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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 04 2013 15:59 GMT
#2921
On October 05 2013 00:58 Koshi wrote:
Oh and rayn is 100%. I am keeping 1 townie a secret. Dnu why.

Fucking wasting every blue role I get D:

No this is good because you can bus yourself.
You guys should have both bussed on N1. :D
table for two on a tv tray
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 04 2013 16:01 GMT
#2922
Alright guys I'm literally getting on my desktop for this.

No, SnB is not related to FT. Not every defense a scum makes means that person is scum and you know that.

SnB's opinion was literally shared by the 8 other people who voted SP. No one thought FT was town then. If you're saying that SnB's opinion means FT is scum then we have to look at the 8 other people who voted for SP and now you realize that's a retarded idea.

It was a common opinion and while it may be that they're both scum it is in no way conclusive and doesn't mean anything because of the weak nature of the defense. In fact the weak nature of the defense indicates that FT is probably scum because he would have gone more hardcore if a scum mate was about to die night one.

Also what I'm getting from Koshi is that
a) He's 100% town
b) I was right and Vayne is on the scum team that used driveby and so Vayne used that inside knowledge to make generalizations.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 04 2013 16:01 GMT
#2923
I also think I trust this claim, don't think scum has great reason to claim except to hope and draw a counterclaim, which doesn't seem like something that needs doing right at this moment, so late in a day.
Fe fi fo fum.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 04 2013 16:02 GMT
#2924
On October 05 2013 00:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2013 00:58 Koshi wrote:
Oh and rayn is 100%. I am keeping 1 townie a secret. Dnu why.

Fucking wasting every blue role I get D:

No this is good because you can bus yourself.
You guys should have both bussed on N1. :D

We have only 1. But we thought I would get hit and not Hiro. And then I would tell thread I was cop on D3, ambulance on N3 if the NK were used on N2, and buss on N4... But yeah. Now everything is ruined D;
I had a good night of sleep.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 04 2013 16:02 GMT
#2925
On October 05 2013 00:58 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2013 00:55 Pandain wrote:
On October 05 2013 00:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 05 2013 00:54 Pandain wrote:
Because a palmar lynch is bad

Why? Why the fuck everyone says so?
Scum lynch is good.

There's literally like no reason Palmar is scum except for that vote switch which only means anything if FT is scum.

That is, for some of us, entirely irrelevant to Palmar's alignment. There are other reasons. They are posted in the thread.


They are all bad. Even my own reasons are weak and can be attributed to him being bad which sorry Palmar I honestly think you are playing bad right now.


He was always a troll and is a troll.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 04 2013 16:04 GMT
#2926
Koshi you told me to look at Persona 2 but look at this:
On August 22 2013 00:22 VayneAuthority wrote:
well if WoS does flip red at some point I think we can safely assume kush is town. If he was scum he would jump all over the chance to bus a partner this early.

This game is kinda turning into titanic v2 and I am quite bored but don't feel like trolling this time, meh.

On August 22 2013 00:27 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 00:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 22 2013 00:22 VayneAuthority wrote:
well if WoS does flip red at some point I think we can safely assume kush is town. If he was scum he would jump all over the chance to bus a partner this early.

This game is kinda turning into titanic v2 and I am quite bored but don't feel like trolling this time, meh.

I feel the same way about how this game is going. The problem is i am the only one making a case, everyone else just agrees or disagrees with me, or do not even read. Why is noone putting up another suspect? I do not feel like making more than one case at the time.


If you are town, it is because WoS is working alone I assume or it's a lazy scumteam. DP was town so the only other leader I could see here would be like yamato? Perfectly fine with accepting a leaderless scumteam at this point given the players.

so

1. WoS is 3rd party so scum doesn't give a shit (my PO)

2. WoS is town so nobody gives a shit, also why you didn't get NK'ed

3. WoS is scum with lazy partners and has to work it out by himself.

by this deduction I would rule out yamato as scum also if WoS flipped red.

