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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody. Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence. | ||
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Extenz
Italy822 Posts
On November 26 2012 18:55 Wertheron wrote: Did you know that the hackers buy the hack nearly 55 euros for HoTS? I really don't understand how non pro players can paid 2x the price of the game just for cheating.... I just don't understand how PLAYERS can pay for such a thing. | ||
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( bush
321 Posts
On November 26 2012 12:44 iCoNz.BoSS wrote: i think someone else could have made that account though So you really think someone made that account, paid 62 dollars to be VIP, and NOW, 1 year after that, we are trying to incriminate the guy? | ||
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goiflin
Canada1218 Posts
On November 26 2012 23:20 ( bush wrote: So you really think someone made that account, paid 62 dollars to be VIP, and NOW, 1 year after that, we are trying to incriminate the guy? It's a possibility, but zenniths rep+the other reps on TL+the Brazilian reps... It seems pretty damning tbh. | ||
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nunez
Norway4003 Posts
Server: EU League: Master, 1122 points, 112 wins / 94 losses, http://sc2ranks.com/eu/2954072/murdera Description / Replays: murdera (t, top right) vs soulbrother (z, top left) @ entombed valley @1:30 sends 3 scvs to top left and walls off ramp with 2 rax, no scouting. waits with scvs for a while as drone is moving down, and overlord is moving to the right (but stops). then goes up as he has 300 minerals. @12:13 peeks into fog of war and retreats behind wall with units as roach ling army is outside. @12:47 looks into fog of war at the newly made 9 o'clock base. @15:00 looks into fog of war at roach ling army. @15:37 selects army with no hotkeys when it's not in his view. not going to analyze any further as it's already obvious that he's hacking. murdera (t, top right) vs monster (z, bot left) @ daybreak @2:10 selects scvs not in his views without hotkeys. @2:55 looks into base at pool. @5:17 is looking on top of monsters ramp @6:05 looks at his main @6:32 mule gets called down while he's looking at top of ramp. no need to look further. murdera (t, bot left) vs DeuXMAchina (t, top right) @ daybreak @5:13 scv gets queued up without him selecting cc @5:30 looks into fog of war at top of MAchinas ramp. @6:35 selects an scv without it being in his vision, no hotkey. @6:42 calls down a mule without minerals in his vision. @6:49 selects units not in his vision without hotkeys. no need to look further. what a retard. conclusive. | ||
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malaan
365 Posts
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PiQLiQ
Sweden702 Posts
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DerBeutelWolf
Belize15 Posts
On November 26 2012 21:52 Extenz wrote: I just don't understand how PLAYERS can pay for such a thing. 62.50 AUD = ~ 44 € Learn to calculate. | ||
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Cokefreak
Finland8095 Posts
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DerBeutelWolf
Belize15 Posts
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Zennith
United States795 Posts
Maybe it sounds like I'm harping, but I really feel like we need to get a solid confirmed on Dakkon. There are just so many replays with really significant evidence. | ||
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ZweiGaming
Canada348 Posts
On November 27 2012 03:50 Zennith wrote: In any case, I really feel that we need to either get someone on this OP or start a new thread. Maybe it sounds like I'm harping, but I really feel like we need to get a solid confirmed on Dakkon. There are just so many replays with really significant evidence. "If you cannot be 100% sure about a case, then just put it on "hold" untill more replays come into play. For example, few people asked me to review the Dakkon case, he is fishy, but in my opinion, there's a chance he might not be hacking. There is no move that makes me believe with a 100% certainty that he does hack, so that would be one case that i'd have on the hold." I've had a discussion with few people about Dakkon, those were my thoughts. I had seen his name on flarebase before too, but again anyone could have used the name... | ||
