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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody. Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence. | ||
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nunez
Norway4003 Posts
On November 30 2012 12:51 ranjutan wrote: Upload the replay please, there's no point making that accusation without showing your evidence. adding more replays is good, a comment like that with no replay attached to it is like a broken pencil... + Show Spoiler [blackadder] + | ||
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mindjames
Israel438 Posts
On November 30 2012 17:56 DerBeutelWolf wrote: I also know him in person, and my friend who is a GM has played vs him numerous times. Including custom games WITHOUT that guy hacking and he is actually GM level. Gj saying ''Absolutely none of that is true.'' when you are clueless Somehow I doubt those people who troll the ladder with maphacks and spam "EZ" every game are comp sci majors, but that's not even half as absurd as a person trying to defend cheaters by claiming they would be at the same rank without cheats. | ||
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Msr
Korea (South)495 Posts
On November 30 2012 15:00 Melaine wrote: @ shrew, there are plenty of map hackers who are GM with out map hacking, but they are Comp sci majors who help produce the sc2 hacks, so alot of the top GM map hack you see, are in fact GM with out map hack, But MH to bm players for their sick enjoyment, so your statement that "all map hackers are noobs and bad" is pretty false. Even with map hack, you still have to know how to play and micro/macro, mh does not do that for you. I hate map hackers to, and most are bad, but the ones in Master+/gm+ can get there with out map hack. Fxo-tricky is a perfect example of this, He can hit GM with out map hacking, but MH just to bm and harass Top lvl Pro gms no he cant.... He is unable to micro or macro, and has absolutely no game sense. Hackers often play people in custom games with their hacks turned off and they are beyond horrible to the point where you can see why they would hack. | ||
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nunez
Norway4003 Posts
Server: EU League: Master, 296 points, 58 wins / 84 loss, http://sc2ranks.com/eu/2781325/maphacker Description / Replays: eXeSakkreth (p, top right) vs maphacker (t, bot left) @ Daybreak @2:35 looks into fog of war @4:00 looks into fog of war @4:37 looks into fog of war at proxied robo @4:50 sends marines to proxied robo while looking into fog of war @5:11 looks into fog of war at stalker and zealot @6:40 positions marines in order to deal with warp prism no scouting at all. Sakkreth wrote: Doesn't scout or scan at all, reacts to my 4gate and no expo with a bunker at his own ramp and 3 barracks. Keeps hovering over my main and proxy robo location while has no vision of it. When realises it's warp prism play, cancels bunker at his main ramp and sends all marines to meet warp prism while has no vision of it. DoMe (z, bot right) vs maphacker (p, top left) @ shakuras plateu @1:52 looks into FOW at DoMe's base. @2:12 same. @2:26 is sending a second probe to it (has hidden his first). constantly looking into FOW. @8:05 looks into fog of war at nydus. @8:16 sends zealot to corner of nat to attack building nydus. still dies to nydus. Conclusion blatant map hack, constantly looking at stuff through fog of war, blindly reacting and knowing what spawn, no scouting. | ||
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DerBeutelWolf
Belize15 Posts
On November 30 2012 18:24 RezJ wrote: Somehow I doubt those people who troll the ladder with maphacks and spam "EZ" every game are comp sci majors, but that's not even half as absurd as a person trying to defend cheaters by claiming they would be at the same rank without cheats. I never said he would be the same rank as he is now, stop acting stupid on purpose. All I said was that he is GM level without hacks...God fuck dammit, dude, is your head literally empty? | ||
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kahvitronic
Germany1 Post
 It was a totally new account with no games played but I thought I'd report it anyways. Just in case... Name: GoSu Server: EU League/Rank: none Replay: http://drop.sc/280246 Just look at the replay. It's obvious: no scouting, watching my base through fog, sniping hidden pylons/probes, the usual stuff He even admitted it was a maphack-test-account at the end of the game... | ||
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korona
1098 Posts