On August 22 2013 00:40 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 00:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 22 2013 00:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
I think rainbows is the best lynch but I can't really right a case for it or anything -_- just a gut feeling

Do you think snoman is town?


null right now, I've been over his filter and he looks more like a player that you can feel out since he's all over the place with accusations and comments. I need to see a lot more than what he's written so far.

he said onegu was sheeping town sentiment which is kinda just a lazy buzz phrase but I could see either alignment doing that since I don't know how he plays yet.

Finding a SAM claim to be a scum claim is pretty odd given the circumstances. It's a potential death sentence for no reason if you get CC'ed.

he has a little back and forth with rainbows and I doubt they could foresee us thinking of them as partners that early in the game, so I don't think they are both scum.

That's about it for me.

On August 23 2013 02:25 VayneAuthority wrote:
well im glad to lynch sno man now. He's going out of his way to try and lynch people that nobody else is suspicious of, of course you want us lynched. We are in the confirmed town stratosphere LOL.

##vote: sn0_man

trying way too hard to push scum agenda.

On August 23 2013 02:46 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 02:43 Sn0_Man wrote:
On August 23 2013 02:35 VayneAuthority wrote:
On August 23 2013 02:33 Sn0_Man wrote:
My favourite part was how Vayne's tactic this game is to instantly attack and vote for anybody who so much as mentions him in a negative manner.


Yea we already know, you posted that in your last post. less repetitive ad hom attacks would be great.

Why as town would you do that then when you know how I'm going to react? how is that pro-town at all?

How is it remotely acceptable or town motivated to say "I'm untouchable anybody who attacks me is scum"? Thats easily a scum-favoured atmosphere to create. There was no ad-hominem, I'm commenting on the terribleness of your play.
Scum-hunting, in fact. Something you MAY wish to attempt (you haven't started yet I notice). K maybe now there is ad-hom.


There was always ad hom. You didn't even answer any of my questions.

yawn, vote stays. Stop trying to cast suspicion on every little thing and focus on things that can actually happen, otherwise you just look like scum to me trying to cause chaos.

Apparently you don't understand the difference between me being under heat and it being acceptable to question me and simply trying to throw shit at me for the sake of it when its completely pointless. The first is town motivated, the second is not!



I've barely even gone through it and these are good posts. They are strong and logical and he states his opinions.

Sorry, this isn't town Vayne meta, he's playing like shit
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 04 2013 16:05 GMT
#2927
Yeah but town!Palmar is a good troll. This one is not a good troll.
table for two on a tv tray
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 04 2013 16:05 GMT
#2928
Palmar is a shit lynch to do today and FT is even worse

S0lstice or Vayne today
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 04 2013 16:05 GMT
#2929
On October 05 2013 01:02 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2013 00:58 austinmcc wrote:
On October 05 2013 00:55 Pandain wrote:
On October 05 2013 00:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 05 2013 00:54 Pandain wrote:
Because a palmar lynch is bad

Why? Why the fuck everyone says so?
Scum lynch is good.

There's literally like no reason Palmar is scum except for that vote switch which only means anything if FT is scum.

That is, for some of us, entirely irrelevant to Palmar's alignment. There are other reasons. They are posted in the thread.


They are all bad. Even my own reasons are weak and can be attributed to him being bad which sorry Palmar I honestly think you are playing bad right now.


He was always a troll and is a troll.
"Bad" and "Troll" are giant continents of mafia play. Palmar's activity, being focused on things that don't matter and NOT on scumhunting, puts him in like...the Mafia Siberia or Mafia Indian Subcontinent of Bad/Troll Asia.

Whereas other people can troll but be in Town Southeast Asia of Troll Asia.

I like picturing that on a map but I don't think it makes much sense written out and there are less stupid ways to say that but screw it.
Fe fi fo fum.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 04 2013 16:06 GMT
#2930
On October 05 2013 01:04 Pandain wrote:
Koshi you told me to look at Persona 2 but look at this:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 00:22 VayneAuthority wrote:
well if WoS does flip red at some point I think we can safely assume kush is town. If he was scum he would jump all over the chance to bus a partner this early.

This game is kinda turning into titanic v2 and I am quite bored but don't feel like trolling this time, meh.

Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 00:27 VayneAuthority wrote:
On August 22 2013 00:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 22 2013 00:22 VayneAuthority wrote:
well if WoS does flip red at some point I think we can safely assume kush is town. If he was scum he would jump all over the chance to bus a partner this early.

This game is kinda turning into titanic v2 and I am quite bored but don't feel like trolling this time, meh.

I feel the same way about how this game is going. The problem is i am the only one making a case, everyone else just agrees or disagrees with me, or do not even read. Why is noone putting up another suspect? I do not feel like making more than one case at the time.


If you are town, it is because WoS is working alone I assume or it's a lazy scumteam. DP was town so the only other leader I could see here would be like yamato? Perfectly fine with accepting a leaderless scumteam at this point given the players.

so

1. WoS is 3rd party so scum doesn't give a shit (my PO)

2. WoS is town so nobody gives a shit, also why you didn't get NK'ed

3. WoS is scum with lazy partners and has to work it out by himself.

by this deduction I would rule out yamato as scum also if WoS flipped red.

Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 00:40 VayneAuthority wrote:
On August 22 2013 00:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 22 2013 00:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
I think rainbows is the best lynch but I can't really right a case for it or anything -_- just a gut feeling

Do you think snoman is town?


null right now, I've been over his filter and he looks more like a player that you can feel out since he's all over the place with accusations and comments. I need to see a lot more than what he's written so far.

he said onegu was sheeping town sentiment which is kinda just a lazy buzz phrase but I could see either alignment doing that since I don't know how he plays yet.

Finding a SAM claim to be a scum claim is pretty odd given the circumstances. It's a potential death sentence for no reason if you get CC'ed.

he has a little back and forth with rainbows and I doubt they could foresee us thinking of them as partners that early in the game, so I don't think they are both scum.

That's about it for me.

Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 02:25 VayneAuthority wrote:
well im glad to lynch sno man now. He's going out of his way to try and lynch people that nobody else is suspicious of, of course you want us lynched. We are in the confirmed town stratosphere LOL.

##vote: sn0_man

trying way too hard to push scum agenda.

Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 02:46 VayneAuthority wrote:
On August 23 2013 02:43 Sn0_Man wrote:
On August 23 2013 02:35 VayneAuthority wrote:
On August 23 2013 02:33 Sn0_Man wrote:
My favourite part was how Vayne's tactic this game is to instantly attack and vote for anybody who so much as mentions him in a negative manner.


Yea we already know, you posted that in your last post. less repetitive ad hom attacks would be great.

Why as town would you do that then when you know how I'm going to react? how is that pro-town at all?

How is it remotely acceptable or town motivated to say "I'm untouchable anybody who attacks me is scum"? Thats easily a scum-favoured atmosphere to create. There was no ad-hominem, I'm commenting on the terribleness of your play.
Scum-hunting, in fact. Something you MAY wish to attempt (you haven't started yet I notice). K maybe now there is ad-hom.


There was always ad hom. You didn't even answer any of my questions.

yawn, vote stays. Stop trying to cast suspicion on every little thing and focus on things that can actually happen, otherwise you just look like scum to me trying to cause chaos.

Apparently you don't understand the difference between me being under heat and it being acceptable to question me and simply trying to throw shit at me for the sake of it when its completely pointless. The first is town motivated, the second is not!



I've barely even gone through it and these are good posts. They are strong and logical and he states his opinions.

Sorry, this isn't town Vayne meta, he's playing like shit

While I agree somewhat, you can't meta Vayne based on that.
Go look at some of his other town games.
Go look at I Swear It's Normal or whatever that was called.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 04 2013 16:06 GMT
#2931
^ yeah that was indeed before page 4 of his filter. After that it was way less and more information was out.
I had a good night of sleep.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 04 2013 16:06 GMT
#2932
On October 05 2013 01:05 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2013 01:02 Pandain wrote:
On October 05 2013 00:58 austinmcc wrote:
On October 05 2013 00:55 Pandain wrote:
On October 05 2013 00:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 05 2013 00:54 Pandain wrote:
Because a palmar lynch is bad

Why? Why the fuck everyone says so?
Scum lynch is good.