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ReMiiX
United States338 Posts
On November 27 2012 01:55 PiQLiQ wrote: People already have hots hacks? I feel like maphacking and blink hacking would be pretty much the same between WoL and HotS. They run on essentially the same client after all. I wonder if any other hacks will be developed specifically for HotS. Maybe something with widow mines and no auto attack. | ||
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nunez
Norway4003 Posts
Server: NA League: Master, 754 points, 79 win / 37 lost, http://sc2ranks.com/us/3932361/Fox Description / Replays: Fox (p, top left) vs YelloOw (p, bot right) @ antiga shipyard @0:16 fox blindly sends probe cross map to YellOws spawn and starts a pylon in smoke and double gate. Fox (p, top left) vs IIIllIlllIIl (t, top right) @ entombed valley @3:15 probe queues up without selecting the nexus (selection, training and deselction happens within one frame) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/HrFMd.png) @3:58 probe queue, no selection goes 3 gate, and chronoes out sentries. he has no scouting info. is watching ramp as barcodes squad of scv marine marauder (he went 2 rax) tries to walk up and forcefields. @8:44 probe starts at nexus with no selection as he is pulling probes to defend the 2 rax pressure that got up his ramp. @10:36 barcode charging with medevac, he's going all in off one base with 2 rax and medevacs. fox going 1 base colo, he has no scouting info. @12:45 looking at ramp as barcondes army is right outside. (he never has any mapvision) @15:08 vikings come up from the bottom, is looking at edge as they come into vision and moves his stalks there. from here until end a lot of 'good' camera and army movement as he is holding his ramp from the bio allin. Fox (p, bot left) vs IIIllIlllIIl (t, top right) @ entombed valley @3:26 probe queues up, no selection. @3:39 probe queues up, no selection. lots of these. just noting for reference so it's clear that he has some sort of auto production and it was just not one off happening. basically what happens is a select nexis, queue and reselect on previous thing in one frame, which i am not sure is possible. @6:30 fox getting obs and temlar archives, barconde doing 1-1-1. moves out to kill an incoming scv. has no mapvision, but a warp prism is on the way to barcodes spawn, with no scouting ofc. @9:03 forcefield and looking on ramp as barcode comes up, he can't hold and gets crushed. Fox (p, bot left) vs Fluffyjr (t, bot right) @ antiga shipyard @1:44 probe queues up, no selection. (placing gateway with probe) going 1 gate nexus blindly, Fluff going 1 rax exp. @5:36 probe queue up, no selection. @5:39 natural queued up, no selection. @7:34 places pylon outside Fluffy natural, has no scouting info on where he spawned. @9:04 he sits outside the natural ramp of Fluffy, who has a bunker, 2 more on the way and pulled scvs. he starts a forge and a tc. he has 0 intel still, he did not poke up the ramp, but is looking into fog of war. @11:38 almost premature forcefield as Fluffy stims down ramp and cleans him up. @13:51 impossible selection as his third finishes up and 3 probes gets started up, each after an individual select and train, all in one frame. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/HcPPp.png) for reference this is how it looks when he 'manually' queues up probes later. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/XZpYg.png) notice that he can't even click 'e' consecutively within one frame. @13:58 sends his entire army to the third, where a huge drop is headed. @19:44 moves up the ramp at the middle where fox army is, no scouting. On November 30 2012 14:30 TylerThaCreator wrote: Just played Fox on na, proxy 2 gate in my main on shakuras without looking at minerals. http://drop.sc/280188 Conclusion: conclusive evidence just through the build order choices, army movement, blind guessing of spawns on fourplayer maps and camera positioning (when armies walk up ramp etc) and 0 scouting at all. you can add in the auto probe production for good measure if you want, but this guy is a crabass hacker. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/WwssT.png) maybe buy a hack that autocasts? | ||
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nunez
Norway4003 Posts
