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Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
September 29 2011 03:08 GMT
#361
On September 29 2011 12:01 wherebugsgo wrote:
There's nothing really left to say on Jackal (I am gonna be ignoring him for real now since he isn't doing anything productive but you all can ask me questions if you so desire)

Moving on to some people I think deserve attention, probably since they don't want it:

Curu

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=266305&user=62066

Curu has disappeared since earlier and his vote is useless. He hasn't contributed anything yet to the discussion yet, despite being around for LoTR and there being plenty to talk about. This doesn't sit well with me knowing how he played scum in both XLIV and MLP, and as town in Ace's SMG. In SMG he was pretty open about thinking I was scum and he was very bold and productive as town. In both XLIV and MLP he was semi active with a lot of one liners and fluff posts, not really contributing but feigning so. I'll give him some time to come back and clarify things (perhaps he's busy? who knows) but I think it's odd he's gone here but he's around to post the day post in LoTR.

Sevryn:


Show nested quote +
On September 29 2011 11:16 Sevryn wrote:
okay so NotChezinu pretty much troll all day er'day and to be honest if he doesnt know what his role is thats not the kind of person I would like to have around the town so i say we get rid of this problem now and lynch him. Sure posting in lyrics and poems is cool as a joke and sure it can be fun, but its not very pro town and makes it hard to get a read on someone. infact joking and trolling is a great way to be active without contributing at all. sooooooooooooo
##vote NotChezinu


The problem with Sevryn is that IMO he appears scummy despite alignment.

However, this post is completely in line with how he posted in MLP as scum before he went inactive and was replaced. We need to keep an eye on him as well.

I dunno where Incog is but I imagine as a vet he needs to get in and stop lurking.


risk.nuke and supersoft haven't done anything either, granted supersoft rarely does anything and I have no idea who risk.nuke is.

None of these players warrant a vote yet but IMO all of them need to be prodded into providing their opinions and becoming active. If this town dies because of inactivity I'll be pissed.


rofl
Sevryn
Profile Joined September 2010
698 Posts
September 29 2011 03:09 GMT
#362
On September 29 2011 12:06 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2011 12:05 Sevryn wrote:
On September 29 2011 12:01 wherebugsgo wrote:
There's nothing really left to say on Jackal (I am gonna be ignoring him for real now since he isn't doing anything productive but you all can ask me questions if you so desire)

Moving on to some people I think deserve attention, probably since they don't want it:

Curu

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=266305&user=62066

Curu has disappeared since earlier and his vote is useless. He hasn't contributed anything yet to the discussion yet, despite being around for LoTR and there being plenty to talk about. This doesn't sit well with me knowing how he played scum in both XLIV and MLP, and as town in Ace's SMG. In SMG he was pretty open about thinking I was scum and he was very bold and productive as town. In both XLIV and MLP he was semi active with a lot of one liners and fluff posts, not really contributing but feigning so. I'll give him some time to come back and clarify things (perhaps he's busy? who knows) but I think it's odd he's gone here but he's around to post the day post in LoTR.

Sevryn:


On September 29 2011 11:16 Sevryn wrote:
okay so NotChezinu pretty much troll all day er'day and to be honest if he doesnt know what his role is thats not the kind of person I would like to have around the town so i say we get rid of this problem now and lynch him. Sure posting in lyrics and poems is cool as a joke and sure it can be fun, but its not very pro town and makes it hard to get a read on someone. infact joking and trolling is a great way to be active without contributing at all. sooooooooooooo
##vote NotChezinu


The problem with Sevryn is that IMO he appears scummy despite alignment.

However, this post is completely in line with how he posted in MLP as scum before he went inactive and was replaced. We need to keep an eye on him as well.

I dunno where Incog is but I imagine as a vet he needs to get in and stop lurking.


risk.nuke and supersoft haven't done anything either, granted supersoft rarely does anything and I have no idea who risk.nuke is.

None of these players warrant a vote yet but IMO all of them need to be prodded into providing their opinions and becoming active. If this town dies because of inactivity I'll be pissed.

In my opinion if there isnt a clear scum day one we should focus on scummy lurkers. NC is just that hes trolling the thread making chaos and not really contributing. Assuming worst case scenario we will be in a LyLo at somepoint and when that happens I would prefer it to be with people who I can read.


