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Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
July 17 2010 17:56 GMT
#281
On July 18 2010 01:29 rastaban wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2010 01:10 Tricode wrote:
You guys ramble to much. Usually a vet in the game would come up with a plan by now. but right now seems to be like we can't do much anyways.

Though the usual kill the least inactive idiot always seems to be a good idea, one of them is usually mafia anyways.

As for a final note, I am always up for killing the Cobbler. It is my soul purpose of entering these games.


He was a goon last game so I support this accusation! Once I am finished with the GF citi.zen BC is next.

( BM, I have a vote on citi.zen but I haven't been listed in any of the vote counts recently, just wanted to point that out. I will be casting a real vote later but just in case don't want to be modkilled. )


As for plans, the last game I was in was a custom cult setup so it was easier to try and think of ways to try and break the game. This game is closer to a standard setup so it seems like there is no perfect plan.

That being said the simple plans that I could see would be to setup a pattern for DTs to investigate so there is no overlap. Something like start from your location and go down the list, if you find the other DT then start going up for your position so we get the most coverage. The down to this is that most likely the DTs would do better using their own scum judgment to hunt despite the possibility to overlap.

There are other useful plans, but as I stated earlier a lot of plans hinge on the town having some open roles, and until the bomber is dead we really have no way of protecting claimants. We need to get him first and then a lot of different plans will be open to us.

PMs are in this game, but I am unfamiliar with how they should be used. should I be messaging most people and trying feel them out, wait until I have a good feeling about their role and then contact them, or just wait for something like a DT to contact me. How should we be working the PMs?

I like your "down the list" idea
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
July 17 2010 18:22 GMT
#282
Ignoring vigi/hatter kills and vet/medic protections and double lynch,

Worst case scenario for town is 6 days at 3 town members/day at which point 18 townies are dead and numbers are equal. However given mafia vote swinging and town inactivity/stupidity, 5 missed lynches is probably our cutoff point for certain death.

I haven't taken the time to do precise math, but it seems to me that blue roles in our setup slightly favor town, however if i'm reading the rules right the mafia have 2kp until they get down to 3 members, which is nice for them.

DT's can day 1 check if they want, though i dunno if this is a really great idea since it would mostly be a blind rolecheck. But i also don't want to say 'don't do it all.' DT's should not go down the list for their rolechecks though. This is a dumb idea and we simply don't have the luxury of time. I think DT should use his analysis and intuition to check suspicious players, like normal.

LoL NA: MothLite == Steam: p0nd
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
July 17 2010 18:33 GMT
#283
*checking in....spent night in ER....Got job interview, yadda yadda yadda....wasn't expecting all this, so for the first few days my activity *MIGHT* be lower. I gotta read up now, so gimme a lil...*
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
July 17 2010 18:47 GMT
#284
##Vote: Chaoser
He's mafia.

Also, other mafia, = Darth, and Infundiblum.

Trust me.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
zeks
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Canada1068 Posts
July 17 2010 19:26 GMT
#285
lynch inactive first day

in all the recent games i've played theres always mafia who play lurker

dt rolecheck night 1 okay for me - check active ppl as usual
"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I-- I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference."
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
July 17 2010 19:30 GMT
#286
So how do we know whos mafia?
lakrismamma
Profile Joined August 2006
Sweden543 Posts
July 17 2010 19:31 GMT
#287
On July 18 2010 03:47 ~OpZ~ wrote:
##Vote: Chaoser
He's mafia.

Also, other mafia, = Darth, and Infundiblum.

Trust me.


This is a very strage post? Explain yourself. If you are town then why would you spread confusion like this?
Also so everyone notice this since I didnt until now.

