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EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5245 Posts
June 15 2012 06:28 GMT
#3021
thanks for the link grush57. amazing.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 15 2012 11:59 GMT
#3022
On June 15 2012 11:14 EchelonTee wrote:
Good thing wiggles didn't get pardoner, eh? xp


yes, indeed. An ability well sat on by you.

[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
June 15 2012 17:48 GMT
#3023
Alright, so...guess it's that time. Currently looking at hyaach and kenpachi, ET confirmed and marv not an option in my mind. Anyone who gets a scummy vibe from him ought to note it, but none of us seem to do so.

Shots seems to have been aimed at more veteran players this entire game, so marv and ET i'd like your thoughts on the remaining scum. I figure I've been left alive because I'm new and have a poor track record of correct reads, so I don't expect to die.

As far as I go, here are my thoughts.

Hyaach
Here's what I had on hyaach before - + Show Spoiler +
On June 13 2012 23:25 austinmcc wrote:
Every time I reread Hyaach, I get the same thing. I'll just point out a few posts or trends that get at me.

He's got a lot of townie looking posts concerning VE/Zealos/Gambit/Wiggles. During the day we lynched VE, he's a fan of voting for scum and having VE shoot the other, and still constantly referencing Wiggles.

This question always strikes me as odd - + Show Spoiler +
On June 05 2012 15:41 Hyaach wrote: Does roleblocker gets notified if they successfully blocked an night action
- Why ask this? Why does town care whether a roleblocker gets notified that he blocked someone with a night action? Although I can't see why mafia would come out and ask this in thread, the question just doesn't sit right with me. Heck, the more I look at it the more this stands out as the most curious thing he's done all game. If he's town, why the heck does he want to know this? If he's mafia, why is he asking this in thread?

The real bit that gets me is the last couple days, where he just switches his stance on wiggles. There's a whole series of posts designed to drive him this idea that Wiggles preference for a Maju lynch over a Manason lynch just wipes the slate clean and leaves Wiggles as town - + Show Spoiler +
On June 08 2012 02:06 Hyaach wrote:
Before I go to bed, i was initially suspicious of Wiggles for his absence and just popping in at the right time jump on the ship that has just sailed off. But his case on Maju over Manason made me thought different. His town to me right now

On June 08 2012 19:10 Hyaach wrote:
But I don't see Wiggles as gf right now but Maju's flip will tell us. He pushed Maju before Manason and now is pushing Maju again.

On June 08 2012 19:53 Hyaach wrote:
Yes Im implying if Maju flips scum wiggles is town.
I'm a little torn with these posts because while it seems like he's trying to bolster wiggles' towncred when maju/mana flip, it also seems like he's way overdoing it. Either he's being more forceful than he was supposed to in pushing this idea, or he's scum and wiggles is town and this is a great set-up to get Wiggles mislynched.

It's also somewhat curious that he's only particularly active when there's a plan afoot. Some nonsensical posts early, but then once we start talking about Zealos/G32/VE he pops up and all of a sudden he's active and takes firm stances. I go off the deep end and he pops up to swim around with me. We hit the final stretch and he pops up to discuss his defense and wiggles' towniness. He doesn't appear to be doing much other than getting active when the thread is active, and even then, he doesn't appear to be adding much of substance, which I don't like.

I'm still of more or less the same mind. We know he wasn't setting up Wiggles for a mislynch, so either he legitimately had a scumread on wiggles or was trying to help boost wiggles's cred. His posts during the VE lynch are either bussing half his team (he was pushing zealos, G32, wiggles) or he's townie. There's also the option that zealos and G32 were marked for death at that point/afk, which makes the bus a little more likely in my mind, because then those two guys aren't of any value to the scumteam and so you can add them to a single bus on wiggles and look extra good.

Kenpachi
Going to read some of his old games I guess. While he may be known for a small filter, his filter the last few days is entirely unhelpful. Ever since serious suspicion got thrown his way, he's shut down. If you guys know whether this is normal kenpachi behavior, let me know. But, whereas early on he'd at least say "x is scummy" and maybe give a reason, recently there's nothing. Wiggles is scummy, hyaach is scummy, shoot em shoot em. Never a reason. Never anything helpful. Never doing anything other than asking what the plan was, except to ask if I why I was towny.

