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On August 04 2011 03:02 spinesheath wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2011 02:51 Two_DoWn wrote: Morg is stupid good now that the current trend is 4 squishies and a tanky dps. She hits like a truck with her ult, her shield is still really good, and her snare is awesome if you can hit it. Im convinced she is gonna be stupid op with the buffs. Eh when there are 4 squishies (read: a ton of burst/DPS), then I don't really see Morg doing too much with her ultimate considering that her enemies have like 2 seconds to burst her down before it really does anything, and Morg conveniently places herself right between everyone if she wants to hult more than 1 person. Yeah we Germans like long sentences. That's what zonyas is for. Problem is I don't see her win mid against most champs and when you play her as support she sucks and won't have the money to buy any ap items, well we will see after the buffs, but IIRC it was mostly her MS and attack animation.
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On August 04 2011 06:22 Xedat wrote: That's what zonyas is for. Problem is I don't see her win mid against most champs and when you play her as support she sucks and won't have the money to buy any ap items, well we will see after the buffs, but IIRC it was mostly her MS and attack animation. I think she's a fair option against someone like WW or Udyr top lane tbh. Both of them have trouble engaging on her through E and Q respectively, she has decent sustain through her passive, and past level 5, she just straight up outpushes them and forces them to lose cs on tower because neither of them are very good at counterpushing her.
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she's pretty damn good in lane, you need a straight up dash or it's very dangerous to approach her/harass her
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You really should place Wukong very high in the trolling list, have had great success
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On August 04 2011 06:44 UniversalSnip wrote: she's pretty damn good in lane, you need a straight up dash or it's very dangerous to approach her/harass her She does well against the sustain dudes like WW and Udyr, but I'd point out that she'll probably have a rough time against champs that can make strong trades simply because if you ever miss Q, trading a round of spells with anyone is probably a losing exchange for you because W+autos won't do enough damage.
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On August 04 2011 06:56 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2011 06:44 UniversalSnip wrote: she's pretty damn good in lane, you need a straight up dash or it's very dangerous to approach her/harass her She does well against the sustain dudes like WW and Udyr, but I'd point out that she'll probably have a rough time against champs that can make strong trades simply because if you ever miss Q, trading a round of spells with anyone is probably a losing exchange for you because W+autos won't do enough damage.
give me a few example champs... are you thinking like mf, annie?
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On August 04 2011 07:27 UniversalSnip wrote: give me a few example champs... are you thinking like mf, annie? Jarvan was the biggest one I was thinking of. Damages you through E, and hard for you to push damage if he's not stupid because even if you land Q, he can EQ out of it onto you.
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yeah can't see anyone beating that lol. generally she has a hard time vs melee heroes that can dash directly onto her, xin for example is pretty good vs morgana in my experience. On the other hand if they're just really fast like udyr or singed she trashes them, and every ranged hero I can think of she does well against.
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On August 04 2011 07:32 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2011 07:27 UniversalSnip wrote: give me a few example champs... are you thinking like mf, annie? Jarvan was the biggest one I was thinking of. Damages you through E, and hard for you to push damage if he's not stupid because even if you land Q, he can EQ out of it onto you. He'd do more damage with Q than E.
Smash was talking other day on stream about meta shifting to counter jarman's strong top laning, and I was trying to think of any champions that still really hardcounter jarman in top.... I can see Udyr/Yorick doing well cause of their super sustain, and maybe I can see a pusher like Malz if he's good enough to avoid trades.
Couldn't really think of much else. I outlane 1v2 a lot of the time at my elo as jarman, when I can convince people to let me take top.
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Can i get lists for Items? (trolliest/ best)
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On August 04 2011 08:42 HyperionDreamer wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2011 07:32 TheYango wrote:On August 04 2011 07:27 UniversalSnip wrote: give me a few example champs... are you thinking like mf, annie? Jarvan was the biggest one I was thinking of. Damages you through E, and hard for you to push damage if he's not stupid because even if you land Q, he can EQ out of it onto you. He'd do more damage with Q than E. I meant "do damage through E" as in he doesn't care about Morgana's E.