Server: EU League: Master, 0 points, 1 win / 1 loss, http://sc2ranks.com/eu/3025644/RatZSkitzø Description / Replays: RatZSkitzø (p, bot left) vs Slix (t, top right) @ entombed valley @1:04 sends probe cross map to Slix base. @3:56 says in chat what Slix is building (reactor fact) @5:12 this guy has full chrono on his nexus on one base. i think Slix really turned his knobs. @5:43 says in chat what Slix is building (tank) @6:10 says in chat what Slix is building (banshee) @7:43 says in chat what Slix is building (raven) @9:44 looks through FOW at Slix army moving down his ramp. no point to look any further. Conclusion tip of the hat to Slix for making him have a mental breakdown and reveal himself, proclaiming what's on the production tab with no scouting. not really worth spending time on since it seems to be an inactive account, but doesn't really take much time either and should be included in the db. | ||
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phrenzy
United Kingdom478 Posts
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bGr.MetHiX
Bulgaria511 Posts
pretty sad person. | ||
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Sinok
Israel38 Posts
On November 27 2012 20:17 bGr.MetHiX wrote: TOPTiesalie is back to maphacking. 100/30 record already with 2 games against me in which he never scouts on 4 base maps,never scans,sends armies immediately to ninja expands etc etc... pretty sad person. are you serious lol i played him yesterday and after i beat him he called me a maphacker and told me that he's going to report me haha | ||
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nunez
Norway4003 Posts
Server: EU League+Rank: Master, rank 2, llllllllllll, 1358 points, 147 wins, 87 losses. http://sc2ranks.com/eu/3228704/llllllllllll Description / Replays: ChrisJ (P, top left) vs llllllllllll (T, bot left) @ Antiga Shipyard no scouting from llllllllllll. 1 rax triple CC blindly, ChrisJ going 1 gate expand. @9:35 puts army in position to intercept warp prism. Has salvaged bunkers at front and leaves no units there, so it was not a case of splitting your forces up. Still no scouting at all. @10:51 starts up a ghost academy, having only seen the warp prismed colossus. ChrisJ is now going into HT's. @11:07 moves army to intercept a warp prism coming to his natural. Camera looking at the spot where it comes into vision. @11:48 moves army up to intercept a warp prism coming into main again. @13:14 attacks. does a 4 medevac drop from the front with no scan. llllllllllll (p, top right) vs Balt (p, bot right) @ entombed valley @0:06 barcode sends probe to Balts spawn @0:43 looks into fog of war at probe leaving from Balts nexus, tries to dodge it with his own probe. plants pylon and two gates. @2:37 looking into fog of war at Balts base. breaks through front and balt leaves. llllllllllll (p, top left) vs Tomasy (t, bot left) @ entombed valley @0:14 sends probe to Tomasys natural. @0:43 looks into fog of war at Tomasys base as he sends the probe in to his main. @3:40 types in 'surprise' before he sends his zeals and probes down to his mineral line. Tomasy leaves. llllllllllll (t, top right) vs soulbrother (z, top left) @1:38 sends 3 scvs to soulbrothers natural. @2:02 looks into fog of war at soulbrothers main. @2:28 queues up the raxes before scouting anything. @10:20 looks into fog of war at roaches. Conclusion: blindly doing cheese on fourplayer maps, looking into fog of war, sub 100 apm, and hardcountering with no scout vs ChrisJ is revealing as well. i am pretty confident this guy is hacking. not sure if there are multiple people sharing the account, since there are 3 protoss games and 1 terran game. maybe we'll get some more 'lucky' reps of this guy. | ||
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simuxx12
Lithuania4 Posts
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Sakkreth
Lithuania1096 Posts
Server: EU League: Master, 296 points, 58 wins / 84 loss, http://sc2ranks.com/eu/2781325/maphacker Description / Replays: eXeSakkreth (p, top right) vs maphacker (t, bot left) @ Daybreak Doesn't scout or scan at all, reacts to my 4gate and no expo with a bunker at his own ramp and 3 barracks. Keeps hovering over my main and proxy robo location while has no vision of it. When realises it's warp prism play, cancels bunker at his main ramp and sends all marines to meet warp prism while has no vision of it. Conclusion No explanation needed here really he wasn't even trying to hide anything and he's clearly really bad as he lost to 4gate warp prism play while maphacking, barely over 60apm. Masters only because has a maphack. | ||
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