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DoYouHas
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1140 Posts
May 03 2012 19:28 GMT
#321
How can something be both confrontational and empty? I could just quote everything you say and then say "Nuh-uh". Palmar's posting has essentially been one step above that.

I have never played with Palmar before, but I do know he is a recognized player that people are going to listen to for no other reason than his name. If any unknown player was to post like Palmar has so far he would be tuned out until he starting making real contributions. The fact that Palmar is supposed to be a decent player but shows no interest in contributing is anti-town to me.

As for shutting down conversation instead of promoting it. Marvel and Matt both tried to engage Palmar only to be deflected or belittled by him. It may be true, as you say, that Palmar playing anti-town has gotten me talking. But that is hardly the act of a townie. To intentionally act anti-town in order to draw people to attacking you is something I have only ever seen once before from a townie. It was bad then and got him killed. It is bad now if that is what Palmar is doing.

The one point I will grant you is that I obviously have a read on Palmar (anti-town) or I would not have voted him.

I'm just as guilty of holding Palmar to a different standard as the rest of you. The difference being that while I see some of you excusing him posting crap because of his reputation, I see someone who has the potential to lead the town but is instead acting against the town. That is enough for me to vote him.
Guts? Determination? $5?
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
May 03 2012 19:30 GMT
#322
On May 04 2012 04:15 grush57 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 03:39 blubbdavid wrote:
I am still waiting for grush to be useful. But going through his filter in other games, my hopes will be smited.
Palmar looks like a good lynch candidate too, because he 1) isn't townielike, 2) isn't making much sense 3) voted for me without reasoning.

I assume we still have 24h+ for voting?


Common atleast my useless posts are funny unlike yours. Plus, you didn't understand the situation of that game I played(I'm the same role this game too).

Anyways, I'm not sure what to make of the last 3 pages. It is full of useless posts and spam and Bill Murray didn't even start yet.
Several posts saying nothing except that "I'm town, trust me i gotta go.... eat?" (Like this post except im not hungry atm :D)

For my reasoning of Katina vote, the game just started and blazinghand was accusing Katina for his scumminess, and I agreed so I voted for him, plus I wanted to get the ball rolling. Granted, I realize now this was a dumbshit move that was scummy,and that is my horrible reasoning for it. If you don't like it, Sorry.

I would vote you blubbdavid, but I have enough people witchhunting me now.(And I didn't even rage on ladder how unlucky am I?)
Though, I could just filter and quote everything and that would get the job done.


This post speaks all kind of scumminess to me. In regards to the bolded part Isn't town motivation to hunt and kill scum? Not to stay alive? If he was town and really thought blubb was scum wouldn't he push his opinions and vote him? It sounds like, I can't really bring any more negative attention to me until this bit of people chasing me dies off. Plays off a lot of fluff trying to make himself seem likeable and buddy buddy with people, as well as apologetic at the same time. Really scummy looking post to me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
May 03 2012 19:33 GMT
#323
I agree, we should vote you off, one less scum and who cares about surviving?
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
May 03 2012 19:43 GMT
#324
On May 04 2012 04:28 DoYouHas wrote:
How can something be both confrontational and empty? I could just quote everything you say and then say "Nuh-uh". Palmar's posting has essentially been one step above that.

I have never played with Palmar before, but I do know he is a recognized player that people are going to listen to for no other reason than his name. If any unknown player was to post like Palmar has so far he would be tuned out until he starting making real contributions. The fact that Palmar is supposed to be a decent player but shows no interest in contributing is anti-town to me.

As for shutting down conversation instead of promoting it. Marvel and Matt both tried to engage Palmar only to be deflected or belittled by him. It may be true, as you say, that Palmar playing anti-town has gotten me talking. But that is hardly the act of a townie. To intentionally act anti-town in order to draw people to attacking you is something I have only ever seen once before from a townie. It was bad then and got him killed. It is bad now if that is what Palmar is doing.

The one point I will grant you is that I obviously have a read on Palmar (anti-town) or I would not have voted him.

I'm just as guilty of holding Palmar to a different standard as the rest of you. The difference being that while I see some of you excusing him posting crap because of his reputation, I see someone who has the potential to lead the town but is instead acting against the town. That is enough for me to vote him.


If you have not played with Palmar you should read his last like 30 games or so this is pretty much is town meta (See that? That is defending someone. You should learn the difference and then ignore it completely as it is worthless)

Also I have actively played anti town multiple times and once caught the entire scum team because of it so it is not a bad strategy it just requires some form of brains before you actually attempt it.

