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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
September 26 2013 00:15 GMT
#3821
On September 26 2013 09:14 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On September 26 2013 09:04 deconduo wrote:
Quick thoughts on the main lynch candidates.

Mattchew: Looking pretty damn townish based on this post:

Show nested quote +
On September 24 2013 08:37 Mattchew wrote:
i dont know if VE can martyr and be this depressing as scum

my vote stayed on yamato because he didn't overreact to a lynch push on him, he didnt even call me scum for voting him, he hasnt been super aggressive the whole game

wave should be medic'd

DP has to be town theres no way scum gets that upset about an apparent mod mistake town lynch

Mocsta is clearly town

i could see a scum team of marv, yamato, firm tofu, stutters, a replaced player, and a lurker

this FT post is long but literally says nothing.

no i will not give my reasoning for marv being scum... plus if im wrong which i probably am because i suck at marvreading, he'll be dead soon enough


I thought the same myself, and WoS would have been my top medic target. Why would scum Mattchew post that, and then go and NK him anyway.




LoneMeow: Has many bad/bizarre posts, such as the martyring as well as this one:

Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 04:18 LoneMeow wrote:
Between Cephiro and FirmTofu I'd prefer to lynch FirmTofu. I'll try to be back before deadline but as I'm not even sure anymore when it is, no guarantees.

##Vote: FirmTofu


However I would read that as bad play as opposed to scum play. I don't see anything in his filter that couldn't be explained by being a newbie townie.




Cephiro:

Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 08:16 Cephiro wrote:
On September 26 2013 08:14 Koshi wrote:
On September 26 2013 08:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 26 2013 08:10 Koshi wrote:
Roleclaim.

me, why?

No Cephiro. Should have posted after OO.


I am not going to claim my role. It's sub-optimal for town. Why do you want me to roleclaim that badly?



Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 08:22 Cephiro wrote:
On September 26 2013 08:19 Koshi wrote:
On September 26 2013 08:16 Cephiro wrote:
On September 26 2013 08:14 Koshi wrote:
On September 26 2013 08:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 26 2013 08:10 Koshi wrote:
Roleclaim.

+ Show Spoiler +
I'm parity cop

No Cephiro. Should have posted after OO.

I am not going to claim my role. It's sub-optimal for town. Why do you want me to roleclaim that badly?

I don't want to wait till deadline.


I've claimed my alignment, that should be enough. For someone that has been defending me to some extent, I think you're a bit too eager to find out my role.


These two lines in particular stand out to me. I don't see why a town would ever post something like this, it seems like a very scum-mindset thing to do.

#Vote: Cephiro



Who's this guy?

replaced xzavier hasn't done shit.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 26 2013 00:16 GMT
#3822
On September 26 2013 09:15 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 09:14 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On September 26 2013 09:04 deconduo wrote:
Quick thoughts on the main lynch candidates.

Mattchew: Looking pretty damn townish based on this post:

Show nested quote +
On September 24 2013 08:37 Mattchew wrote:
i dont know if VE can martyr and be this depressing as scum

my vote stayed on yamato because he didn't overreact to a lynch push on him, he didnt even call me scum for voting him, he hasnt been super aggressive the whole game

wave should be medic'd

DP has to be town theres no way scum gets that upset about an apparent mod mistake town lynch

Mocsta is clearly town

i could see a scum team of marv, yamato, firm tofu, stutters, a replaced player, and a lurker

this FT post is long but literally says nothing.

no i will not give my reasoning for marv being scum... plus if im wrong which i probably am because i suck at marvreading, he'll be dead soon enough


I thought the same myself, and WoS would have been my top medic target. Why would scum Mattchew post that, and then go and NK him anyway.




LoneMeow: Has many bad/bizarre posts, such as the martyring as well as this one:

Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 04:18 LoneMeow wrote:
Between Cephiro and FirmTofu I'd prefer to lynch FirmTofu. I'll try to be back before deadline but as I'm not even sure anymore when it is, no guarantees.

##Vote: FirmTofu


However I would read that as bad play as opposed to scum play. I don't see anything in his filter that couldn't be explained by being a newbie townie.




Cephiro:

Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 08:16 Cephiro wrote:
On September 26 2013 08:14 Koshi wrote:
On September 26 2013 08:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 26 2013 08:10 Koshi wrote:
Roleclaim.

me, why?

No Cephiro. Should have posted after OO.


I am not going to claim my role. It's sub-optimal for town. Why do you want me to roleclaim that badly?



Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 08:22 Cephiro wrote:
On September 26 2013 08:19 Koshi wrote:
On September 26 2013 08:16 Cephiro wrote:
On September 26 2013 08:14 Koshi wrote:
On September 26 2013 08:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 26 2013 08:10 Koshi wrote:
Roleclaim.

+ Show Spoiler +
I'm parity cop

No Cephiro. Should have posted after OO.

I am not going to claim my role. It's sub-optimal for town. Why do you want me to roleclaim that badly?

I don't want to wait till deadline.


