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Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
November 04 2011 07:50 GMT
#301
Genius being completely predictable again, going stargate once more, this time on one base.
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
Swede
Profile Joined June 2010
New Zealand853 Posts
November 04 2011 07:50 GMT
#302
On November 04 2011 16:38 Whitewing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2011 16:37 Neurosis wrote:
On November 04 2011 16:35 Whitewing wrote:
Also, Moletrap is a moron. Two highest dps units in game the marine and the carrier? He's so wrong it's not even close to accurate.


The carrier IS the highest dps unit in the game.


No it isn't, the thor and the battlecruiser are both higher, and I believe I remember another unit that is higher as well, and that's not counting splash damage units.

Carrier DPS with 8 interceptors (assuming none die): 26.7(+5.3)
Battlecruiser Ground DPS: 35.6(+4.4)
Thor Ground DPS: 46.9(+4.7)

Hell, a charged void ray outdps's the carrier against massive. Immortals do more dps to armored than the carrier does. Ultralisk dps vs. armored is higher than the carrier dps, not counting splash damage.

Carrier dps is actually really terrible for their cost and supply cost.

Where do people keep getting this idea that carriers have the highest dps in the game? What is true is that carriers with all 8 interceptors have the highest dps in the game vs. air units, not counting spells or splash damage, but when you consider that they take 6 supply even this is low dps per supply.


Pretty sure Artosis has said they have the highest DPS a number of times :S
qazadex
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia473 Posts
November 04 2011 07:53 GMT
#303
Fake spire. Genius getting all the wrong units.
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
November 04 2011 07:57 GMT
#304
That void ray was surprisingly cost effective, although the fact that the stargate has done nothing else tampers that somewhat. Kind of a wash.
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-04 07:57:37
November 04 2011 07:57 GMT
#305
On November 04 2011 16:50 Swede wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2011 16:38 Whitewing wrote:
On November 04 2011 16:37 Neurosis wrote:
On November 04 2011 16:35 Whitewing wrote:
Also, Moletrap is a moron. Two highest dps units in game the marine and the carrier? He's so wrong it's not even close to accurate.


The carrier IS the highest dps unit in the game.


No it isn't, the thor and the battlecruiser are both higher, and I believe I remember another unit that is higher as well, and that's not counting splash damage units.

Carrier DPS with 8 interceptors (assuming none die): 26.7(+5.3)
Battlecruiser Ground DPS: 35.6(+4.4)
Thor Ground DPS: 46.9(+4.7)

Hell, a charged void ray outdps's the carrier against massive. Immortals do more dps to armored than the carrier does. Ultralisk dps vs. armored is higher than the carrier dps, not counting splash damage.

Carrier dps is actually really terrible for their cost and supply cost.

Where do people keep getting this idea that carriers have the highest dps in the game? What is true is that carriers with all 8 interceptors have the highest dps in the game vs. air units, not counting spells or splash damage, but when you consider that they take 6 supply even this is low dps per supply.


Pretty sure Artosis has said they have the highest DPS a number of times :S


Oh, then Artosis is just plain wrong, or he's claiming liquipedia is incorrect.
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
November 04 2011 08:06 GMT
#306
Holy crap, I did not expect Genius to be able to beat Nestea.

Nestea had some questionable attacks, but still.
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
November 04 2011 08:09 GMT
#307
On November 04 2011 17:06 Whitewing wrote:
Holy crap, I did not expect Genius to be able to beat Nestea.

Nestea had some questionable attacks, but still.

He played the best I think any Protoss could do against mutas....obviously you can't expand but he was able to keep attacking and such, it was great to see.
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
November 04 2011 08:12 GMT
#308
On November 04 2011 17:09 Ruscour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2011 17:06 Whitewing wrote:
Holy crap, I did not expect Genius to be able to beat Nestea.

Nestea had some questionable attacks, but still.

He played the best I think any Protoss could do against mutas....obviously you can't expand but he was able to keep attacking and such, it was great to see.


Yeah, Nestea was in horrible shape when he got his mutas out after some bad attacks, and Genius saw it coming and was able to prepare for them.
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
qazadex
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia473 Posts
November 04 2011 08:17 GMT
#309
WTF, moletrap is retarded. Winner wins all.
MrKn4rz
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2153 Posts
November 04 2011 08:19 GMT
#310
On November 04 2011 17:17 qazadex wrote:
WTF, moletrap is retarded. Winner wins all.

If MKP wins Supernova ist still #1.
"We don't take kindly to folks who don't take kindly around here..."
Nosforit
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada260 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-04 16:22:33
November 04 2011 16:14 GMT
#311
On November 04 2011 16:57 Whitewing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2011 16:50 Swede wrote:
On November 04 2011 16:38 Whitewing wrote:
On November 04 2011 16:37 Neurosis wrote:
On November 04 2011 16:35 Whitewing wrote:
Also, Moletrap is a moron. Two highest dps units in game the marine and the carrier? He's so wrong it's not even close to accurate.