-D
BlackRaven
Profile Joined April 2012
43 Posts
May 03 2012 19:44 GMT
#325
Other hydra head such a noob

:3
:3
BlackRaven
Profile Joined April 2012
43 Posts
May 03 2012 19:45 GMT
#326
On May 04 2012 04:43 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 04:28 DoYouHas wrote:
How can something be both confrontational and empty? I could just quote everything you say and then say "Nuh-uh". Palmar's posting has essentially been one step above that.

I have never played with Palmar before, but I do know he is a recognized player that people are going to listen to for no other reason than his name. If any unknown player was to post like Palmar has so far he would be tuned out until he starting making real contributions. The fact that Palmar is supposed to be a decent player but shows no interest in contributing is anti-town to me.

As for shutting down conversation instead of promoting it. Marvel and Matt both tried to engage Palmar only to be deflected or belittled by him. It may be true, as you say, that Palmar playing anti-town has gotten me talking. But that is hardly the act of a townie. To intentionally act anti-town in order to draw people to attacking you is something I have only ever seen once before from a townie. It was bad then and got him killed. It is bad now if that is what Palmar is doing.

The one point I will grant you is that I obviously have a read on Palmar (anti-town) or I would not have voted him.

I'm just as guilty of holding Palmar to a different standard as the rest of you. The difference being that while I see some of you excusing him posting crap because of his reputation, I see someone who has the potential to lead the town but is instead acting against the town. That is enough for me to vote him.


If you have not played with Palmar you should read his last like 30 games or so this is pretty much is town meta (See that? That is defending someone. You should learn the difference and then ignore it completely as it is worthless)

Also I have actively played anti town multiple times and once caught the entire scum team because of it so it is not a bad strategy it just requires some form of brains before you actually attempt it.

-D


D is a noob

-D
:3
papapanda
Profile Joined April 2010
Taiwan326 Posts
May 03 2012 19:47 GMT
#327
Grush, you're making me look silly. Please, less attitude and more head.

I will ##unvote blubbdavid, if someone would kindly refer me to his defense.

Thanks Barundar!
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
May 03 2012 20:05 GMT
#328
On May 04 2012 04:15 grush57 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 03:39 blubbdavid wrote:
I am still waiting for grush to be useful. But going through his filter in other games, my hopes will be smited.
Palmar looks like a good lynch candidate too, because he 1) isn't townielike, 2) isn't making much sense 3) voted for me without reasoning.

I assume we still have 24h+ for voting?


Common atleast my useless posts are funny unlike yours. Plus, you didn't understand the situation of that game I played(I'm the same role this game too).

Anyways, I'm not sure what to make of the last 3 pages. It is full of useless posts and spam and Bill Murray didn't even start yet.
Several posts saying nothing except that "I'm town, trust me i gotta go.... eat?" (Like this post except im not hungry atm :D)

For my reasoning of Katina vote, the game just started and blazinghand was accusing Katina for his scumminess, and I agreed so I voted for him, plus I wanted to get the ball rolling. Granted, I realize now this was a dumbshit move that was scummy,and that is my horrible reasoning for it. If you don't like it, Sorry.

I would vote you blubbdavid, but I have enough people witchhunting me now.(And I didn't even rage on ladder how unlucky am I?)
Though, I could just filter and quote everything and that would get the job done.



I like that. BH throws around empty accusations and you jump right on board with this. Looks like a case of something called "Sheeping" Don't worry, it's curable!

BM has been not been his usual posting self lately. He likes to lurk when he is Mafia. He made a few brief posts early on then disappeared into La La land. So that is something to keep an eye on.

I don't like the whole idea of all the vote switching that has been going on here. It's not helpful to the town and brings nothing but confusion and chaos to everyone else. I know it's only day one but at least try to have more than one sentence before getting voting happy.
blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
May 03 2012 20:13 GMT
#329
On May 04 2012 04:44 BlackRaven wrote:
Other hydra head such a noob

:3

You know who really is a noob? Dirk Hardpec.

My defense for asking a stupid question? It was day 1, I was heated after the game finally started. Furthermore:
Kenpachi ALWAYS starts with:

On March 17 2012 10:49 Kenpachi wrote:
hi guys. i had an awesome day outside eating Korean BBQ and playing Billiard with my friends (birthday boy)

gonna go read the thread now.

btw im Kenpachi and im Townie


and
On February 25 2012 08:13 Kenpachi wrote:
GUYS GUYS GUYS
im Kenpachi and im a townie


This time it struck me that he said townie. I forgot that in this game there isn't green vs red but BLU vs RED. So I asked whether he admitted blue role (which was admittedly not very clever of me)

@grush: being "funny" is not very townlike. Being townie is ssrious bisnes.
What do you desire? Money? Glory? Power? Revenge? Or something that surpasses all other? Whatever you desire - that is here. Tower of God ¦¦Nutella, drink of the Gods
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
May 03 2012 20:14 GMT
#330
On May 04 2012 05:05 Katina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 04:15 grush57 wrote:
On May 04 2012 03:39 blubbdavid wrote:
I am still waiting for grush to be useful. But going through his filter in other games, my hopes will be smited.
Palmar looks like a good lynch candidate too, because he 1) isn't townielike, 2) isn't making much sense 3) voted for me without reasoning.