We had a spot-on list as of...two lynches again? A whole real life week of scum seeing that list and knowing that 4/5 of our suspicions were scum. Maju, papa, 2 out of hyaach/ken/wiggles. Apart from wiggles writing a single defense post, there's been nothing more. Nobody challenged that list hard, trying to put me on it, or ET on it, or marv on it. But all scum needed was a single mislynch, so there's got to be some kind of plan here. After we start lynching down the list, Wiggles and Kenpachi turn on each other:

Kenpachi pushing Wiggles - + Show Spoiler +
Okay so...just check his filter. Here's a sample of just the last page of it, but the last 2 pages are pretty "Wiggles is scum"-centric
On June 11 2012 03:44 Kenpachi wrote:
before i die, reflect: why is wiggles town and im scum?

On June 11 2012 03:44 Kenpachi wrote:
i still would like to know why you think my scum buddy wiggles is town

On June 11 2012 03:44 Kenpachi wrote:
i mean, i know hes mafia please explain

On June 11 2012 05:17 Kenpachi wrote:
Mr. Wiggles is Mafia.
Mr. Wiggles is Mafia.
Mr. Wiggles is Mafia.
Mr. Wiggles is Mafia.
Mr. Wiggles is Mafia.
Mr. Wiggles is Mafia.
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Mr. Wiggles is Mafia.
Mr. Wiggles is Mafia.
Mr. Wiggles is Mafia.
Mr. Wiggles is Mafia.
Mr. Wiggles is Mafia.
Mr. Wiggles is Mafia.
Mr. Wiggles is Mafia.
Mr. Wiggles is Mafia.
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Mr. Wiggles is Mafia.
Mr. Wiggles is Mafia.
Mr. Wiggles is Mafia.
Mr. Wiggles is Mafia.
Mr. Wiggles is Mafia.
Mr. Wiggles is Mafia.
Mr. Wiggles is Mafia.
Mr. Wiggles is Mafia.
Mr. Wiggles is Mafia.
Mr. Wiggles is Mafia.

Wiggles pushing Kenpachi - + Show Spoiler +
again, just the last page
On June 08 2012 14:17 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
I went fishing today, so I've been busy for the last 16 hours, and I'm really tired so I'm not going to make a big post right now since I'm going straight to bed. I'm glad we're lynching Maju today, I already posted the reasons I think he's scum in the thread.

##Vote: Maju

If anyone wants me to answer anything for tomorrow, just ask.

Show nested quote +
On June 08 2012 10:56 Kenpachi wrote:
no actually, nulltell i dont get it

It's Day 5, and the best you can say is that you're null? What do you not get?

Show nested quote +
On June 08 2012 10:42 Kenpachi wrote:
##vote: majuGarzett

Show nested quote +
On June 08 2012 10:43 Kenpachi wrote:
so id like an explanation on Maju who is this guy and why is he mafia

wat?

On June 09 2012 07:07 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Based on the process of elimination, the scum team is Maju, Hyaach, papapanda, and Kenpachi.

I'm town, because my role PM says so. MZ and Toad are town. Scum can't be masons, and scum didn't shoot their own member on Night 1 or something equally stupid. I also believe Prob's claim, because I don't think he's ballsy enough to claim DT like that as scum. If he's still alive in two days, I might come back and look again. So for now, he's town.

I currently have town reads on all three of Austin, Marv, and ET.

So, that leaves 4 players, Maju, hyaach, papapanda, and Kenpachi. There's four scum left. GG.

Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 05:45 Kenpachi wrote:
On June 08 2012 14:17 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
I went fishing today, so I've been busy for the last 16 hours, and I'm really tired so I'm not going to make a big post right now since I'm going straight to bed. I'm glad we're lynching Maju today, I already posted the reasons I think he's scum in the thread.

##Vote: Maju

If anyone wants me to answer anything for tomorrow, just ask.

On June 08 2012 10:56 Kenpachi wrote:
no actually, nulltell i dont get it

It's Day 5, and the best you can say is that you're null? What do you not get?

