

carry - Ashe

jungle - Olaf

support - Soraka

tank - Singed

explanations inc

Casters: Vlad
Carry: Caitlyn
Jungle: Nocturne
Support: Soraka
Tank: Cho'Gath

dnastyx

United States2707 Posts

June 02 2011 09:55 GMT

#37

Also the more underrated and underplayed the champion is,the more they appeal to me. ^^

carry - Ashe

Slayer91

Ireland23379 Posts

June 02 2011 11:09 GMT

#38

On June 02 2011 08:28 Zanzabar Haberdasher wrote:

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They're are horribly outclassed, in my opinion. Gragas can be useful in some comps but why not just play Cho?

Show nested quote +

Yiruru numbah won Sivir

Gragas ultimate? He is one of the king pokers/anti initiators.

Iplaythings

Denmark9110 Posts

June 02 2011 11:15 GMT

#39

Characters fun to play but people suck at them:
1: Nidalee
2: Leblanc
3: Pantheon
4: Mundo
5: Shaco
Seriously, havent seen a good leblanc in ages who could do something without going 5-0 in laning phase.

freelander

Hungary4707 Posts

June 02 2011 11:17 GMT

#40

top 10 tits list by their default skin splash art

10) karma (she is the most unattractive after soraka, it's a shame i couldnt do a top 10 without her)
9) irelia (flat is flat, but fit girls are usually flat. they are not bad)
8) lux (at least they wont hang in 15 years ok??)
7) eve (if just they werent blue)
6) janna
5) leblanc (a shame she looks so weird)
4) katarina (the new splash art brought her up on this list)
3) morgana (she caused severe problems for many cosplayer girls with her almost unmatchable boobage)
2) MF (you can see her struggle to keep em in place with that top)
1) sona (what did you expect)

soraka go away