NC is not scummy and he's not a lurker either

Im saying hes effectively a lurker because the reason lurkers are bad is because you cant read them. I cant read him one way or the other because all of his posts are trolling/songs/poems
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
September 29 2011 03:11 GMT
#363
On September 29 2011 12:09 Sevryn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2011 12:06 wherebugsgo wrote:
On September 29 2011 12:05 Sevryn wrote:
On September 29 2011 12:01 wherebugsgo wrote:
There's nothing really left to say on Jackal (I am gonna be ignoring him for real now since he isn't doing anything productive but you all can ask me questions if you so desire)

Moving on to some people I think deserve attention, probably since they don't want it:

Curu

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=266305&user=62066

Curu has disappeared since earlier and his vote is useless. He hasn't contributed anything yet to the discussion yet, despite being around for LoTR and there being plenty to talk about. This doesn't sit well with me knowing how he played scum in both XLIV and MLP, and as town in Ace's SMG. In SMG he was pretty open about thinking I was scum and he was very bold and productive as town. In both XLIV and MLP he was semi active with a lot of one liners and fluff posts, not really contributing but feigning so. I'll give him some time to come back and clarify things (perhaps he's busy? who knows) but I think it's odd he's gone here but he's around to post the day post in LoTR.

Sevryn:


On September 29 2011 11:16 Sevryn wrote:
okay so NotChezinu pretty much troll all day er'day and to be honest if he doesnt know what his role is thats not the kind of person I would like to have around the town so i say we get rid of this problem now and lynch him. Sure posting in lyrics and poems is cool as a joke and sure it can be fun, but its not very pro town and makes it hard to get a read on someone. infact joking and trolling is a great way to be active without contributing at all. sooooooooooooo
##vote NotChezinu


The problem with Sevryn is that IMO he appears scummy despite alignment.

However, this post is completely in line with how he posted in MLP as scum before he went inactive and was replaced. We need to keep an eye on him as well.

I dunno where Incog is but I imagine as a vet he needs to get in and stop lurking.


risk.nuke and supersoft haven't done anything either, granted supersoft rarely does anything and I have no idea who risk.nuke is.

None of these players warrant a vote yet but IMO all of them need to be prodded into providing their opinions and becoming active. If this town dies because of inactivity I'll be pissed.

In my opinion if there isnt a clear scum day one we should focus on scummy lurkers. NC is just that hes trolling the thread making chaos and not really contributing. Assuming worst case scenario we will be in a LyLo at somepoint and when that happens I would prefer it to be with people who I can read.


NC is not scummy and he's not a lurker either

Im saying hes effectively a lurker because the reason lurkers are bad is because you cant read them. I cant read him one way or the other because all of his posts are trolling/songs/poems


you could say that about half the players in this game, bar the singing perhaps.

You can't read any of the players I wrote about in the post you quoted (which, btw, includes you)
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
September 29 2011 03:11 GMT
#364
On September 29 2011 12:08 Erandorr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2011 12:01 wherebugsgo wrote:
There's nothing really left to say on Jackal (I am gonna be ignoring him for real now since he isn't doing anything productive but you all can ask me questions if you so desire)

Moving on to some people I think deserve attention, probably since they don't want it:

Curu

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=266305&user=62066

Curu has disappeared since earlier and his vote is useless. He hasn't contributed anything yet to the discussion yet, despite being around for LoTR and there being plenty to talk about. This doesn't sit well with me knowing how he played scum in both XLIV and MLP, and as town in Ace's SMG. In SMG he was pretty open about thinking I was scum and he was very bold and productive as town. In both XLIV and MLP he was semi active with a lot of one liners and fluff posts, not really contributing but feigning so. I'll give him some time to come back and clarify things (perhaps he's busy? who knows) but I think it's odd he's gone here but he's around to post the day post in LoTR.

Sevryn:


On September 29 2011 11:16 Sevryn wrote:
okay so NotChezinu pretty much troll all day er'day and to be honest if he doesnt know what his role is thats not the kind of person I would like to have around the town so i say we get rid of this problem now and lynch him. Sure posting in lyrics and poems is cool as a joke and sure it can be fun, but its not very pro town and makes it hard to get a read on someone. infact joking and trolling is a great way to be active without contributing at all. sooooooooooooo
##vote NotChezinu


The problem with Sevryn is that IMO he appears scummy despite alignment.

However, this post is completely in line with how he posted in MLP as scum before he went inactive and was replaced. We need to keep an eye on him as well.

I dunno where Incog is but I imagine as a vet he needs to get in and stop lurking.


risk.nuke and supersoft haven't done anything either, granted supersoft rarely does anything and I have no idea who risk.nuke is.

None of these players warrant a vote yet but IMO all of them need to be prodded into providing their opinions and becoming active. If this town dies because of inactivity I'll be pissed.


rofl


sup Erandor, mind doing something productive?
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
September 29 2011 03:12 GMT
#365
I always mislynch Town day 1. So I'm not leading any lynches today.