On June 08 2012 10:42 Kenpachi wrote:
##vote: majuGarzett

On June 08 2012 10:43 Kenpachi wrote:
so id like an explanation on Maju who is this guy and why is he mafia

wat?

fuck tell me this is town wiggles with a straight face because i sure as hell cant ( i dont remember it anyways. he's scum too often lolol)

He makes a posting excuse. cant say anything about that but he takes no responsibility. Seriously, as town, id feel pressured to comply to mayor status and actually help town. like wtf? you guys think this guy is town?
What the hell?

How about, instead of avoiding the question, you answer? You even bolded it for yourself. There's no reason you shouldn't be able to have a read on someone one way or the other unless you haven't bothered to read anything (no way we can tell, so that's a lame excuse) or you're purposefully not wanting to give reads (scum). Then add on that you voted for Maju, and a minute later are in the thread asking who he is and why he's scum. That made me go "wtf?" in my head, and that's why I quoted it. What made you decide to do that?

On June 09 2012 08:19 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 07:28 Toadesstern wrote:
well you've got to admit that Wiggles pm that tells him he's town is quite a convincing argument. You've got to be mafia Kenpachi

It's not an argument, I'm just not including myself in a list of suspects when I know I'm town. -_______-

Show nested quote +
On June 09 2012 07:34 austinmcc wrote:
Wiggles' argument is convincing, but then I noticed this post:

On May 27 2012 12:05 Kenpachi wrote:
I be earthulingu


Clearly both town?

Scum could have easily been given the VT role PM. It's likely considering it's not in the OP and there needs to be a way to keep people from bread-crumbing their role PMs to confirm themselves to others with the same role.

Also, Kenpachi, my question isn't a piece of shit, so why don't you answer it? What do you not understand about the case on Maju? After 5 cycles, the best you can really say about him is that you're null? That implies you don't think he's town or scum one way or the other, unless you're just abusing the word null.



Kenpachi basically tunneled Kita half the game, so perhaps he's just doing the same to Wiggles after that point. But there's precious little in their filters on why Hyaach is scum, and a whole lot of focus splitting Wiggles and Kenpachi up. If I'm Ken/Wiggles and I'm scum, I see the list of scum and I know that we've got days and days of time to just get a single mislynch. All we have to do is make it look like one of us is scum and the other isn't. I know if you guys read Hyaach as particularly scummy, this won't do anything for you. But we pushed Hyaach so hard as a scumread that neither Wiggles nor Kenpachi would have had to push him. Not kenpachi's slight pressure "we lynching hyaach today?" at the start of the last day. All they would have had to do would be wait out our hyaach lynch and win.



So...I dunno. I'm still undecided, but leaning more towards Kenpachi. I'd really like to hear from ET/marv tonight before shots, and I guess also from Hyaach and Kenpachi.
Fe fi fo fum.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 15 2012 23:00 GMT
#3024
I went over Ken's filter. I'd have to get a good scumread on him to overturn the one on Hyaach. There's things that leave me too unsure. How he says about papapanda "he's mafia, I just know it". He flips flops on Maju for no reason. "scummy. no, null tell" The way he asks why austin is pro town. Why even bother casting suspicion around?

I can't shake the feeling that Hyaach is mafia. He hasn't done anything to convince otherwise. ET, Toad, and I all came to the same conclusion on him and not even on the exact same reasoning. We're going to talk ourselves out of the correct kill. Hyaach is scum. Mafia characteristic is for scum to be useful at the start and tail away as the game goes on because they cannot find anything to be constructive about, and that fits the bill perfectly here.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-15 23:09:54
June 15 2012 23:05 GMT
#3025
Day 8




EchelonTee was pretty happy to be elected Vice-Leader of earth. Not so the Irken army, upset at their recent loss of numbers. And thus he wast cast into a wormhole.

EchelonTee, the Earthling, is now with a moose!
+ Show Spoiler +

Welcome to TL Mafia LV! You are an Earthling. As a very ordinary and slightly dim witted member of this planet, you don't have any special powers to bring against the Irkens. All you can do is be vigilant and root them out of hiding. You win with Earth. Duh.