I've claimed my alignment, that should be enough. For someone that has been defending me to some extent, I think you're a bit too eager to find out my role.


These two lines in particular stand out to me. I don't see why a town would ever post something like this, it seems like a very scum-mindset thing to do.

#Vote: Cephiro



Who's this guy?

replaced xzavier hasn't done shit.

One of Cephiro and LM is scum. And if Cephiro is town, this mysterious man...
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 26 2013 00:19 GMT
#3823
"Claiming alignment is enough"
I think it is that part that is strange.
Cuz everyboody claims alignment.

Also he claims a role without claiming a role and he knows it.

But w.e.
I had a good night of sleep.
Zaragon
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden235 Posts
September 26 2013 00:20 GMT
#3824
On September 26 2013 08:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 08:55 Zaragon wrote:
I don't like how we've shifted off people who voted Chairman Ray. It's almost impossible for us not to find scum among those names, and we already know (most probably) yamato77 is town among those.

I'd be ok to vote Rayn, Sentinel, or geript, even if they vary very much in scumminess for me (I wrote them in order) and get information, but obviously I want FT more. To me both the most likely to flip scum and the biggest yield of information.

Why should we dismiss the very real possibility of a scum panic situation that reveals several likely scum for a minor player without many links to anyone? Is he really that much more scum than anyone with day 1 vote that would prove significant for the coming day? Someone who voted LM feels considerably less relevant when we don't know LM's alignment as certainly as Chairman Ray's--that includes LM himself

That's where I'm at. I've been unable to focus on the game, so I'm questioning myself, but I'll go with my reads, logic and gut as they've been; they were clear

Instead of wanting to lynch FT for information and only for information could you tell us why he is mafia?


I wish I could, I feel really cruddy about it but I can't. I'm in the game out of sheer stubbornness at this point, I'll have to ask for replace/modkill if I don't get better tomorrow. My filter has my points strewn about it, and for instance DP's filter has the case for FT from early on
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 26 2013 00:20 GMT
#3825
On September 26 2013 09:19 Koshi wrote:
"Claiming alignment is enough"
I think it is that part that is strange.
Cuz everyboody claims alignment.

Also he claims a role without claiming a role and he knows it.

But w.e.


Then why aren't you voting Cephiro off the island?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 26 2013 00:20 GMT
#3826
On September 26 2013 09:16 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 09:15 iamperfection wrote:
On September 26 2013 09:14 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On September 26 2013 09:04 deconduo wrote:
Quick thoughts on the main lynch candidates.

Mattchew: Looking pretty damn townish based on this post:

Show nested quote +
On September 24 2013 08:37 Mattchew wrote:
i dont know if VE can martyr and be this depressing as scum

my vote stayed on yamato because he didn't overreact to a lynch push on him, he didnt even call me scum for voting him, he hasnt been super aggressive the whole game

wave should be medic'd

DP has to be town theres no way scum gets that upset about an apparent mod mistake town lynch

Mocsta is clearly town

i could see a scum team of marv, yamato, firm tofu, stutters, a replaced player, and a lurker

this FT post is long but literally says nothing.

no i will not give my reasoning for marv being scum... plus if im wrong which i probably am because i suck at marvreading, he'll be dead soon enough


I thought the same myself, and WoS would have been my top medic target. Why would scum Mattchew post that, and then go and NK him anyway.




LoneMeow: Has many bad/bizarre posts, such as the martyring as well as this one:

Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 04:18 LoneMeow wrote:
Between Cephiro and FirmTofu I'd prefer to lynch FirmTofu. I'll try to be back before deadline but as I'm not even sure anymore when it is, no guarantees.

##Vote: FirmTofu


However I would read that as bad play as opposed to scum play. I don't see anything in his filter that couldn't be explained by being a newbie townie.




Cephiro:

Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 08:16 Cephiro wrote:
On September 26 2013 08:14 Koshi wrote:
On September 26 2013 08:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 26 2013 08:10 Koshi wrote:
Roleclaim.

me, why?

No Cephiro. Should have posted after OO.


I am not going to claim my role. It's sub-optimal for town. Why do you want me to roleclaim that badly?



Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 08:22 Cephiro wrote:
On September 26 2013 08:19 Koshi wrote:
On September 26 2013 08:16 Cephiro wrote:
On September 26 2013 08:14 Koshi wrote:
On September 26 2013 08:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 26 2013 08:10 Koshi wrote:
Roleclaim.

+ Show Spoiler +
I'm parity cop

No Cephiro. Should have posted after OO.

I am not going to claim my role. It's sub-optimal for town. Why do you want me to roleclaim that badly?

I don't want to wait till deadline.


I've claimed my alignment, that should be enough. For someone that has been defending me to some extent, I think you're a bit too eager to find out my role.


These two lines in particular stand out to me. I don't see why a town would ever post something like this, it seems like a very scum-mindset thing to do.

#Vote: Cephiro



Who's this guy?

replaced xzavier hasn't done shit.

One of Cephiro and LM is scum. And if Cephiro is town, this mysterious man...