If you take a look again at all my scum games I am very rawr rawr day 1 because I know I can get a Townie lynched and get away with it. tbh I haven't even read most of the thread yet, busy busy.
wat
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
September 29 2011 03:12 GMT
#366
Oh look Curu showed up when he was called out

too bad that tells us nothing about you, Curu. You gotta do what I asked of Erandor too.
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
September 29 2011 03:13 GMT
#367
I think you're scum, does that count?
wat
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
September 29 2011 03:14 GMT
#368
I dunno, do you have a reason?

Are you gonna vote me?
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
September 29 2011 03:15 GMT
#369
Yes I do!

And maybe, depending on Palmar.
wat
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
September 29 2011 03:16 GMT
#370
okay, let's hear it.

Seeing as we haven't really seen any reasons from you yet.

Unless, of course, you count past coincidence as a reason
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
September 29 2011 03:17 GMT
#371
Maybe later. I am tired and we got an extended day. sup.
wat
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
September 29 2011 03:17 GMT
#372
wait wut how do we have an extended day?
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
September 29 2011 03:18 GMT
#373
On September 29 2011 12:11 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2011 12:08 Erandorr wrote:
On September 29 2011 12:01 wherebugsgo wrote:
There's nothing really left to say on Jackal (I am gonna be ignoring him for real now since he isn't doing anything productive but you all can ask me questions if you so desire)

Moving on to some people I think deserve attention, probably since they don't want it:

Curu

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=266305&user=62066

Curu has disappeared since earlier and his vote is useless. He hasn't contributed anything yet to the discussion yet, despite being around for LoTR and there being plenty to talk about. This doesn't sit well with me knowing how he played scum in both XLIV and MLP, and as town in Ace's SMG. In SMG he was pretty open about thinking I was scum and he was very bold and productive as town. In both XLIV and MLP he was semi active with a lot of one liners and fluff posts, not really contributing but feigning so. I'll give him some time to come back and clarify things (perhaps he's busy? who knows) but I think it's odd he's gone here but he's around to post the day post in LoTR.

Sevryn:


On September 29 2011 11:16 Sevryn wrote:
okay so NotChezinu pretty much troll all day er'day and to be honest if he doesnt know what his role is thats not the kind of person I would like to have around the town so i say we get rid of this problem now and lynch him. Sure posting in lyrics and poems is cool as a joke and sure it can be fun, but its not very pro town and makes it hard to get a read on someone. infact joking and trolling is a great way to be active without contributing at all. sooooooooooooo
##vote NotChezinu


The problem with Sevryn is that IMO he appears scummy despite alignment.

However, this post is completely in line with how he posted in MLP as scum before he went inactive and was replaced. We need to keep an eye on him as well.

I dunno where Incog is but I imagine as a vet he needs to get in and stop lurking.


risk.nuke and supersoft haven't done anything either, granted supersoft rarely does anything and I have no idea who risk.nuke is.

None of these players warrant a vote yet but IMO all of them need to be prodded into providing their opinions and becoming active. If this town dies because of inactivity I'll be pissed.


rofl


sup Erandor, mind doing something productive?


Allright :

Bugs first says "Jackal isnt worth my attention "
then Jackal votes bug
Bugs then says " OMG FUCK YOU SCUM"
Bugs then tunnels and is ultra defensive
Bugs gets called out on that
Bugs then says "naaah that dude isnt worth my attention imma concentrate on a newbie and a lurker"
= either bad town play or bad scum play

= rofl

I am going to bed , good night everyone
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
September 29 2011 03:19 GMT
#374
On September 29 2011 12:18 Erandorr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2011 12:11 wherebugsgo wrote:
On September 29 2011 12:08 Erandorr wrote:
On September 29 2011 12:01 wherebugsgo wrote:
There's nothing really left to say on Jackal (I am gonna be ignoring him for real now since he isn't doing anything productive but you all can ask me questions if you so desire)

Moving on to some people I think deserve attention, probably since they don't want it:

Curu

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=266305&user=62066

Curu has disappeared since earlier and his vote is useless. He hasn't contributed anything yet to the discussion yet, despite being around for LoTR and there being plenty to talk about. This doesn't sit well with me knowing how he played scum in both XLIV and MLP, and as town in Ace's SMG. In SMG he was pretty open about thinking I was scum and he was very bold and productive as town. In both XLIV and MLP he was semi active with a lot of one liners and fluff posts, not really contributing but feigning so. I'll give him some time to come back and clarify things (perhaps he's busy? who knows) but I think it's odd he's gone here but he's around to post the day post in LoTR.

Sevryn:


On September 29 2011 11:16 Sevryn wrote:
okay so NotChezinu pretty much troll all day er'day and to be honest if he doesnt know what his role is thats not the kind of person I would like to have around the town so i say we get rid of this problem now and lynch him. Sure posting in lyrics and poems is cool as a joke and sure it can be fun, but its not very pro town and makes it hard to get a read on someone. infact joking and trolling is a great way to be active without contributing at all. sooooooooooooo
##vote NotChezinu


The problem with Sevryn is that IMO he appears scummy despite alignment.

