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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36390 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-30 17:31:01
February 22 2004 16:10 GMT
#21
Americans lost:

Revolutionary War (until France started helping)
Civil War (technicality)
War of 1812
Korean War (by the Chinese)
Vietnam War

A bunch of minor ones like Bay of Pigs invasion (Cuba), Nicaragua, Haiti, etc. There are many.

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After)Eight(
Profile Joined March 2003
Germany502 Posts
February 22 2004 16:13 GMT
#22
On February 23 2004 00:32 PanoRaMa wrote:
Vietnam war

Well I'm not good in History so I don't know if we truly lost. Still though, we lost way too many soldiers which wasn't good.


america lost this war. but actually it wasnt a war, it only was a "conflict", formally...
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
February 22 2004 16:21 GMT
#23
On February 23 2004 01:10 Hot_Bid wrote:
Americans lost:

Revolutionary War (until France started helping)
Civil War (technicality)
War of 1812
Korean War (by the Chinese)
Vietnam War

A bunch of minor ones like Bay of Pigs invasion (Cuba), Nicaragua, Haiti, etc. There are many.


What the fuck are you talking about? Do some research before you post bullshit, man.
DV8
Profile Joined December 2002
United States1623 Posts
February 22 2004 16:21 GMT
#24
On February 23 2004 00:48 SillyCat wrote:
Vietnam was not a winnable war. We could not fight to our full capacity. Many of the airstrikes that shouldve taken place on cambodian dams, etc didn't happen because we were afraid of China getting involved.


Finally someone with some insight on why the vietnam war went on for 19 some odd years.
DV8
Profile Joined December 2002
United States1623 Posts
February 22 2004 16:23 GMT
#25
On February 23 2004 01:10 Hot_Bid wrote:
Americans lost:

Revolutionary War (until France started helping)
Civil War (technicality)
War of 1812
Korean War (by the Chinese)
Vietnam War

A bunch of minor ones like Bay of Pigs invasion (Cuba), Nicaragua, Haiti, etc. There are many.


Um the korean war isn't over. Bay of pigs was a CIA operation.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
February 22 2004 16:24 GMT
#26
On February 23 2004 01:13 After)Eight( wrote:
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On February 23 2004 00:32 PanoRaMa wrote:
Vietnam war

Well I'm not good in History so I don't know if we truly lost. Still though, we lost way too many soldiers which wasn't good.


america lost this war. but actually it wasnt a war, it only was a "conflict", formally...

no.. it was a war.
DV8
Profile Joined December 2002
United States1623 Posts
February 22 2004 16:27 GMT
#27
On February 23 2004 01:24 travis wrote:
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On February 23 2004 01:13 After)Eight( wrote:
On February 23 2004 00:32 PanoRaMa wrote:
Vietnam war

Well I'm not good in History so I don't know if we truly lost. Still though, we lost way too many soldiers which wasn't good.


america lost this war. but actually it wasnt a war, it only was a "conflict", formally...

no.. it was a war.


Actually I am not too sure as to which "brush fire war" this may apply too although Im inclined to say it was vietnam, Well anyhow the war was never really official.
Hautamaki
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Canada1311 Posts
February 22 2004 16:28 GMT
#28
America tied the Korean war. America wanted one capitalist Korea, China wanted one communist Korea. In the end they settled on 2 Koreas. Hence a tie.
True learning is not the memorization of knowledge; it is the internalization of patterns.
suLTan[CaN]
Profile Joined November 2002
Canada322 Posts
February 22 2004 16:28 GMT
#29
you guys also tried to invade Canada....so we burned down ur white house....but it wasn't the white house back then, it was like brown or green or something, but because white was the cheapest colour to paint it, white paint was used....but don't worry, you have the moral victory of having made the UK your bitch and screwing us out of property (selling of Alaska)
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
February 22 2004 16:30 GMT
#30
what does that mean? A war does not have to be declared to be official, it is what it is.
DV8
Profile Joined December 2002
United States1623 Posts
February 22 2004 16:31 GMT
#31
On February 23 2004 01:28 Hautamaki wrote:
America tied the Korean war. America wanted one capitalist Korea, China wanted one communist Korea. In the end they settled on 2 Koreas. Hence a tie.