I assume we still have 24h+ for voting?


Common atleast my useless posts are funny unlike yours. Plus, you didn't understand the situation of that game I played(I'm the same role this game too).

Anyways, I'm not sure what to make of the last 3 pages. It is full of useless posts and spam and Bill Murray didn't even start yet.
Several posts saying nothing except that "I'm town, trust me i gotta go.... eat?" (Like this post except im not hungry atm :D)

For my reasoning of Katina vote, the game just started and blazinghand was accusing Katina for his scumminess, and I agreed so I voted for him, plus I wanted to get the ball rolling. Granted, I realize now this was a dumbshit move that was scummy,and that is my horrible reasoning for it. If you don't like it, Sorry.

I would vote you blubbdavid, but I have enough people witchhunting me now.(And I didn't even rage on ladder how unlucky am I?)
Though, I could just filter and quote everything and that would get the job done.



I like that. BH throws around empty accusations and you jump right on board with this. Looks like a case of something called "Sheeping" Don't worry, it's curable!

BM has been not been his usual posting self lately. He likes to lurk when he is Mafia. He made a few brief posts early on then disappeared into La La land. So that is something to keep an eye on.

I don't like the whole idea of all the vote switching that has been going on here. It's not helpful to the town and brings nothing but confusion and chaos to everyone else. I know it's only day one but at least try to have more than one sentence before getting voting happy.


It only brings confusion and chaos if everyone is bad

-D
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
May 03 2012 20:16 GMT
#331
On May 04 2012 00:20 ghost_403 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Sinesis rolled scum.

On May 03 2012 12:23 Sinensis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 09:42 grush57 wrote:
##vote: Katina


SWEET A BANDWAGON IS FORMING! I think I'll hop on it without explaining myself!

Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 10:18 grush57 wrote:
Alright awesome we know the aggressive people now.

##unvote Katina


NEVERMIND, they're onto me!

##vote: grush57

I was not expecting to have a vote so early this game with all the people.


This post screams "I want to look useful to the town without actually thinking about what's going on."

Good Day 1 lynch.

##vote sinesis


Looks like some random dude voted me because my post screams "I want to look useful to the town without actually thinking about what's going on. [sic]"

I like how he mimics the post he has a problem with by explaining himself with the same mock style I use. I don't care about his snap vote at all, let him be useless for all I care.

grush57 did it occur to you that if you are innocent, you don't need to apologize when you explain why you were doing what you were doing? Being apologetic usually means someone has something to be apologetic about, if you know what I mean. I also don't know where you get off thinking your posts are funny; they're not.
BlackRaven
Profile Joined April 2012
43 Posts
May 03 2012 20:16 GMT
#332
On May 04 2012 05:14 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 05:05 Katina wrote:
On May 04 2012 04:15 grush57 wrote:
On May 04 2012 03:39 blubbdavid wrote:
I am still waiting for grush to be useful. But going through his filter in other games, my hopes will be smited.
Palmar looks like a good lynch candidate too, because he 1) isn't townielike, 2) isn't making much sense 3) voted for me without reasoning.

I assume we still have 24h+ for voting?


Common atleast my useless posts are funny unlike yours. Plus, you didn't understand the situation of that game I played(I'm the same role this game too).

Anyways, I'm not sure what to make of the last 3 pages. It is full of useless posts and spam and Bill Murray didn't even start yet.
Several posts saying nothing except that "I'm town, trust me i gotta go.... eat?" (Like this post except im not hungry atm :D)

For my reasoning of Katina vote, the game just started and blazinghand was accusing Katina for his scumminess, and I agreed so I voted for him, plus I wanted to get the ball rolling. Granted, I realize now this was a dumbshit move that was scummy,and that is my horrible reasoning for it. If you don't like it, Sorry.

I would vote you blubbdavid, but I have enough people witchhunting me now.(And I didn't even rage on ladder how unlucky am I?)
Though, I could just filter and quote everything and that would get the job done.



I like that. BH throws around empty accusations and you jump right on board with this. Looks like a case of something called "Sheeping" Don't worry, it's curable!

