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On December 28 2011 08:42 Dirkzor wrote:
Hi there Cyber! =)
If jay comes back and vote will you vote for him?
Didn't my defence change your mind? You still find me scummy?
Howdy 
The scummiest thing about you is your vote-swapping essentially protected Jay. Your motivation for that is hard to prove short of Jay flipping.
If Jay comes back, I'll be voting for him.
On December 28 2011 08:45 Shraft wrote:
They might as well be disinterested townies. That's why lurkers are so god damn annoying...
@Cyber_cheese
Your vote on hyshes does no good. We aren't going to get him lynched unless this thread suddenly becomes a lot more active and we decide to lynch a lurker. What about the case on GiygaS don't you like?
Lurkers... Lurkers are killing us slowly....
The case on Giygas seems half focused around Jay being scum, which is the same problem I have with my one on Dirkzor.
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On December 28 2011 09:05 Cyber_Cheese wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2011 08:45 Shraft wrote:
They might as well be disinterested townies. That's why lurkers are so god damn annoying...
@Cyber_cheese
Your vote on hyshes does no good. We aren't going to get him lynched unless this thread suddenly becomes a lot more active and we decide to lynch a lurker. What about the case on GiygaS don't you like?
Lurkers... Lurkers are killing us slowly.... The case on Giygas seems half focused around Jay being scum, which is the same problem I have with my one on Dirkzor.
Buddying up/defending jay like GiygaS did is scummy regardless of jay's alignment. Even disregarding that, don't you think his switch in mentality toward seph is very scummy? I think it is.
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I agree that my initial case in giygas was tying (spell?) him with Jay. But several other points have been made against him.
I don't see how my vote swapping protected him in any way. I tried to change away from Seph aprox 16-18 hours (the time might be wrong to tired to check) before lynch. came back 11 hours later with no other votes changed so changed back in order to get a lynch. Combining that with me not being around towards the end of the day to press a switch to jaymade me realize that seph was the best place for my vote.
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Alright i do not want to get mod killed.
I was thinking about the vote on hyshes. His play is pretty anti town. But thinking about it I dont think a vote on him would be good. He would give us no infomation because he doesnt have a lot of posts. I dont like how we are so spread out. For one thing there is not a easy band wagon to lynch a townie.
Im also a bit worrisome of typing. Reading quickly thru the thread people havent voted for me because i have been rather inactive. I was thinking about Giygas. He defended me because the cases were bad and they were. I was not sure how to think of this. On one hand he could be a townie. Whos trying to defend someone who he doesn't see as scummy. But he can also be mafia who is trying to buddy up to a townie so. Like i did in my last game as mafia. Imma try to reread the cases and see what comes up i dont think that hyshes would be the best vote tho.
Even tho his posting is very poor. (at the same time i have not been doing great either) Imma try to reread and give my voice
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On December 28 2011 09:16 Shraft wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2011 09:05 Cyber_Cheese wrote:On December 28 2011 08:45 Shraft wrote:
They might as well be disinterested townies. That's why lurkers are so god damn annoying...
@Cyber_cheese
Your vote on hyshes does no good. We aren't going to get him lynched unless this thread suddenly becomes a lot more active and we decide to lynch a lurker. What about the case on GiygaS don't you like?
Lurkers... Lurkers are killing us slowly.... The case on Giygas seems half focused around Jay being scum, which is the same problem I have with my one on Dirkzor. Buddying up/defending jay like GiygaS did is scummy regardless of jay's alignment. Even disregarding that, don't you think his switch in mentality toward seph is very scummy? I think it is.
I'm not really sure... The Seph vote was nearly unanimous. I feel like Jay is scum, and I don't see why Giygas would openly buddy with scum.
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And all the cases seem to assuming that im scum. Guys how about you make a case independent of that. IF i get voted and flip town then you have shit all to work with. You making huge assumptions.
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yay jay is back... lets lynch him
I agree with you that the hyshes lynch is bad... Or are you agreing with me? anyway we agree
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The way i have been playing lurking like lynching me might not be a bad idea T_T
Unfortunatly for you tho im town so it would go down badly. And my death would produce not much information because my posting has been bad. Imma try to improve. No excuse for it really tho.
IM going to vote for Giygas because i think that hes been suspicius in flip floping opnions
##Vote Giygas
Ill try to check in more
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On December 28 2011 09:48 Cyber_Cheese wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2011 09:16 Shraft wrote:On December 28 2011 09:05 Cyber_Cheese wrote:On December 28 2011 08:45 Shraft wrote:
They might as well be disinterested townies. That's why lurkers are so god damn annoying...
@Cyber_cheese
Your vote on hyshes does no good. We aren't going to get him lynched unless this thread suddenly becomes a lot more active and we decide to lynch a lurker. What about the case on GiygaS don't you like?
Lurkers... Lurkers are killing us slowly.... The case on Giygas seems half focused around Jay being scum, which is the same problem I have with my one on Dirkzor. Buddying up/defending jay like GiygaS did is scummy regardless of jay's alignment. Even disregarding that, don't you think his switch in mentality toward seph is very scummy? I think it is. I'm not really sure... The Seph vote was nearly unanimous. I feel like Jay is scum, and I don't see why Giygas would openly buddy with scum.
Even if they're both scum, openly buddying up only ends up in endless WIFOM. Did he buddy up to defend his scum buddy or did he buddy up in order to make the other player look scummy? It says little about alignment of the player who is being buddied up to (maybe there's some specific cases where you can use it to deduct something, idk). Buddying up is anti-town in itself.
Either way, if you believe jay is scum, switch your vote to him. He has shown that he is back and that he won't be modkilled.
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so with 1½ hours left we are still to divided to lynch anyone... As the three possible people to lynch are quite similar with who i think is scum i can vote whereever
I still believe giygas would be the best lynch but if we can consolidate on one target that would be much better.
Anyone around?
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Yes. I will be up until Wiggles posts the night post.
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EBWOP: I will be around until Wiggles posts the night post.
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I dont know if i can keep awake... Where the fuck is everyone? Misder was here but left, same with Cyber and jay. Giygas is away now aswell
and the rest... well...
Shraft are you happy with either hyshes, giygas or jay?
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I'm here now, I overslept.
My vote on hyshes was a pressure vote, hoping to provoke some kind of reaction or well... anything. I am still suspicious of him. However, I am open to switching to either giygas or jay after skim reading the thread quickly, both are preferable to a no-lynch.
For the record I find giygas more scummy then jay.
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I want GiygaS lynched. I didn't find jay scummy reading his filter, and the cases on him aren't satisfactory either in my opinion.
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Are you fucking kidding me, well it looks like the votes won't change in the next hour, so pay attention to my words guys, as it's more unbaiased opinions.Last question, why does switching opinions on somebody make me scummy?
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It doesn't. It's your changing opinions without anything really changing beside your opinion.
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On December 28 2011 11:03 GiygaS wrote:
Are you fucking kidding me, well it looks like the votes won't change in the next hour, so pay attention to my words guys, as it's more unbaiased opinions.Last question, why does switching opinions on somebody make me scummy?
It's about how contradictory those two posts are. (The first one about not lynching based off of one post and about you looking forward to his defense, and the second one voting for him aggressively even though he barely said anything at all.)
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But then again. You showed your colors. Posting cases and giving you opinion... would not be bad to have you later compared to Jay or Hyshes... But hyshes gain us nothing and jay.. I dont know... could be scum...
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I suppose that ET is going to get modkilled. If he's town, we're going to lose (barring vig hitting scum and successful medic protection). If he comes in and votes last minute, I'd like our vigilante (if we have one) to blow his brains out during the coming night.
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