On November 29 2012 07:55 nunez wrote: Player: IIIIIIII, zerg, http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1768745/1/IIIIIIII/ Server: EU League: Master, 973 points, 100 won / 92 loss Description / replays: < cut first replay + description > IIIIIIII (p, top right) vs TokyoBoner (t, top left) @ shakuras plateu + Show Spoiler + @3:21 barcode opens 1 gate nex into gas and cyber no scout, TB is going 1 rax exp. @5:38 does what seems like an impossible building position, selecting a probe and building pylons with center outside his view, since you can't build via the minimap, and if you even try to build at the very edge at your screen your screen will move, not sure about this one though. (http://i.imgur.com/dTOG8.jpg) (edit: debunked, not evidence) @6:06 sends his units to TB's nat, not scouting yet. does a poke up sees 5 marines two depots and a rax. at this point TB has floated his CC to the 12 o'clock expo, unbeknownst to barcode. @7:52 barcode starts working on the rocks and warps in a zealot on the lowground from his main to attack the cc he had no knowledge of. @9:08 starts elevatoring into TB's main. TB going bio getting starport +1 and stim. barcode getting a froge and a robo bay. @11:30 TB is moving cross map, barcode has no vision @11:45 TB starts elevatoring into barcode's main, still no vision. @11:50 moves his army towards the corner where TB has his force and pops a guardian shield without having vision. waits for the second colo and cleans him up. This replay also contains usage of auto-chronoboost hack. At 9:26 while IIIIIIII is doing a warp prism + warpgate attack to terran's main all his 5 warpgates are chronoboosted via minimap during one frame while he actively microes at the terran's main. The auto-chrono sequence is (happens during one frame): 1) Hotkey Select 2 <-- nexuses 2) Chronoboost several individual warpgates via minimap 3) select previous selection Action lists from sc2gears: + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + 35656 IIIIIIII Hotkey Select 1 <--- contains 1 stalker & zealots 35712 IIIIIIII Attack; target: MULE (10474); target: x=56.66,y=121.70 35744 IIIIIIII Attack; target: MULE (10474); target: x=57.62,y=120.94 35768 IIIIIIII Attack; target: MULE (10474); target: x=58.45,y=120.29 35792 IIIIIIII Attack; target: SCV (10450); target: x=58.62,y=120.19 35812 IIIIIIII Attack; target: x=65.48,y=115.64 35836 IIIIIIII Attack; target: x=65.74,y=117.07 35856 IIIIIIII Attack; target: x=65.60,y=118.66 35892 IIIIIIII Attack; target: x=65.58,y=120.30 35916 IIIIIIII Right click; target: x=65.47,y=121.01 35936 IIIIIIII Right click; target: x=65.47,y=121.04 35948 IIIIIIII Right click; target: x=65.47,y=121.04 35960 IIIIIIII Right click; target: x=65.47,y=121.04 35980 IIIIIIII Attack; target: x=66.29,y=118.15 36028 IIIIIIII Right click; target: x=68.22,y=119.55 36040 IIIIIIII Right click; target: x=68.22,y=119.55 36048 IIIIIIII Right click; target: x=68.22,y=119.55 36096 IIIIIIII Right click; target: x=69.37,y=120.18 36104 IIIIIIII Right click; target: x=69.40,y=120.21 36116 IIIIIIII Right click; target: x=69.45,y=120.21 36184 IIIIIIII Hotkey Select 2 36184 IIIIIIII [MinimapClick] Chrono Boost (Nexus); target: Warp Gate (10420); target: x=129.50,y=115.50 36184 IIIIIIII [MinimapClick] Chrono Boost (Nexus); target: Warp Gate (1041c); target: x=126.50,y=115.50 36184 IIIIIIII [MinimapClick] Chrono Boost (Nexus); target: Warp Gate (10418); target: x=125.50,y=118.50 36184 IIIIIIII [MinimapClick] Chrono Boost (Nexus); target: Warp Gate (10414); target: x=124.50,y=121.50 36184 IIIIIIII [MinimapClick] Chrono Boost (Nexus); target: Warp Gate (102f4); target: x=139.50,y=118.50 36184 IIIIIIII Select Stalker (1037c), Zealot x8 (10350,1036c,20448,104c4,104c8,104cc,104d0,104d4), Deselect all This is first replay where I have seen/noticed auto-chronoboost in action. | ||
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stava88
Israel31 Posts
On November 30 2012 12:51 ranjutan wrote: Upload the replay please, there's no point making that accusation without showing your evidence. http://drop.sc/280359 Here it is. You can watch the first 3 minutes and that's conclusive enough. Sends probe to natural to build a pylon, sees the 8 pool somehow (doesn't seem to look through fog) INSTANTLY changes probe's course back to his main to place a pylon, the a forge and a gateway followed by a cannon and a zealot, all without scouting at all. When he does attack he obviously can tell where i am based on the exact time the second overlord came to his base and the postion of the ling......or because he just sees everything. | ||
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MGHero
Canada10 Posts
NA Server Master rank 1 http://drop.sc/280367 Didn't scout me whatsoever all game, at one point near the beginning he looks in the black at my base to see my pool timing and he knows which base is mine, he catches my nyduses and know where my overlords are around his base without seeing them, when he moves out with his army he knows which base is mine... i dont think i have to add anymore its quite obvious he maphacks. | ||
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ZweiGaming
Canada348 Posts
On November 30 2012 17:56 DerBeutelWolf wrote: I also know him in person, and my friend who is a GM has played vs him numerous times. Including custom games WITHOUT that guy hacking and he is actually GM level. Gj saying ''Absolutely none of that is true.'' when you are clueless If you are in fact from Belize, you do not know him "in person", him being a french canadian. His so called macro relies in his maphack telling when to look for drops, when to make pylons, etc. Winning once vs a GM is no proof of anything, beating them in bo7 would somewhat be more relevant. | ||
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ErAsc2
Sweden256 Posts