BM has been not been his usual posting self lately. He likes to lurk when he is Mafia. He made a few brief posts early on then disappeared into La La land. So that is something to keep an eye on.

I don't like the whole idea of all the vote switching that has been going on here. It's not helpful to the town and brings nothing but confusion and chaos to everyone else. I know it's only day one but at least try to have more than one sentence before getting voting happy.


It only brings confusion and chaos if everyone is bad

-D


Im a noob

-D
:3
blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
May 03 2012 20:17 GMT
#333
Yeah, and BM is also a very good lynch candidate. A better one than Palmar atm. Both are acting stereotypically lurking scum and spouting townscumie.
What do you desire? Money? Glory? Power? Revenge? Or something that surpasses all other? Whatever you desire - that is here. Tower of God ¦¦Nutella, drink of the Gods
Nova_Terra
Profile Joined March 2012
Switzerland1190 Posts
May 03 2012 20:44 GMT
#334
On May 04 2012 05:16 Sinensis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 00:20 ghost_403 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Sinesis rolled scum.

On May 03 2012 12:23 Sinensis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 09:42 grush57 wrote:
##vote: Katina


SWEET A BANDWAGON IS FORMING! I think I'll hop on it without explaining myself!

Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 10:18 grush57 wrote:
Alright awesome we know the aggressive people now.

##unvote Katina


NEVERMIND, they're onto me!

##vote: grush57

I was not expecting to have a vote so early this game with all the people.


This post screams "I want to look useful to the town without actually thinking about what's going on."

Good Day 1 lynch.

##vote sinesis


Looks like some random dude voted me because my post screams "I want to look useful to the town without actually thinking about what's going on. [sic]"

I like how he mimics the post he has a problem with by explaining himself with the same mock style I use. I don't care about his snap vote at all, let him be useless for all I care.

But his point is still completely valid
Proud supporter of the Basking Rootwalla
BlackRaven
Profile Joined April 2012
43 Posts
May 03 2012 20:48 GMT
#335
blubb why are you saying a guy who hasn't posted anything is a better target than a guy you think is scum? Especially after your previous comments

:3
:3
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
May 03 2012 21:05 GMT
#336
On May 04 2012 05:17 blubbdavid wrote:
Yeah, and BM is also a very good lynch candidate. A better one than Palmar atm. Both are acting stereotypically lurking scum and spouting townscumie.

rather not. Its day 1 and its really hard to call them lurkers cause they only appeared once.

On May 04 2012 04:30 Mementoss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 04:15 grush57 wrote:
On May 04 2012 03:39 blubbdavid wrote:
I am still waiting for grush to be useful. But going through his filter in other games, my hopes will be smited.
Palmar looks like a good lynch candidate too, because he 1) isn't townielike, 2) isn't making much sense 3) voted for me without reasoning.

I assume we still have 24h+ for voting?


Common atleast my useless posts are funny unlike yours. Plus, you didn't understand the situation of that game I played(I'm the same role this game too).

Anyways, I'm not sure what to make of the last 3 pages. It is full of useless posts and spam and Bill Murray didn't even start yet.
Several posts saying nothing except that "I'm town, trust me i gotta go.... eat?" (Like this post except im not hungry atm :D)

For my reasoning of Katina vote, the game just started and blazinghand was accusing Katina for his scumminess, and I agreed so I voted for him, plus I wanted to get the ball rolling. Granted, I realize now this was a dumbshit move that was scummy,and that is my horrible reasoning for it. If you don't like it, Sorry.

I would vote you blubbdavid, but I have enough people witchhunting me now.(And I didn't even rage on ladder how unlucky am I?)
Though, I could just filter and quote everything and that would get the job done.


This post speaks all kind of scumminess to me. In regards to the bolded part Isn't town motivation to hunt and kill scum? Not to stay alive? If he was town and really thought blubb was scum wouldn't he push his opinions and vote him? It sounds like, I can't really bring any more negative attention to me until this bit of people chasing me dies off. Plays off a lot of fluff trying to make himself seem likeable and buddy buddy with people, as well as apologetic at the same time. Really scummy looking post to me.

hey man nice tunnel vision you got there
hes clearly manly enough to speak what he wants to say.
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
May 03 2012 21:07 GMT
#337
On May 04 2012 06:05 Kenpachi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 04:30 Mementoss wrote:
On May 04 2012 04:15 grush57 wrote:
On May 04 2012 03:39 blubbdavid wrote:
I am still waiting for grush to be useful. But going through his filter in other games, my hopes will be smited.
Palmar looks like a good lynch candidate too, because he 1) isn't townielike, 2) isn't making much sense 3) voted for me without reasoning.