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Rugfeeder's Favorite Items (when he's not feelin' the srsness) 10) Hexdrinker Trinity Force More Warmogs 9) Trinity Force 8) Atma's Impaler 7] Stack Items, especially Leviathan 6) More than one Bloodthirster 5) Warmogs 4) Force of Nature 3) Leviathan 3( Tiamat 2) Shurelya's/Ghostblade 1) Phantom Dancer (multiple
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On August 04 2011 12:43 Tooplark wrote: Rugfeeder's Favorite Items (when he's not feelin' the srsness) 10) Hexdrinker Trinity Force More Warmogs 9) Trinity Force 8) Atma's Impaler 7] Stack Items, especially Leviathan 6) More than one Bloodthirster 5) Warmogs 4) Force of Nature 3) Leviathan 3( Tiamat 2) Shurelya's/Ghostblade 1) Phantom Dancer (multiple best build = 5 bloodthirster + boots 5, then sell boots 5 for 6 bloodthirster.
no joke
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Scintered's Top Ten Duo Lanes (for trulling with buddies):
10. MUNDO/TRYN - Maximum MAN, MAXIMUM SLOW, HUGE domination (probs end up feeding but ggnpWebigPecs)
9. Garen/Wukong - Double spin OP ggrmk.
8. Heim/Cait - Fortress craft in the brush, 2xTurrents, 3xTrapz -> 15xTeh Pawn.
7. Maokai/Xin - Es always First Blood, always dive always kill sometimes die (actual legit lane lol, at least for shitty 1.7k elo)
6. Zilean/Eve - How duh my hp g0ne???11?
5. Garen/Zilean - Spin+Speed+Revive-->speedyspinningbombman->Demacia2manly
4. Janna/Sona - Always shield So much Kite 2gud Deeps n healz
3. Soraka/Yi - Lul I meditate in ur face + so much healz what do?
2. Shaco/Teemo - come gank us yo!
1. Note: Inb4 new fotm LaneLaf+Taric - Stun->Axes->Axes->Axes->Axes->Axes o.O?
Edit: Manamune olaf ultra freaking legit.
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Top ten champions that I would go out drinking with. 10. Lee Sin (He went blind from drinking moon shine all day erry day) 9. Jarman (His father's the king we'd problebly get a ton of free shit) 8. Shaco (He's a jester, and better be able to make you laugh your ass off) 7. Gangplank (He's a pirate, nuff said) 6. Nunu (This guy is like a walking ice machine) 5. Singed (This guy has a giant bottle on his back ffs) 4. Nidalee (Who wouldn't go out drinking with a cougar?) 3. Gragis (This guy brings a keg with him everywhere) 2. Miss Fortune (I could see her getting drunk and dancing on tables) 1. Brolaf (Bro)
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On August 04 2011 21:10 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2011 12:43 Tooplark wrote: Rugfeeder's Favorite Items (when he's not feelin' the srsness) 10) Hexdrinker Trinity Force More Warmogs 9) Trinity Force 8) Atma's Impaler 7] Stack Items, especially Leviathan 6) More than one Bloodthirster 5) Warmogs 4) Force of Nature 3) Leviathan 3( Tiamat 2) Shurelya's/Ghostblade 1) Phantom Dancer (multiple best build = 5 bloodthirster + boots 5, then sell boots 5 for 6 bloodthirster. no joke
sell boots 5 for guardian angel so that if they strike you down you become more powerful than they could possibly imagine.
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On August 04 2011 10:06 Kenpachi wrote: Can i get lists for Items? (trolliest/ best)
best items in game
1) Boots 1
No dispute, really silly to put anything else here
2) Health potions
I think these are better than they should be, pretty ridiculous how strong they are early and mid game
3) Wards
Their existence has more impact on the way the game plays than hp pots but I don't feel they're as useful per point of gold spent as the first two
4) Doran's Blade
Can't really avoid these on ad heroes, gives the correct stats in extremely generous amounts
5) Oracles
Necessary counter to wards
6) Doran's Ring
Same as blade but for spellcasters
Everything else I feel is pretty fair, actually the first time I think I've felt this way about the items. they're much more balanced than they used to be
as far as worst item 100% it's nashors.
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3) Wards 3) Doran's Blade
Wit's End should follow soon after, along with IE. Other candidates are Brutalizer, Chain Mail and Negatron Cloak.
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On August 07 2011 19:00 spinesheath wrote: 3) Wards 3) Doran's Blade
Wit's End should follow soon after, along with IE. Other candidates are Brutalizer, Chain Mail and Negatron Cloak.
wups
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Best item is HextechGunblade. the world just isn't ready to realize its awesomeness.
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