The carrier IS the highest dps unit in the game.


No it isn't, the thor and the battlecruiser are both higher, and I believe I remember another unit that is higher as well, and that's not counting splash damage units.

Carrier DPS with 8 interceptors (assuming none die): 26.7(+5.3)
Battlecruiser Ground DPS: 35.6(+4.4)
Thor Ground DPS: 46.9(+4.7)

Hell, a charged void ray outdps's the carrier against massive. Immortals do more dps to armored than the carrier does. Ultralisk dps vs. armored is higher than the carrier dps, not counting splash damage.

Carrier dps is actually really terrible for their cost and supply cost.

Where do people keep getting this idea that carriers have the highest dps in the game? What is true is that carriers with all 8 interceptors have the highest dps in the game vs. air units, not counting spells or splash damage, but when you consider that they take 6 supply even this is low dps per supply.


Pretty sure Artosis has said they have the highest DPS a number of times :S


Oh, then Artosis is just plain wrong, or he's claiming liquipedia is incorrect.


Edit, made a mistake. Popular misconception is that carrier has the highest dps in the game. The fact is that they have the best upgrade scaling in the game, not the highest dps.
The time you enjoyed wasting was not wasted time.
K3Nyy
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1961 Posts
November 04 2011 16:18 GMT
#312
On November 05 2011 01:14 Nosforit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2011 16:57 Whitewing wrote:
On November 04 2011 16:50 Swede wrote:
On November 04 2011 16:38 Whitewing wrote:
On November 04 2011 16:37 Neurosis wrote:
On November 04 2011 16:35 Whitewing wrote:
Also, Moletrap is a moron. Two highest dps units in game the marine and the carrier? He's so wrong it's not even close to accurate.


The carrier IS the highest dps unit in the game.


No it isn't, the thor and the battlecruiser are both higher, and I believe I remember another unit that is higher as well, and that's not counting splash damage units.

Carrier DPS with 8 interceptors (assuming none die): 26.7(+5.3)
Battlecruiser Ground DPS: 35.6(+4.4)
Thor Ground DPS: 46.9(+4.7)

Hell, a charged void ray outdps's the carrier against massive. Immortals do more dps to armored than the carrier does. Ultralisk dps vs. armored is higher than the carrier dps, not counting splash damage.

Carrier dps is actually really terrible for their cost and supply cost.

Where do people keep getting this idea that carriers have the highest dps in the game? What is true is that carriers with all 8 interceptors have the highest dps in the game vs. air units, not counting spells or splash damage, but when you consider that they take 6 supply even this is low dps per supply.


Pretty sure Artosis has said they have the highest DPS a number of times :S


Oh, then Artosis is just plain wrong, or he's claiming liquipedia is incorrect.


Liquipedia only shows +1 attack and doesn't take into account the interceptor upgrade. Carriers have the best upgrade scaling in the game. Unupgraded, you're right, there are many units with higher dps. However, a fully upgraded Carrier has the highest dps in the game.


x_x;; Situations with Carriers rarely happen much less 3/3/3 Carriers.
Neverplay
Profile Joined May 2010
Austria532 Posts
November 04 2011 20:57 GMT
#313
IM 4tw
Better light a candle than curse the darkness
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3548 Posts
November 04 2011 23:18 GMT
#314
The one caster with moletrap sounds like the director of "The Room"
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
SoleSteeler
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada5468 Posts
November 05 2011 04:09 GMT
#315
Errr does anyone know if this is live in the studio? Want to go today if it is.
MisterTea
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1047 Posts
November 05 2011 05:49 GMT
#316
i'm pretty sure its all casted from reps
tnud
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden2233 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-05 05:51:16
November 05 2011 05:50 GMT
#317
The stream is live. Kpop atm. Been a while since I watched a GOM cast.. the free quality is as terrible as ever :/ Damn you long distance!
- ಠ_ಠ - | disinfect wrote: AHAHHAHAHA 2DG FUCK ME ALREADY.
heartlxp
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1258 Posts
November 05 2011 06:06 GMT
#318
anyone else actually watching this?
stokes17
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1411 Posts
November 05 2011 06:08 GMT
#319
yea i am, DRG putting on the heat ^^
NPF
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1635 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-05 06:11:46
November 05 2011 06:09 GMT
#320
On November 05 2011 15:06 heartlxp wrote:
anyone else actually watching this?


Yes just not as many as usual plus it's hard work starting a thread when you want to fall asleep lol.

edit: I'm not starting a thread since I'm about to fall asleep watching this on a couch in a minute.
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