I assume we still have 24h+ for voting?


Common atleast my useless posts are funny unlike yours. Plus, you didn't understand the situation of that game I played(I'm the same role this game too).

Anyways, I'm not sure what to make of the last 3 pages. It is full of useless posts and spam and Bill Murray didn't even start yet.
Several posts saying nothing except that "I'm town, trust me i gotta go.... eat?" (Like this post except im not hungry atm :D)

For my reasoning of Katina vote, the game just started and blazinghand was accusing Katina for his scumminess, and I agreed so I voted for him, plus I wanted to get the ball rolling. Granted, I realize now this was a dumbshit move that was scummy,and that is my horrible reasoning for it. If you don't like it, Sorry.

I would vote you blubbdavid, but I have enough people witchhunting me now.(And I didn't even rage on ladder how unlucky am I?)
Though, I could just filter and quote everything and that would get the job done.


This post speaks all kind of scumminess to me. In regards to the bolded part Isn't town motivation to hunt and kill scum? Not to stay alive? If he was town and really thought blubb was scum wouldn't he push his opinions and vote him? It sounds like, I can't really bring any more negative attention to me until this bit of people chasing me dies off. Plays off a lot of fluff trying to make himself seem likeable and buddy buddy with people, as well as apologetic at the same time. Really scummy looking post to me.

hey man nice tunnel vision you got there
hes clearly manly enough to speak what he wants to say.


It took him like a day and several votes for it to happen. Still scum imo
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
May 03 2012 21:18 GMT
#338
On May 04 2012 05:05 Katina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 04:15 grush57 wrote:
On May 04 2012 03:39 blubbdavid wrote:
I am still waiting for grush to be useful. But going through his filter in other games, my hopes will be smited.
Palmar looks like a good lynch candidate too, because he 1) isn't townielike, 2) isn't making much sense 3) voted for me without reasoning.

I assume we still have 24h+ for voting?


Common atleast my useless posts are funny unlike yours. Plus, you didn't understand the situation of that game I played(I'm the same role this game too).

Anyways, I'm not sure what to make of the last 3 pages. It is full of useless posts and spam and Bill Murray didn't even start yet.
Several posts saying nothing except that "I'm town, trust me i gotta go.... eat?" (Like this post except im not hungry atm :D)

For my reasoning of Katina vote, the game just started and blazinghand was accusing Katina for his scumminess, and I agreed so I voted for him, plus I wanted to get the ball rolling. Granted, I realize now this was a dumbshit move that was scummy,and that is my horrible reasoning for it. If you don't like it, Sorry.

I would vote you blubbdavid, but I have enough people witchhunting me now.(And I didn't even rage on ladder how unlucky am I?)
Though, I could just filter and quote everything and that would get the job done.



I like that. BH throws around empty accusations and you jump right on board with this. Looks like a case of something called "Sheeping" Don't worry, it's curable!

BM has been not been his usual posting self lately. He likes to lurk when he is Mafia. He made a few brief posts early on then disappeared into La La land. So that is something to keep an eye on.

I don't like the whole idea of all the vote switching that has been going on here. It's not helpful to the town and brings nothing but confusion and chaos to everyone else. I know it's only day one but at least try to have more than one sentence before getting voting happy.


Sounds like you're butthurt you got pressured and looked scummy. If you don't like the fact that I'm willing to bust out my big guns early, it's probably because you're a scared scum player. I use all the tools at my disposal to hunt scum, and given that the tools I have are my voice and my vote, I'd be foolish to ignore one of them.

What I did here, what I do every D1, is pro-town. If you can't deal with that, vote yourself and get out of my game.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
May 03 2012 21:23 GMT
#339
On May 04 2012 04:15 grush57 wrote:
I would vote you blubbdavid, but I have enough people witchhunting me now.(And I didn't even rage on ladder how unlucky am I?)
Though, I could just filter and quote everything and that would get the job done.



??? Why not vote him or make a case? What the dicks is this? Oh I know what it is, it's you being scum.

##still totes voting: grush57

Anyone who reads his filter will see he is A) bandwagoning, B) bad and C) making excuses and PRETENDING to make cases and pressure while not actually doing so.
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froggynoddy
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom452 Posts
May 03 2012 21:37 GMT
#340
This thread is mental... BH I agree with your vote on grush, tell me would you rather a Grush or Katina day 1 lynch? what do you think of everyone having a go at Palmar? It seems really odd to me. He has not been posting content, but neither ha he been causing as much chaos as about a half dozen people here. Wouldn't it be nice for scum to get town to lynch Palmar... (assuming he himself is not scum of course)
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