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@Calgar
The one who's bugging me the most is eSpi.Casey. His first few post are just going with the thread flow,
agree with stuff and jumping on Vayne when the thread was against him. He states that Vayne is his #2 scumread after giving a light scumread on shirokami just because shiro wasn't posting very much at the start. Casey easily backs off his scumread on shiro when shiro starts to post, but he doesn't vote Vayne, he votes FloWcaster. His posts show that he want to vote for a "safe" target, not a player he has a scumread on. Highlighted in the underlined.
On May 06 2013 05:36 eSpi.Casey wrote:
Im trying to figure out who i should be voting for, but i find it pretty hard, i still think vayne seem`s scummy, Flowcaster seems to be replaced. I think its to little content to find a good scumread and vote for. Im tempted to vote for Vayne, but if he flip`s town we will have a total caos on day2, i put my vote on Flowcaster for now, i will be reading here before the day ends, and might change my vote from what i read and how the game evolves On May 06 2013 05:50 eSpi.Casey wrote:
Its not my final vote, as i said im tempted to vote Vayne , but i want to see how this develops the last hours, while i try read some filters and hopefully be able to place a vote a little more secure then i feel now, would be really bad if Vayne, or someone else turns town, its pretty much chaos now, and D2 would be really bad if we lynch a townnie Casey seems to sail between a JarJar lynch and a Vayne lynch. I also don't like how he belittled himself in the underlined. Town wants people to listen to them so there's no reason to give others reasons to ignore you. But if you are scum, everyone ignoring your posts makes it easier for you to blend in. On May 06 2013 07:37 eSpi.Casey wrote:
##Unvote : Flowcaster
##Vote : JarJarDrinks
Jarjar and Vayne seems as the most scumming once for me, with jarjar as the scummiest, jarjar have barly contributed, Vayne says he will contribute, but not before D2, atleast he seems more active then jarjar, im looking forward to see what you come up with on D2 Veyne, if your still here. Tomorrow i have free from work and will spend much time analytic post/filters and try to contribute more then i have done soo far. I think maybe i should have obs`ed a game before i started playing, this was a bit harder then i expected, but il try to keep up. He sees that a JarJar lynch is coming, and secures the misslynch by voting on him. All he has for night one is a post, where he accuses jrkirby, who was gathering some pressure in the thread, and agrees with HydraGod. If it wasn't already clear, I think eSpi.Casey is scum.
@HydraGod
On May 06 2013 03:52 jampidampi wrote:
JarJarDrinks has only tunneled me. Reading a past town game from him, he's perfectly capable of thinking multiple people at the same time, yet here he doesn't do that. JarJar is clinging on to a single thing I said, and doesn't even consider other things I say, not to mention everything everyone else says. The bolded part was what made me think he is scum. This was his last post at the time. Most of JarJars better posts came after that point, while I was asleep. Townies can tunnel, but they shouldn't ignore everything else that is happening.
As for my take on Sugarfluff, he was a bit wishywashy at the start, but seems to have some decent analysis.I have a pending question for him and his answear might make his alingment a little bit more clear. For now, he is null.
Targe on the other hand, is suspicious. He has some good points, but he doesn't draw conclusions. A prime example is his analysis on Vayne, shirokami and Sugarfluff in his list post.
On May 06 2013 07:05 Targe wrote:
Looks like jarjar's eating this lynch, I was hoping the voting would put some pressure on him to explain himself but he hasn't responded, annoying, if he turns out to be town that is a wasted day and a lynch, we'll be giving scum breathing room for another day.
Casey and Spicy, you really need to change your votes, flowcaster is pointless as he is about to be modkilled. Calgar, don't switch to flowcaster, that's a terrible idea because of his modkilling. Look at this post. It seems as though he knew JarJar would be lynched and flip town. He leaves a pressure vote as his final vote of the day, later claims that he would have removed it and that there were only two votes on JarJar when he leaved (there where actually four), while wanting Casey and Spicy to change their votes. How do their votes matter if he thinks JarJar will be lynched?On May 06 2013 15:25 Targe wrote:
ffs I wish I had seen that discussion and hadn't gone to bed, I only wanted to put pressure on jarjar but he posted after I went to sleep. The bolded seems off. Isn't getting people to post and thus slip up if they are scum the purpose of pressure? Targe also jumps defensive the instant he believes he is accused. I'd say he is scum.
@Vayne
I swear I will lynch you if don't deliver with the analysis on day two. Even if this is your normal playstyle, not giving reasoning to the things you say is so god damn antitown it hurts.
Making this post took longer than anticipated, so good night, hopefully I'm alive when day two rolls around.
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@jampidampi
I still don't see why you preferred to vote JarJar. Come to think of it it looks like OMGUS. I no longer have a townread on you.
