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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.

Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence.
Sasau
Profile Joined November 2012
Brazil2 Posts
November 25 2012 18:23 GMT
#3741
Check your game vs dakkon in live stream (1:33) http://pt-br.twitch.tv/dakkontv/b/342940498
Azurator
Profile Joined November 2012
Brazil3 Posts
November 25 2012 18:24 GMT
#3742
Thats because theres no one seeing the stream... ¬¬'
Brazil
KOTiGeR
Profile Joined November 2012
Brazil1 Post
November 25 2012 18:27 GMT
#3743
http://pt-br.twitch.tv/dakkontv/b/342940498 - 1:33 (your game vs dakkon in live stream) Now this here's your evidence
DakkoN
Profile Joined July 2009
Brazil24 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-25 18:30:03
November 25 2012 18:27 GMT
#3744
On November 26 2012 03:23 Sasau wrote:
Check your game vs dakkon in live stream (1:33) http://pt-br.twitch.tv/dakkontv/b/342940498


sorry for the inconvenience ... wants clearer than that? @Zennith
Zennith
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States795 Posts
November 25 2012 18:33 GMT
#3745
Lol, guys, just look at what he actually did. He tenpoold. Had no map vision. Did not scout my 8pool. Instead of sending his lings across the map like anyone actually tenpooling would do, he rallied them behind his base. He then kept producing lings and held them back, no scouting. If I was doing any normal build, that would make absolutely no sense. I'm still waiting for an explanation bro.
Sentinel Gaming Competitive Team Manager | 1500+ points Masters Zerg | twitch.tv/zennith6
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
November 25 2012 18:34 GMT
#3746
It's obviously sick star sense bro Nothing weird about it at all
Zennith
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States795 Posts
November 25 2012 18:35 GMT
#3747
On November 26 2012 03:34 Cokefreak wrote:
It's obviously sick star sense bro Nothing weird about it at all



Of couuuuurse.

My mistake.

I sincerely apologize.
Sentinel Gaming Competitive Team Manager | 1500+ points Masters Zerg | twitch.tv/zennith6
Rickyvalle21
Profile Joined July 2012
United States320 Posts
November 25 2012 18:38 GMT
#3748
Lol, 1 replay with less then 5 minutes of gameplay, and you accuse someone of hacking is just ridiculous.
people say practice is perfect but if nothing is perfect whats the point in practicing?
Zennith
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States795 Posts
November 25 2012 18:39 GMT
#3749
On November 26 2012 03:38 Rickyvalle21 wrote:
Lol, 1 replay with less then 5 minutes of gameplay, and you accuse someone of hacking is just ridiculous.



... ridiculous in what way, good sire?
Sentinel Gaming Competitive Team Manager | 1500+ points Masters Zerg | twitch.tv/zennith6
Girondelle
Profile Joined December 2010
France969 Posts
November 25 2012 18:40 GMT
#3750
On November 26 2012 03:33 Zennith wrote:
Lol, guys, just look at what he actually did. He tenpoold. Had no map vision. Did not scout my 8pool. Instead of sending his lings across the map like anyone actually tenpooling would do, he rallied them behind his base. He then kept producing lings and held them back, no scouting. If I was doing any normal build, that would make absolutely no sense. I'm still waiting for an explanation bro.


Actually he 10pooled with gaz, so the purpose of this build is to make mass lings and reveal them when your speed kicks in and catch the scouting lings and then go for the kill, he has no incentive to send them across the map to scout, this is not a 10 pool with drones pull. From what I see you just got unlucky, based on just this one game there is no proof that he was hacking.
doss
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada137 Posts
November 25 2012 18:41 GMT
#3751
On November 26 2012 03:39 Zennith wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 03:38 Rickyvalle21 wrote:
Lol, 1 replay with less then 5 minutes of gameplay, and you accuse someone of hacking is just ridiculous.



... ridiculous in what way, good sire?


in the sense he was pooling up speedlings (waiting for his speed to finish)
https://sites.google.com/site/starcraft2doss/home/home/
Kaitokid
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany1327 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-25 18:43:45
November 25 2012 18:41 GMT
#3752
On November 26 2012 03:27 DakkoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 03:23 Sasau wrote:
Check your game vs dakkon in live stream (1:33) http://pt-br.twitch.tv/dakkontv/b/342940498


sorry for the inconvenience ... wants clearer than that? @Zennith


while I dont have an opinion or whether you are or not a hacker HOW is this prove you are not a hacker LOL?

the only thing I see in this vod is as Zennith described you 10pool and dont send the lings to your enemy without scouting what he does lol..