However, this post is completely in line with how he posted in MLP as scum before he went inactive and was replaced. We need to keep an eye on him as well.

I dunno where Incog is but I imagine as a vet he needs to get in and stop lurking.


risk.nuke and supersoft haven't done anything either, granted supersoft rarely does anything and I have no idea who risk.nuke is.

None of these players warrant a vote yet but IMO all of them need to be prodded into providing their opinions and becoming active. If this town dies because of inactivity I'll be pissed.


rofl


sup Erandor, mind doing something productive?


Allright :

Bugs first says "Jackal isnt worth my attention "
then Jackal votes bug
Bugs then says " OMG FUCK YOU SCUM"
Bugs then tunnels and is ultra defensive
Bugs gets called out on that
Bugs then says "naaah that dude isnt worth my attention imma concentrate on a newbie and a lurker"
= either bad town play or bad scum play

= rofl

I am going to bed , good night everyone


fail Jackal never voted me
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
September 29 2011 03:20 GMT
#375
seriously you guys are hilarious.

you don't even know what OMGUS is. It's really quite funny
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
September 29 2011 03:21 GMT
#376
Did you get hit by something? I know you are not retarded O.o
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
September 29 2011 03:24 GMT
#377
oh and for now ##Vote bugs so you can OMGUS me and do have to rage about all those newbs misusing that apparantly very strictly defined term <3
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
September 29 2011 03:26 GMT
#378
On September 29 2011 12:24 Erandorr wrote:
oh and for now ##Vote bugs so you can OMGUS me and do have to rage about all those newbs misusing that apparantly very strictly defined term <3


townie #2

how many more before Jackal votes me?

taking bets now
Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
September 29 2011 03:28 GMT
#379
Dear town, please ignore wherebugsgo. If he starts making sense and stops making a bunch of baseless assumptions maybe I'll start listening to him. Until then, he's just taking up space and has 1/6 of all the posts in this thread. None of them are very interesting.

Also stop using gimmicky words like "OMGUS" and "meta". They're mostly meaningless terms people tack onto their "analyses" to make them look legitimate. I am not going to tolerate this nonsense. Unless you make some real arguments I will just ignore you or squish you like a bug, depending on how ridiculous you are.

Note that there is likely a lot of KP this game. Which should be fun if you are a vig, as there are plenty of nice juicy targets lying around.

Don't be afraid of PMs. As long as you watch yourself and don't do anything stupid, there's no reason not to take advantage of this resource. Can mafia manipulate? If you keep a healthy dose of skepticism and firmly ground your reasoning in logic, it is actually difficult for mafia to manipulate you. In fact, mafia love it when they can see every little thing that is going on in the thread. While PMs have the reputation for being a playground for manipulation and devious scheming, you just have to back off and look at things objectively and you'll be fine.

The main reason PMs are a huge benefit for the town is that it allows us to conceal our actions. In a no-PM game, the mafia have a very good idea of what people are thinking. Generally, most people will be on the wrong track, and occasionally a few will be on the right track. Since no information is withheld from them, they can accurately make informed decisions on night kills and general posting strategy in order to mislead the town and eliminate anyone who could possibly oppose them. If you skillfully use PMs, however, the mafia are unable to accurately judge how active and dangerous you actually are and will be forced to be proactive in PMs and in the thread in order to collect information. Of course, this is inherently uncomfortable for them, as it conflicts their inherent desire to hide. Everyone knows that "mafia start out with an information advantage over the town", but hardly anyone recognizes that mafia needs to maintain that advantage if they want to stay competitive as the game goes longer. Using a healthy dose of PMs makes it that much harder for them to stay on top of the ball. If anything, its easier to manipulate the mafia in PMs than the other way around.

With that said, unless something interesting happens (please feel free to let me know if you find anything), I'll be moving to PM land for now. Be back after the day post.
The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
September 29 2011 03:30 GMT
#380
On September 29 2011 12:28 Incognito wrote:
Dear town, please ignore wherebugsgo. If he starts making sense and stops making a bunch of baseless assumptions maybe I'll start listening to him. Until then, he's just taking up space and has 1/6 of all the posts in this thread. None of them are very interesting.

Also stop using gimmicky words like "OMGUS" and "meta". They're mostly meaningless terms people tack onto their "analyses" to make them look legitimate. I am not going to tolerate this nonsense. Unless you make some real arguments I will just ignore you or squish you like a bug, depending on how ridiculous you are.


I'm so scared bro
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