Spicydinosaur's defense is unexpectedly good, not sure about him anymore. Unless he talked to his coach about how to react to a case against him, and he told him to keep calm and simply cooperate I'd say his recent reactions are genuinely town.
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I put my vote on Flowcaster because i felt i diddent have good enough scumreads atm, i was waiting for some more post to come near the deadline, i went with the flow and voted Jarjar as there was ok post vs him at the time, not saying they were to good(obvious) but from what i could tell. You voted jarjar yourself.
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@hydra, what do you think jampi's analysis itself though?
I like jampi's analysis so far, I really don't like Casey's play, but I'm especially concerned because I am not feeling his play is bad townie, but rather more like scum. I really was bothered by how he basically sidestepped me when I literally screamed at him to change his vote from flowcaster to someone else. And I don't like how it ended up with jarjar...
Spoilered interaction between me and Casey for my own reading pleasure and you guys if you want.
+ Show Spoiler +On May 06 2013 05:36 eSpi.Casey wrote:
Im trying to figure out who i should be voting for, but i find it pretty hard, i still think vayne seem`s scummy, Flowcaster seems to be replaced. I think its to little content to find a good scumread and vote for. Im tempted to vote for Vayne, but if he flip`s town we will have a total caos on day2, i put my vote on Flowcaster for now, i will be reading here before the day ends, and might change my vote from what i read and how the game evolves On May 06 2013 05:37 nobodywonder wrote:
NOOOO, casey! don't vote Flowcaster, it's the easy way out. This is really scummy.
CHANGE IT NOW... WORK HARDER On May 06 2013 05:42 nobodywonder wrote:
casey, I assume you are here. If you try to avoid me now, you are my prime scumread. Unvote now and vote for someone else.
or at least talk to me casey. On May 06 2013 05:50 eSpi.Casey wrote:
Its not my final vote, as i said im tempted to vote Vayne , but i want to see how this develops the last hours, while i try read some filters and hopefully be able to place a vote a little more secure then i feel now, would be really bad if Vayne, or someone else turns town, its pretty much chaos now, and D2 would be really bad if we lynch a townnie On May 06 2013 05:55 nobodywonder wrote:
ok good, thanks for responding casey. well, why don't you lay down the heat then. poke and prod vayne then, ask him questions and see how they develop and if you like them. don't be passive.
i look forward to reading analysis from you. any analysis is fine. don't worry about how accurate it may be. don't be afraid to be wrong. just get it out and i'll help analyze the ideas and we can discuss.
as for voting
@spicydino change your from flowcaster and vote someone else
@jrkirby vote dammnit
@flowcaster are you alive? On May 06 2013 05:56 nobodywonder wrote:
@casey, what do you think about jarjar because right now he is going to be lynched. what do you think about his behavior and his voters? On May 06 2013 06:59 nobodywonder wrote:
well i gtg, gl town gl gl [B]On May 06 2013 07:37 eSpi.Casey wrote:
##Unvote : Flowcaster
##Vote : JarJarDrinks
Jarjar and Vayne seems as the most scumming once for me, with jarjar as the scummiest, jarjar have barly contributed, Vayne says he will contribute, but not before D2, atleast he seems more active then jarjar, im looking forward to see what you come up with on D2 Veyne, if your still here. Tomorrow i have free from work and will spend much time analytic post/filters and try to contribute more then i have done soo far. I think maybe i should have obs`ed a game before i started playing, this was a bit harder then i expected, but il try to keep up.
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No posting until the dawn post
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![[image loading]](http://www.yoursportsadvisors.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/RyanMillerKickSaveKrunch-Front2-208x300.jpg) Day Two
As the second day of elections broke, the denizens of Breakfaston found phagga sitting amongst bits of trash. Strips of cardboard with duct tape attached to them were strewn all over the ground with nary a grain of cereal to be found. His cheeks were puffed out and full. Furious at his breaking the election protocol, the citizens asked him what he was doing. phagga looked right, then left, then right again. He shrugged his shoulders and spit out bits of cereal as he answered in a soft muffled voice, "I ront no.... I as ungy." Looking down they realized that phagga had eaten a whole box by himself. Carefully examining the bits he left unchewed, the citizens realized that jampidampi was no more.
jampidampi the Miller has died.
It is now Day Two. The cycle ends in 48 hours.
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GG, best of luck to town.
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great break for us, if cop sees mafia now you pretty much have to tell us. No way theres more than one miller...any mafia findings must be brought forward.
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wow jampi's dead and no one says anything...
*sigh* i literally have no idea who is town... jampi was my strongest townread. i feel lost more, I hope I can figure stuff tomorrow and I'll try to post analyses.
