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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
![[image loading]](http://www.richardrosenman.com/gallery/photo/projectThumbs/442b5e790c266.jpg) Night One
As the sun set upon Breakfaston, its citizens became especially hungry. Their arguments gave way to their hunger pangs. Shouts left and right over which box of cereal would be the tastiest; unfortunately,during the day the sneaky bastard child of Breakfaston upon Ce'Real, kitaman27 the Old Bitter Coffee had duct taped over all of the boxes so no one could see what their contents were. One citizen grabbed a box cutter, another a butter knife. Geript clanked the Rusty Iron Spoon of Vengeance against his bowl demanding to be fed. After much finger pointing and bickering, the town decided to feed him JarJarDrinks.
JarJarDrinks the Honeycomb (vanilla townie) has been lynched.
Thanks again to geript for the flavor. Day 1 is over; night 1 has begun. Night 1 ends in 24 hours at 02:00 GMT (+00:00). Please send your night actions myself, geript. and phagga.
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
If a replacement for FloWcaster is not found during night one, he will be modkilled at the beginning of day two.
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Well, I'd just like to say I could tell that jarjar was town this time the same way I knew jampidampi was town last game. Because the first person to really start getting BW on the first day is always town, there's no other way the mafia would let it happen. JarJar might eb right in that either me or calgar is scum, but I'm not sure I would put my money on it. But I'm fairly certain at least one of the people who voted for jarjar is scum, and I still think it's nobodywonder.
It's important to know that although quotes are important, votes and flips are the real alignment indicators in the end.
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Vayne, you were talking about how a no lynch would be good, but you never did vote for one. Why?
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On May 06 2013 11:56 jrkirby wrote:
Vayne, you were talking about how a no lynch would be good, but you never did vote for one. Why?
Because I got such a poor reaction from it. Simple as that. I would have gladly no lynched today if it was agreed upon.
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jrkirby, can provide more reasons for nobodywonder being scum? Your analysis on him being scum hinges on shirokami and Espi.Casey being scum. Don't associate before the flip.
gtg, please let there be meaninful posts when I come back.
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ffs I wish I had seen that discussion and hadn't gone to bed, I only wanted to put pressure on jarjar but he posted after I went to sleep.
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God vayne.. A POOR REACTION?! REALLY?!
You can't even stand behind your opinions.
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Fuck. Bad lynch...well time to analyze the votes...
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On May 06 2013 13:30 jampidampi wrote:
jrkirby, can provide more reasons for nobodywonder being scum? Your analysis on him being scum hinges on shirokami and Espi.Casey being scum. Don't associate before the flip.
gtg, please let there be meaninful posts when I come back.
I dont like them either.
jrkirby why am I your top scumread?
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Allright, so I went through the thread again and I'm gonna give my impressions of people I think are scum and others.
So far my scumradar shows kirby and calgar as scumbuddies.
Kirby does very little in the beginning, suspiciously so if you ask me. This doesn't say much, however, since most posts at the very beginning are short and without a lot of content. But he doesn't try and start any discussions and gives short answers. He does make a good post a bit later on were he points his suspicions on nobodywonder, eSpi.Casey, and shirokami.
Lucky for them, they so far have no votes on the entire team. Scum will attempt to distance themselves from each other, but will hate to risk one of them dying on the first day.
Now I found this bit interesting, because I do believe that mafia could play like that, distancing themselves that is, but also if kirby does believe that wouldn't he play mafia that way? As it happens he and Calgar pretty much avoided each other completely in the beginning, not so weird for kirby since he barely did anything but it is weird for Calgar.
Calgar gave his opinion on plenty of people, including lurkers, yet passed over kirby. Instead he focused on me. Which is fine, I don't think my first day posting was very good. But I also think his reaction was a little strong. So these two ignoring each other I found strange.
They did have a conversation towards the end that gives me even more doubt. They both want JarJar off and both think Targe seems more suspicious, but both in fact make no actual attempt to save him, since as mafia they'd know he was town(or SK). The situation was pretty grim for JarJar so in theory if they are scumbuddies one could have voted for JarJar and he would certainly still have gotten lynched, but that is assuming they were worried enough about such suspicions.
On the subject of Targe, my read on this guy isn't very good. He certainly doesn't seem that towny right now, short posts, not a lot of original content. I'd really like to hear Vaynes read on him now, if he has now deemed it acceptable for whatever reason.
Vayne is definitely acting suspiciously, but he is quite active and not afraid answering questions (except for the "I'm not gonna tell yet" incident.) At this point I'd say he's more SK than town, and more town than mafia. But nothing conclusive.
JampiDampi is town, according to me. Probably the person who has done most to get discussions going, and asking for more research material (vaynes previous games). I feel fairly confident in my read of Jampi being town.
Nobodywonder doesn't seem quite town to me, but I feel kirby and Calgar are much stronger suspects. And nobody does ask some questions and try for some discussion. If it would turn out that kirby/calgar can't be mafia nobody would probably be next on my list. As it stands kirbys suspicion (as I believe he is mafia) would make me think nobody is town for now.
Casey and shirokami haven't done that much, about the same as me until now I feel, although their posts have been slightly better. I'd like to see more from both of them soon.
As it is I really don't know who kirby an calgar's third man would be, anyone got any ideas? Think I'm totally off? Let's make the most of the wrong lynch right now so we are well prepared for day 2.