On July 02 2010 07:57 Bill Murray wrote:
24/24 town-aligned players alive
2/2 Veterans alive
2/2 Town KP roles alive
2/2 Medics alive
2/2 DTs alive

6/6 Mafia-players alive
1/1 Godfather
1/1 Suicide Bomber
Mafia KP: 2 (until they have under 1.5 when divided by 2)

Double lynches: 2


I hear thunder but theres no rain. This type of thunder breaks walls and window panes.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
July 17 2010 19:32 GMT
#288
On July 18 2010 04:30 Pandain wrote:
So how do we know whos mafia?


well personally i just use my mafia detecting hacks,

you should probably read through a previous game or something if you have no idea what is going on
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
lakrismamma
Profile Joined August 2006
Sweden543 Posts
July 17 2010 19:38 GMT
#289
On July 18 2010 04:26 zeks wrote:
lynch inactive first day

in all the recent games i've played theres always mafia who play lurker

dt rolecheck night 1 okay for me - check active ppl as usual


Agree with this. Also I don't think we have to bother to make sure the DTs don't overlap at least not now in the beginning. -There are only 2 DTs so the chance are little they will check the same person.
I hear thunder but theres no rain. This type of thunder breaks walls and window panes.
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
July 17 2010 20:09 GMT
#290
The game of Mafia has begun, and its time we get it going properly.

Some decent idea's have been laid out and we can consider them viable.

We have a few basics to remember in a setup like this. Trust no one. For all of the newer players. Stay out of PM land. If by god you go there, please only do so after the person your talking to has been confirmed. The chances for a minor slip up is enough to get you sniped if your blue, or give out information that you may have if you have it.

Secondly, we should set up potential lists of people to watch out for until they can be confirmed. I would start with

BloodyC0bbler
Foolishness
DTA
YoungMirii
Citizen

I believe us 5 should be under the most scrutiny at the beginning of this game.
Next we need medics to protect intelligently. Protect people you think will get hit. Analyze what people are saying then think if its something that would warrant mafia hitting them. IF so, put them on a list. Do this a few times and you have yourself a medic list to protect off of.

Next, day 1 lynch we have a few options
a) vote for the most inactive player
b) Vote for someone to RNG a player then vote on them
c) Vote for someone whos scummy (bad idea)

Now, with that all said and done, Lets get this party started.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
July 17 2010 20:22 GMT
#291
On July 18 2010 05:09 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
The game of Mafia has begun, and its time we get it going properly.

Some decent idea's have been laid out and we can consider them viable.

We have a few basics to remember in a setup like this. Trust no one. For all of the newer players. Stay out of PM land. If by god you go there, please only do so after the person your talking to has been confirmed. The chances for a minor slip up is enough to get you sniped if your blue, or give out information that you may have if you have it.

Secondly, we should set up potential lists of people to watch out for until they can be confirmed. I would start with

BloodyC0bbler
Foolishness
DTA
YoungMirii
Citizen

I believe us 5 should be under the most scrutiny at the beginning of this game.
Next we need medics to protect intelligently. Protect people you think will get hit. Analyze what people are saying then think if its something that would warrant mafia hitting them. IF so, put them on a list. Do this a few times and you have yourself a medic list to protect off of.

Next, day 1 lynch we have a few options
a) vote for the most inactive player
b) Vote for someone to RNG a player then vote on them
c) Vote for someone whos scummy (bad idea)

Now, with that all said and done, Lets get this party started.


I got this feeeeling. Somebody's watching me!
www.cstarleague.com | Love is like playing the piano. First you must learn to play by the rules, then you must forget the rules and play from your heart.
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
July 17 2010 20:23 GMT
#292
On July 18 2010 05:22 DarthThienAn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2010 05:09 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
The game of Mafia has begun, and its time we get it going properly.

Some decent idea's have been laid out and we can consider them viable.

We have a few basics to remember in a setup like this. Trust no one. For all of the newer players. Stay out of PM land. If by god you go there, please only do so after the person your talking to has been confirmed. The chances for a minor slip up is enough to get you sniped if your blue, or give out information that you may have if you have it.

Secondly, we should set up potential lists of people to watch out for until they can be confirmed. I would start with

BloodyC0bbler
Foolishness
DTA
YoungMirii
Citizen

I believe us 5 should be under the most scrutiny at the beginning of this game.
Next we need medics to protect intelligently. Protect people you think will get hit. Analyze what people are saying then think if its something that would warrant mafia hitting them. IF so, put them on a list. Do this a few times and you have yourself a medic list to protect off of.