It is now Day 4, with 4 alive it takes 3 to lynch! the day ends in 24 hours, on Saturday, Jun 16 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
June 15 2012 23:50 GMT
#3026
wat? i feel im one of the main contributors of wiggles lynch.
you fucking fools
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
June 15 2012 23:56 GMT
#3027
so its gonna be like this. we are going to kill hyaach
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 16 2012 00:23 GMT
#3028
No more paranoia, let's do this.

##Vote: Hyaach
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
June 16 2012 00:24 GMT
#3029
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
June 16 2012 00:32 GMT
#3030
Goodnight, sweet Hyaach.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
June 16 2012 00:44 GMT
#3031
Kenpachi your name needs an extra letter or something so we can make more anagrams with it.

Ice, peach, nice all there, but can't really get anything with the letters each leaves behind.
Fe fi fo fum.
Hyaach
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1737 Posts
June 16 2012 06:07 GMT
#3032
I would vote Kenpachi but that's just me. He wasn't solely responsible for Wiggles lynch. Wiggles was away at the right time far too long. Matter of time before people caught up to him. Wonder why him/Wiggles are not dead since Toad pushed Ken's lynch? Because both are mafia and you guys are too determined to realize its not a 1 vet mafia team. Toad wasn't pushing the wrong lynch. If toad dies while pushing for Kenpachi, that would make Kenpachi look bad. Why make the only guy in your mafia team without a decent filler look bad? No one was ready to lynch Kenpachi at anytime. Just wait it out and he'll win the MYLO because hyaach the town has a bigger target on his back.


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Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
June 16 2012 16:10 GMT
#3033
lawl i never said i was solely responsible for the wiggles lynch.
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
June 16 2012 16:16 GMT
#3034
hey fool. Im the one who suggested the mafia meta was about 2 veterans for this set up. why the hell would i mention that if i was mafia rofl.
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
June 16 2012 23:26 GMT
#3035
Sorry That I'm late, had to run errands T.T

Night post will arrive!!!
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-16 23:48:56
June 16 2012 23:39 GMT
#3036
EndGame

[image loading]


As Hyaach was taken by the crowd to the firing squad, The earthlings found themselves hopeful. Perhaps they could beat back this invasion after all. Hyaach was killed, and his Red Blood spilled down on the street. and earth rejoiced. It was finally saved.

It was then that the earthlings realized that Human blood typically is Red, and that isnt a very good criteria for judging alignment.

"Hey! This guy was one of us!" Shouted out Austinmcc, "Hurry! we need to---"

Marvellosity cut him off with a single laser blast. The earthlings looked up, and saw the full force of the Irken empire bearing down on their planet, the fleet had finally arrived.

Earth...Was no more.

Hyaach, the Earthling, was lynched!

Marvellosity as Invader Tenn (Goon) survived until the endgame!


+ Show Spoiler +
Welcome to TL Mafia LV! You are Invader Tenn. You are a normal Invader chosen for Operation Impending Doom II. Each Night, you may carry out kills on behalf of Irk. here is your QT:


Irken Victory!

Links!
Observer QT
Mafia QT
Toad's Mason QT

Spreadsheet
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 16 2012 23:42 GMT
#3037
gg :D:D

sorry austin, wasn't playing with you, needed to set up kenpachi lynch in case there was a blue protective role i didn't know about
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
jaj22
Profile Joined September 2009
United Kingdom1376 Posts
June 16 2012 23:45 GMT
#3038
Yeah, nice day 2 trick. I had you as #1 for a bit but in the end I decided that Austin was more likely. Should have stuck with the conspiracy theories.



GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
June 16 2012 23:47 GMT
#3039
I actually messed up one of the possible role names in the OP, but couldnt change it after roles went out because people could use that to assume that role was not in the game. Ben was supposed to be "Bill", the paranormal investigator Dib follows around one episode.

I considered making Dib insane, but there were already enough things in the game to mess with DT checks, I felt just the mention of sanitys was enough.

SlOosh was an incredible cohost. He kept the votes update, the spreadsheet going, and posted the small day/nightposts that i would write while i was at the beach. Well done sir
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 16 2012 23:50 GMT
#3040
On June 17 2012 08:45 jaj22 wrote:
Yeah, nice day 2 trick. I had you as #1 for a bit but in the end I decided that Austin was more likely. Should have stuck with the conspiracy theories.





why not ken?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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