On November 30 2012 04:54 Shew wrote: new maphacker... Jaycraft on NA. idk who "gerudo" is but he keeps mentioning him pretty self explanatory... proxy 2gate without scout on 4p map. for some reason i always get maphackerso n condemned ridge... and i have that map veto'd http://drop.sc/280002 Also here is chatlog ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ZGkVg.png) edit: link if pic isnt working: http://imgur.com/ZGkVg That is hillarious lol. Somebody who's maphacking and 2gating every game is actually trying to say he's good? That is one of the most pathetic conversations I've ever seen (from him). | ||
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.kv
United States2332 Posts
Server: NA League+Rank: Masters 25th Replay: http://www.4shared.com/file/GaawMKgC/Cloud_Kingdom_LE__8_.html Description/what to look for into the replay: Rallied to my third with lots of units blindly (was forced to cancel) Sent units and rallied units to fog of war where my probe was setting up a proxy pylon Made hydralisk den, roach warren, spire, etc and never made hydras...maybe it's a solid build lol Poor macro, poor micro, just overall very low Masters mechanics IMO He still lost | ||
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nunez
Norway4003 Posts
On December 01 2012 20:33 .kv wrote: Hacker name: Hibahihi Server: NA League+Rank: Masters 25th Replay: http://www.4shared.com/file/GaawMKgC/Cloud_Kingdom_LE__8_.html Description/what to look for into the replay: Rallied to my third with lots of units blindly (was forced to cancel) Sent units and rallied units to fog of war where my probe was setting up a proxy pylon Made hydralisk den, roach warren, spire, etc and never made hydras...maybe it's a solid build lol Poor macro, poor micro, just overall very low Masters mechanics IMO He still lost use drop.sc, or at least a service where i don't have to log in to download your reps. not going to make an account for that. | ||
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chimchim
Sweden31 Posts
Server: EU League+Rank: Master rank 1 ( GM season 2,3 2011) Replay http://www.4shared.com/file/5FRjklYe/Hacker.html Description: his scouting SCV scouts my expand but he doesnt even bother to check my main. 4.17: He immedietly goes with his 2 marines to kill my probe right after i go down the rock ramp. 4.45 : He makes a 2nd bunker blindly and then makes a third bunker after me poking up with 1 zealot 1 stalker. he KNOWS about me going 3 gate pressure. 9.58: look closely how he moves his marines up the ramp to kill my observer when its in the fog. 14.27: he doesnt even bother to take the watchtower, he knows about my attack. he even spreads his units right before me going in. He does counters everything without scouting, how did he know i was going colosus and not storm for instance ? i mean this guess is a obvious maphacker, and hes not even trying to hide it. there is even another thread about this guy http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=329581 it makes me so mad that this guy is still not banned. blizzard just does not give a shit ? | ||
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nunez
Norway4003 Posts
edit: edited for niceness. | ||
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mGGTitan
4 Posts
AltThree is a hacker streaming right now. This guy is WhiteLuxury, a notorious hacker who owns 25 GM accounts on SEA. He is hacking on NA now under the account AltThree and is streaming it. Despite many, many people in the SEA community reporting this guy, blizzard has done nothing about him and he is still Rank #1 on the SEA ladder (as well as many other top accounts). He and hackers like him are the reason why the SEA Ladder is such a fucking joke right now. | ||
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unrev
Canada46 Posts
On December 02 2012 00:08 mGGTitan wrote: http://www.twitch.tv/sc2mh AltThree is a hacker streaming right now. This guy is WhiteLuxury, a notorious hacker who owns 25 GM accounts on SEA. He is hacking on NA now under the account AltThree and is streaming it. Despite many, many people in the SEA community reporting this guy, blizzard has done nothing about him and he is still Rank #1 on the SEA ladder (as well as many other top accounts). He and hackers like him are the reason why the SEA Ladder is such a fucking joke right now. I wish reports from GM players would be taken more seriously by adding like a "suspicious tag" system. When a player has been reported by , lets say, 60 GM players, he would now have to walk around with a big "suspicious tag" on his account and from that momen other GM would have the option to dodge him without losing points. Hopefully that would give those "suspicious" players a hard time finding games, make them accumulate bonus pool and then gently kick them out of GM league. | ||
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a176
Canada6688 Posts
its like USeast all over again, sigh and is blizzard doing anything about it? | ||
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FXOTheoRy
United States519 Posts
Server: NA League/Rank: master http://drop.sc/280369 Proxy 2 gate on antiga. funny replay as well | ||
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Hollow
Canada2183 Posts
On December 02 2012 01:01 a176 wrote: it seems maphacking has gotten out of control in the past couple of weeks its like USeast all over again, sigh and is blizzard doing anything about it? I keep reporting hackers and they don't do anything about it. And I mean people who basically even say that they have the hack open and prove it. | ||
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