Next, day 1 lynch we have a few options
a) vote for the most inactive player
b) Vote for someone to RNG a player then vote on them
c) Vote for someone whos scummy (bad idea)

Now, with that all said and done, Lets get this party started.


I got this feeeeling. Somebody's watching me!


Pretty safe bet, you are kinda sketchy looking with your darthvader like lightning
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
July 17 2010 20:25 GMT
#293
##Vote Abstain

Placeholder vote till we have our inactive person yarrr
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
July 17 2010 20:25 GMT
#294
On July 18 2010 05:23 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2010 05:22 DarthThienAn wrote:
On July 18 2010 05:09 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
The game of Mafia has begun, and its time we get it going properly.

Some decent idea's have been laid out and we can consider them viable.

We have a few basics to remember in a setup like this. Trust no one. For all of the newer players. Stay out of PM land. If by god you go there, please only do so after the person your talking to has been confirmed. The chances for a minor slip up is enough to get you sniped if your blue, or give out information that you may have if you have it.

Secondly, we should set up potential lists of people to watch out for until they can be confirmed. I would start with

BloodyC0bbler
Foolishness
DTA
YoungMirii
Citizen

I believe us 5 should be under the most scrutiny at the beginning of this game.
Next we need medics to protect intelligently. Protect people you think will get hit. Analyze what people are saying then think if its something that would warrant mafia hitting them. IF so, put them on a list. Do this a few times and you have yourself a medic list to protect off of.

Next, day 1 lynch we have a few options
a) vote for the most inactive player
b) Vote for someone to RNG a player then vote on them
c) Vote for someone whos scummy (bad idea)

Now, with that all said and done, Lets get this party started.


I got this feeeeling. Somebody's watching me!


Pretty safe bet, you are kinda sketchy looking with your darthvader like lightning


It's okay. I don't mind being looked at. I love attention
www.cstarleague.com | Love is like playing the piano. First you must learn to play by the rules, then you must forget the rules and play from your heart.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-17 20:29:34
July 17 2010 20:28 GMT
#295

INCOGNITO IS NOT IN THIS GAME. YOU MUST VOTE OR ABSTAIN, OR BE MODKILLED. DAY ENDS IN 28 1/2 hours
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
July 17 2010 20:29 GMT
#296
I personally think divinek is mafia. Because he sucks. Oh my god he sucks.

##Vote Divinek
Together but separate, like oatmeal
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
July 17 2010 20:29 GMT
#297
I think voting inactives at the start to be among the better options. While it seems reasonable that people who get mafia go omg cool role, and want to post, some of them may want to lurk cause they think that's a good way to avoid attention or something.

So the only way to get substance out of these people is to call them out and pressure vote them.
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
July 17 2010 20:30 GMT
#298
bum so sad i got him band wagon killed in the last game
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-17 20:36:21
July 17 2010 20:30 GMT
#299
Vote count:
1] Amber[LighT] (jayme),
1] d3_crescentia (darthThienAn),
1] DarthThienAn (d3_crescentia)
1] Pyrruloxia (youngminii)
1] citi.zen (rastaban)
1] chaoser (~opz~)
1] Divinek (bumatlarge)
1] abstain (BloodyC0bbler)

not voting and in risk of modkill: everyone else



I have been asked a question regarding Veteran lives in relation to night action. If the veteran takes a bomb from a hatter somehow, he will lose one life. If he gets suicide bombed, he will die.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
July 17 2010 20:39 GMT
#300
I'm not entirely sure on the inactive thing, if there is someone who doesn't post whatsoever they are dead anyway, and it encourages people to spam simply to not be case as inactive. Depends how things work out, if there is someone who at the end of day 1 has only posted one thing that is about as useful as typing "lol mafia!" then I'd agree but it depends on circumstance.

This only really applies for the first day, after that lynching for inactivity if there is not a more obvious choice seems like a universally very good idea, but I'm surprised more people arn't considering the idea of using a RNG to decide our first kill.

And OpZ just lol @ immediately claiming 3 people seemingly randomly as mafia.
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