Dude they had an armistice, its not over.
DV8
Profile Joined December 2002
United States1623 Posts
February 22 2004 16:32 GMT
#32
On February 23 2004 01:30 travis wrote:
what does that mean? A war does not have to be declared to be official, it is what it is.


True, but the world has some strange notion that war should have some civility involved thus you must declare war before it becomes official.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
February 22 2004 16:35 GMT
#33
On February 23 2004 01:28 suLTan[CaN] wrote:
you guys also tried to invade Canada....so we burned down ur white house....but it wasn't the white house back then, it was like brown or green or something, but because white was the cheapest colour to paint it, white paint was used....but don't worry, you have the moral victory of having made the UK your bitch and screwing us out of property (selling of Alaska)


uh, I believe you're thinking of the war of 1812. One could say the U.S. lost that war since they did not meet their objective and lost more battles than they won, but no side gained or lost territory.

And btw, no canadian troops were in the attack where the white house got burned down.
Kpone
Profile Joined December 2003
France167 Posts
February 22 2004 16:35 GMT
#34
Anyway who cares about this or that country having lost X number of wars. America is less than 300 years old (1776 independance), France is 1600 + years old (approximately the birth of the first dynasties of "french" kings, 500 AD king "Clovis") so we have fought many more wars and of course have lost many. Ppl of my age (21) are the first french generation not have seen and lived a war... . Ive once met an american that came on europe server just to flame ppl about the Iraq war and saying shit like "france is gay, never won a war since Napoleon" . JUST WHO GIVES A F*CK ABOUT HOW MANY WARS YOUR COUNTRY HAS LOST (apart from ppl interested in history). THis is probably the worst moronic and lame flame i've ever heard on all bnet....
damn i fucked up this one...gg.....re?? ^^
Hautamaki
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Canada1311 Posts
February 22 2004 16:36 GMT
#35
hey suLTan could you please check your facts before you make me look bad? USA bought Alaska from Russia. And before you go taking credit for Canadians beating Americans in a war, lets not forget that 'Canada' did not become Canada until a good 50 years AFTER that little skirmish. Great Britain beat USA in the War of 1812, not Canada.
True learning is not the memorization of knowledge; it is the internalization of patterns.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
February 22 2004 16:39 GMT
#36
the usa most definitely did not get 'beat' in the war of 1812.
collegeBored
Profile Joined November 2002
United States1524 Posts
February 22 2004 16:53 GMT
#37
On February 23 2004 00:33 Sky101 wrote:
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On February 23 2004 00:27 suLTan[CaN] wrote:
On February 23 2004 00:25 SoMuchBetter wrote:
those people you ran into weren't american, they were morons


whats the difference?

Spelling?


i was gonna say 'none' but you're right, i stand corrected
The stupid neither forgive nor forget, the naive forgive and forget, the wise forgive but never forget.
Hautamaki
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Canada1311 Posts
February 22 2004 16:59 GMT
#38
hey travis newsflash, the Americans started that war as a war of aggression, part of their manifest destiny. No, Britain did not reconquer the US, but they definately did not get conquered either. Since they didn't start the fight, you can score that one for the Brits. They're only prerogative was to not get conquered. They weren't conquered. They won.
True learning is not the memorization of knowledge; it is the internalization of patterns.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28743 Posts
February 22 2004 17:12 GMT
#39
I think you could refer to a draw as a tie, because both parts lose

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Sirakor
Profile Joined April 2003
Great Britain455 Posts
February 22 2004 17:28 GMT
#40
I think what he's getting at is that in the minds of today's americans there is no memory or imagination of the consequences of a war (excluding soldiers and maybe sept 11th though thats different). hence, you could argue, the public opinion is often more in favour of a war when compared to other countries.

if u or your parents etc have memories of their homes being bombed, their relatives dying AT HOME, their brothers being sent somewhere they have never heard of just to not return ever again, your view on war in general will be different than, for instance, your only experience of war is playing BF1942 sitting on your couch munching popcorn or watching a movie in ur comfy living room...
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