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I haven't been reading very attentively the other day. I realize I wrote that I had Targe as town but then started giving reasons for Vayne looking town when asked by jampi. For some reason I've mixed up Targe with Vayne.
To answer deceased jampidampi's question to me about why I think Targe is town, I don't aymore. He pretty much did what I called Spicydinosaur out for doing, coasting on the non-poster, jumping on jarjar and then, which is pretty bad going into lurker mode. Then claiming his vote was only for pressure. I don't mind if we lynch Targe today.
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Shirokami why are you focusing on that no-lynch thing and how can you be frustrated about Targe's play in light of JarJar flipping town, and him not being on that wagon?
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EBWOP: About Vayne's play sorry
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On May 07 2013 03:34 nobodywonder wrote:
@Hydra Hi, good I like your posting so far. Keep it up. What did you think about the outcome of the JarJar lynch? There may be a mafia on it perhaps so I'm very suscipious of casey. I also don't like the last minute random voting between jrkirby and spicydinosaur. that was weird.
Mafia would prefer not to be on the mislynch wagon but it's not a big enough priority to warrant acting weird about it.
Why are you suspicious of casey and not the others on the wagon?
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On May 07 2013 22:07 shirokami wrote:
So. I was role blocked.
if you're going to claim a PR role when you did not need to, you will need to elaborate. You're as good as dead tonight so...
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I really want to hear more from eSpi.Casey as I'm going through his filter and it seems quite bare. He's only had 2 real reads on vayne and shirokami but that was early in D1.
On May 05 2013 08:12 eSpi.Casey wrote:
@ VayneAuthority : I try to put focus to other players, giving you a break and time to put up a post with some good content, but you keep posting short post with little or non content. Q : Can you explain why you would vote Targe ? I agree he have not posted much yet, but hard to read either town or scum from what he have posted..
@ shirokami You have barly contributed at all, and from what you say so far, you are not willing to post anything. And you want to wait to the very end before we see a good post from you ? I do not like this, and if you dont post some content before this you are for me the biggest scum for now, with Vayne as number 2. I will contiune read filters and update here, and i hope you do aswell
His reasoning for voting jarjar seems extremely light with no real weight behind his opinion. The bolded part being his only reasoning for him. I want eSpi.Casey to actually explain his voting and give more opinions today. Right now he's looking pretty bad.
On May 06 2013 07:37 eSpi.Casey wrote:
##Unvote : Flowcaster
##Vote : JarJarDrinks
Jarjar and Vayne seems as the most scumming once for me, with jarjar as the scummiest, jarjar have barly contributed, Vayne says he will contribute, but not before D2, atleast he seems more active then jarjar, im looking forward to see what you come up with on D2 Veyne, if your still here. Tomorrow i have free from work and will spend much time analytic post/filters and try to contribute more then i have done soo far. I think maybe i should have obs`ed a game before i started playing, this was a bit harder then i expected, but il try to keep up.
@targe, I'd like to hear your response to both my accusations and jampidampi.
@nobody, I have a hard time figuring you out. On one hand you are very active and ask questions to stir discussion. However you seem very guarded when it comes to your opinions of others. I'd like if you gave more meaty opinion on some of the other players. Though overall right now you are not on my radar.
@vayne, I think is town for now. I've already talked about him in one of my previous posts, but I'll give a quick summary. I like how hes active, gives opinions, and asks questions. My only real concern is his withholding information though I think he will not be doing that anymore as it tended to piss a large number of us off.
@shirokami, You are back on my radar. Initially I was upset with shirokami for his delayed postings. Once he started posting, I focused on others. But looking at his filter now, it lacks real content. He seemed to be focusing all his D1 posts against Vayne and only talking generally about the others. I would like to see more fleshed out opinions of others in the coming day. Lastly, this statement is troubling.
On May 07 2013 22:07 shirokami wrote:
So. I was role blocked.
Others have touched up on this but I'd like shirokami to explain why he said that and hope this helps town. I know this is his first game and I hope he's just a newbie townie.
So right now Casey and targe are my to top scums.
I'll post more about others later.
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@Spicy, I'll reply tonight when I have some free time.
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On May 07 2013 22:13 VayneAuthority wrote:if you're going to claim a PR role when you did not need to, you will need to elaborate. You're as good as dead tonight so...
Suppose a vanilla townie gets targeted by roleblocker, does the VT get notified?
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On May 08 2013 00:02 AllHailHydraGod wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2013 22:13 VayneAuthority wrote:On May 07 2013 22:07 shirokami wrote:
So. I was role blocked. if you're going to claim a PR role when you did not need to, you will need to elaborate. You're as good as dead tonight so... Suppose a vanilla townie gets targeted by roleblocker, does the VT get notified?
Yes.
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Well that was quick. Vayne stop lurking and only posting when you're PR fishing, it makes me change my mind about you.
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