edit: Girondelle's explanation makes sense to me
pauloc100
Profile Joined November 2012
3 Posts
November 25 2012 18:44 GMT
#3753
Zennith Well, it seems that you are mistaken. but the advantage is that they are telling you how to play. hehe
Zennith
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States795 Posts
November 25 2012 18:45 GMT
#3754
Can we also note, if you find this game inconclusive, that I'm hardly the first person to accuse Dakkon. Doing research, I see there's quite a dossier on him in different languages. THere are also two replays earlier in this thread:

On November 10 2012 11:09 Bombs wrote:
Hacker name: |FK|DakkoN
Server: NA
League: Master, Rank 2


Replay 1: Dakkon vs Danny http://drop.sc/273322

What to look for:

- 3:09 Danny starts a bunker in Dakkon natural.

- 3:19 Dakkon with NO VISION, sends 2 drones to stop the bunker.

- 5:25 Dakkon starts his third, no vision in the map, no overlords spoting gas or anything.

- 6:20 Danny controls the xel naga tower, denying any map control from Dakkon, Dakkon with no overlords in the map for scouting and information. (And he also didn't scouted with an overlord, or overseer to look for Bio/Mech play).

- 8:00 Dakkon makes 1 spore crawler in each base after he sees 2 hellions, but the point is that as said before no overlord, no poke with lings for information by Dakkon.

- 10:22 After 4 minutes of pure dronning in the dark, the zerg player decides to get control of the xel naga tower.

- 11:41 Dakkon finally makes his first scout in the game, doing a runby on the third of Danny.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Replay 2 Dakkon vs Filho http://drop.sc/273325

What to look for:

- 11:00 Filho goes through the side to start the aggression

- 11:29 Dakkon has no vision of Filho's army, and then randomly sends 12 roaches to Filho base and keeps the remaining roaches at the center of the map at the xel naga tower (?)

- 12:52 Dakkon not even use the xel naga tower to control the map, simply forms a big concave exactly from the position that Filho is coming from and sets the rally point as it seems he knew it was coming from, because rallying there makes no sense.





That help to offer pretty strong evidence.
Sentinel Gaming Competitive Team Manager | 1500+ points Masters Zerg | twitch.tv/zennith6
Zennith
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States795 Posts
November 25 2012 18:46 GMT
#3755
On November 26 2012 03:44 pauloc100 wrote:
Zennith Well, it seems that you are mistaken. but the advantage is that they are telling you how to play. hehe



Uh... what?
Sentinel Gaming Competitive Team Manager | 1500+ points Masters Zerg | twitch.tv/zennith6
Roman666
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland1440 Posts
November 25 2012 18:47 GMT
#3756
On November 26 2012 03:40 Girondelle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 03:33 Zennith wrote:
Lol, guys, just look at what he actually did. He tenpoold. Had no map vision. Did not scout my 8pool. Instead of sending his lings across the map like anyone actually tenpooling would do, he rallied them behind his base. He then kept producing lings and held them back, no scouting. If I was doing any normal build, that would make absolutely no sense. I'm still waiting for an explanation bro.


Actually he 10pooled with gaz, so the purpose of this build is to make mass lings and reveal them when your speed kicks in and catch the scouting lings and then go for the kill, he has no incentive to send them across the map to scout, this is not a 10 pool with drones pull. From what I see you just got unlucky, based on just this one game there is no proof that he was hacking.

Completely agree with this, he was doing speedling all in, and was gathering lings for mass attack.
Wormi
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany181 Posts
November 25 2012 18:49 GMT
#3757
kinda funny, where do all these guys with 1,2 or 3 posts suddenly come from, just to justify that strange build. ;-)
I´m a real person. Beep beep.
Extenz
Profile Joined October 2011
Italy822 Posts
November 25 2012 18:50 GMT
#3758
On November 26 2012 03:49 Wormi wrote:
kinda funny, where do all these guys with 1,2 or 3 posts suddenly come from, just to justify that strange build. ;-)


He has like 50 viewers on his stream (only Brazilians) so I guess his army of followers wants to help him.
Azurator
Profile Joined November 2012
Brazil3 Posts
November 25 2012 18:58 GMT
#3759
Sure and the Germany, Poland, France, Canada and Finland guys are alll fakes... even the 3k posts guy.
Brazil
Zennith
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States795 Posts
November 25 2012 19:00 GMT
#3760
On November 26 2012 03:58 Azurator wrote:
Sure and the Germany, Poland, France, Canada and Finland guys are alll fakes... even the 3k posts guy.



Can you fellas then please address the notion that this is NOT the first time he's hacked. There are multiple replays that offer very, very strong evidence.
Sentinel Gaming Competitive Team Manager | 1500+ points Masters Zerg | twitch.tv/zennith6
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