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Keep in mind this is night one and not day 2, its pretty much the same thing as day one. The real game starts after PR roles gain info and people get killed.
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
AllHailHydraGod has replaced FloWcaster. Everybody say hi!
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Sugarfluff, is there any non-jrkirby related reason that Calgar is scum? You really shouldn't associate before the flip.
On May 06 2013 22:06 VayneAuthority wrote:
Keep in mind this is night one and not day 2, its pretty much the same thing as day one. The real game starts after PR roles gain info and people get killed.
Does this mean we won't your reasons for voting Targe until day two?
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Hey!
I'm highly suspicious of Spicydinosaur. His play seems calculated, coasting his vote on the guy who hasn't posted at all for 2/3 of Day 1 so he doesn't have to explain himself much when hopping on a wagon close to deadline.
And the way his vote wound up on flowcaster is also "troubling". See his filter, in posts #3 and #4 he's asking questions which I would interpret as townie but then it's like he doesn't even care about them at all. His # 5 is this:
On May 06 2013 02:22 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Voted for FloWcaster for no postings. Still waiting on a few others analysis to decide if im going to change it. Got a busy day but will hopefully be back in time for deadline.
What happened to his inquiries regarding nobodywonder's reason to vote Vayne.. or shirokami's lack of content and postponing analysis? Does he find them satisfying or scummy or what, he simply votes for pressuring the non-poster instead of pursuing his suspicions, letting people know where he stands.. they must've given him some impression but my hunch is he's not willing to share them because he wants to keep his options of jumping on their wagon open.
His catch-up post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18508502］#6[/url] does not give the impression as if he's interested to find things out. There's something about the way he starts his posts, look:
On May 06 2013 10:21 Spicydinosaur wrote:
It seems at this point that flowcaster is going to be replaced so my vote for him is pointless and im going to change it. For the following reasons i am voting for Targe.
I had suspected shirokami because of his lack of posts, but once he got on he was talkative and gave his opinion.
First off he's like warming up to it by saying his vote on flowcaster is useless. This is either townie realizing he has been playing anti-town or apologetic, cheeky scum. I can't tell but judging by the way he says these are the reasons for voting for Targe .. i don't know, sounds like it's hard for him to do so and he's getting ready to write some fiction.
I mean since scum talk in their QT about who's mislynch to push I feel like this is a coordinated move in that they decided that Targe should be Spicydinosaur's target but he seems like he's working hard to come up with reasons.
But the next sentence is where I think he gave himself away:
On May 06 2013 10:21 Spicydinosaur wrote:
I had suspected shirokami because of his lack of posts, but once he got on he was talkative and gave his opinion.
As I've said he probably kept his options open to jump on one of the two he has questioned, actually, the only 2 people he had any sort of interactions with and even with these folks he didn't bother to comment on their replies to his questions.
So here we see him choosing one of these options. The way the post is designed it's really rather sincere, like saying I was coasting so now I'm voting for one of the two guys I have a few sentences of content against, being extra careful because voting for anyone else would raise questions and scum/I don't like to explain myself.
On May 06 2013 10:21 Spicydinosaur wrote:
I'll be on till vote time if anything needs help understanding.
Understanding what? It's not like he left room for anything to misinterpret, he's scum and it's that simple. Others are concerned about switching the vote because JarJar doesn't seem scummy whereas he is concerned about people understanding his post. In fact I thought him and flowcaster where the scumteam and he used the inactivity of his scumbuddy to distance himself from him knowing well that if he fails to show up he'd get replaced, or that he could easily switch off him once he starts to post. That is not the case though. I'm town and you should sheep me on this one.
I'll go over other people's filters shortly. My general impression is that jrkirby, nobodywonder, Targe and jampidampi are town.
Also LAL means Lynch All Liars afaik. And lurkers aren't people who don't post at all but people who post little with little to no original content .. like Spicy.
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@Sugarfluff what do you think about calgar and nobodywonder's interaction with each other?
Are you seriously implying that you know how an SK would play, and that Vayne is doing it? What's your experience with forum mafia?
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[b]EBWOP: [b/] nvm your first post says you have no experience. So how did you come up with this Vayne playing like SK theory?
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AllHailHydraGod, mind explaining your town read on Targe?
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Good post AllHailHydra, i think SpicyDinasour have some answearing to be done.
I have some question`s for you @jrkirby
On May 04 2013 13:10 jrkirby wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2013 12:38 nobodywonder wrote:
@jrkirby good pickup, yes, but not really..its the nobody principle, i am a powerful wizard who will always roll vanilla.
well i'll show you again that i am town with fearless lynching and analysis, i am not afraid. delicious cereal shall be safeguarded today! rejoice.
@jrkirby what do you think about the lynch all lurkers policy? What I'd prefer is not to have lurkers. But I think we should lynch whoever we think is scum, and lurking contributes towards scumread in my book.
You are claiming town and saying we should lynch whoever we think are scum. And you will prove your townrole with fearless lynching and analysis. So my question is : Where are the fearing lynches and analysis ??
You figured out Nobodywonder, Shirokami and me to be the scumteam. Maybe one of them are, i haven done enough reading on them yet, i will come back to that. But we sure arent a scumteam. You proceed with voting Nobodywonder , then you change your vote to Targe , and in the very last chaning your vote to No lynch .
You had 3 suspects, changed your vote to non of thoose 3 and ending up with no lynch. What happend to we fearing lynches and : Lynch whoever we think are scum ??
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