Why is that? Marv says both.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 26 2013 00:23 GMT
#3827
On September 26 2013 09:20 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 09:19 Koshi wrote:
"Claiming alignment is enough"
I think it is that part that is strange.
Cuz everyboody claims alignment.

Also he claims a role without claiming a role and he knows it.

But w.e.


Then why aren't you voting Cephiro off the island?

Hmm did I prove cephiro is scum without knowing?
I had a good night of sleep.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 26 2013 00:24 GMT
#3828
I have a really big problem with dec coming in here one and a half hours pre-lynch, after I didn't even know he was playing this game, and dropping that post. "LM is obviously noob town" REALLY? Nothing in his filter can be explained by him being scum at all? But apparently nothing in Cephiros filter is justifiable from a town perspective. Smells of generalizations.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
September 26 2013 00:24 GMT
#3829
cephiro are you still here you gave no indication you were leaving?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
September 26 2013 00:24 GMT
#3830
On September 26 2013 09:04 deconduo wrote:
Quick thoughts on the main lynch candidates.

Cephiro:

Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 08:16 Cephiro wrote:
I am not going to claim my role. It's sub-optimal for town. Why do you want me to roleclaim that badly?



Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 08:22 Cephiro wrote:
I've claimed my alignment, that should be enough. For someone that has been defending me to some extent, I think you're a bit too eager to find out my role.


These two lines in particular stand out to me. I don't see why a town would ever post something like this, it seems like a very scum-mindset thing to do.

#Vote: Cephiro


How is role-claiming in any perspective a good thing? Regardless of what I claim, you won't be able to make anything out of it. If I claim VT I could be:

1) Speaking the truth
2) Fake-claiming as a blue hoping to be able to use powers still
3) Fake-claiming as scum

If I claim a blue role I could be:

1) Speaking the truth, outing a blue for scum NK / roleblocks for a possible mislynch
2) Fake-claiming as VT to draw roleblocks/NK
3) Fake-claiming as scum
4) Fake-claiming as another blue role (unlikely)

If those two lines are your only reasons voting for me, it makes you look incredibly bad in my eyes.

On September 26 2013 09:16 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
One of Cephiro and LM is scum. And if Cephiro is town, this mysterious man...


Why does one of me and LM have to be scum?
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
September 26 2013 00:25 GMT
#3831
EBWOP: Also voting for LoneMeow now, as it doesn't seem any other lynch is going to happen.
Was taking a snack. Seems some weird spreadsheet claiming shit happened.

##vote LoneMeow
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 26 2013 00:25 GMT
#3832
You don't have to be. I just think one of you is.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
September 26 2013 00:28 GMT
#3833
cephiro is right decondu that is some bs if that is your only reasoning for voting him
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 26 2013 00:30 GMT
#3834
Voted cephiro together with my scumread rayn. I just pressured rayn so hard he had to lead me to a teammate.

Gn all. 4.realzies.
I had a good night of sleep.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
September 26 2013 00:31 GMT
#3835
Koshi you are hilarious...
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
September 26 2013 00:32 GMT
#3836
##Unvote
##Vote: Flamewheel
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
September 26 2013 00:33 GMT
#3837
On September 26 2013 09:30 Koshi wrote:
Voted cephiro together with my scumread rayn. I just pressured rayn so hard he had to lead me to a teammate.

Gn all. 4.realzies.


... Are you kidding me -_- First you try to defend me, then you try to rolefish, and now you vote for me and have some absurd theory of me and rayn being scumbuddies?

Koshi.

I am disappoint. Very disappoint. Your play makes not enough sense for a townie.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
September 26 2013 00:34 GMT
#3838
moc stop fucking around.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
September 26 2013 00:36 GMT
#3839
On September 26 2013 08:30 s0Lstice wrote:
Vote Count

FirmTofu (3): VisceraEyes, Risen, raynpelikoneet, geript, LoneMeow, Coagulation, Zaragon

justanothertownie (1): kushm4sta, koshi

Cephiro (7): Risen, raynpelikoneet, marvellosity, s&b, justanothertownie, raynpelikoneet, yamato77, VisceraEyes, deconduo, koshi

Pandain (1): Mocsta, raynpelikoneet, Mr. Cheesecake, [UoN]Sentinel

Zaragon (0): FirmTofu

[UoN]Sentinel (0): raynpelikoneet

Mattchew (1): Mocsta, VisceraEyes, marvellosity, ObviousOne, marvellosity, justanothertownie, Umasi

Umasi (1): FirmTofu

marvellosity (1): Pandain, geript

raynpelikoneet (1): Koshi, koshi

LoneMeow (7): Mattchew, Mr. Cheesecake, VisceraEyes, Coagulation, ObviousOne, VisceraEyes, pandain, cephiro

VisceraEyes (0): Pandain

LoneMeow hit 7 first.

Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
September 26 2013 00:36 GMT
#3840
On September 26 2013 09:34 iamperfection wrote:
moc stop fucking around.

Im not.

Im not voting till the last 5minutes. Dont like it, then GTFO
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