There's literally like no reason Palmar is scum except for that vote switch which only means anything if FT is scum.

That is, for some of us, entirely irrelevant to Palmar's alignment. There are other reasons. They are posted in the thread.


They are all bad. Even my own reasons are weak and can be attributed to him being bad which sorry Palmar I honestly think you are playing bad right now.


He was always a troll and is a troll.
"Bad" and "Troll" are giant continents of mafia play. Palmar's activity, being focused on things that don't matter and NOT on scumhunting, puts him in like...the Mafia Siberia or Mafia Indian Subcontinent of Bad/Troll Asia.

Whereas other people can troll but be in Town Southeast Asia of Troll Asia.

I mean the reasons why he is scum are bad.

I think the main thing is a disconnect between him posting and appearing active and yet not having an active role is the main point of concern, but that isn't enough to lynch him today.

do you agree with me yet that FT is town?
I like picturing that on a map but I don't think it makes much sense written out and there are less stupid ways to say that but screw it.

Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
October 04 2013 16:07 GMT
#2933
On October 05 2013 00:46 Pandain wrote:
Lets not talk about cop claims except to say no one has really claimed cop.


Palmar I picked up on Koshi too but why mention it? He obviously didn't get shot by scum last night so why bring it to their attention?


He's making no effort at hiding it. I think it's dumb to assume scum just ignores the thread.
Computer says mafia
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 04 2013 16:07 GMT
#2934
EBWOP
On October 05 2013 01:05 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2013 01:02 Pandain wrote:
On October 05 2013 00:58 austinmcc wrote:
On October 05 2013 00:55 Pandain wrote:
On October 05 2013 00:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 05 2013 00:54 Pandain wrote:
Because a palmar lynch is bad

Why? Why the fuck everyone says so?
Scum lynch is good.

There's literally like no reason Palmar is scum except for that vote switch which only means anything if FT is scum.

That is, for some of us, entirely irrelevant to Palmar's alignment. There are other reasons. They are posted in the thread.


They are all bad. Even my own reasons are weak and can be attributed to him being bad which sorry Palmar I honestly think you are playing bad right now.


He was always a troll and is a troll.
"Bad" and "Troll" are giant continents of mafia play. Palmar's activity, being focused on things that don't matter and NOT on scumhunting, puts him in like...the Mafia Siberia or Mafia Indian Subcontinent of Bad/Troll Asia.

Whereas other people can troll but be in Town Southeast Asia of Troll Asia.



I mean the reasons why he is scum are bad.

I think the main thing is a disconnect between him posting and appearing active and yet not having an active role is the main point of concern, but that isn't enough to lynch him today.

do you agree with me yet that FT is town?
I like picturing that on a map but I don't think it makes much sense written out and there are less stupid ways to say that but screw it.

And Koshi this is day three now and Vayne is on page 8 of his filter
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 04 2013 16:07 GMT
#2935
On October 05 2013 01:07 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2013 00:46 Pandain wrote:
Lets not talk about cop claims except to say no one has really claimed cop.


Palmar I picked up on Koshi too but why mention it? He obviously didn't get shot by scum last night so why bring it to their attention?


He's making no effort at hiding it. I think it's dumb to assume scum just ignores the thread.

But he didn't get shot so why say it. That's an assumption you can make if they don't shoot him.

raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 04 2013 16:08 GMT
#2936
Pandain is also scum, most likely. He's been going so hard against the thread sentiment it's unbelieveable. Like nothing anyone else says makes sense to him... How's that possible?
table for two on a tv tray
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 04 2013 16:08 GMT
#2937
Vayne is playing scum, Me and Ray are clear town.

Join the vayne lynch or at least S0lstice.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 04 2013 16:09 GMT
#2938
Well, I don't want us to forget about FT tbh.
He is still a good lynch and will never be useful ever.

And cops can't shoot people anymore D:
I had a good night of sleep.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 04 2013 16:10 GMT
#2939
On October 05 2013 01:07 Pandain wrote:
EBWOP
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2013 01:05 austinmcc wrote:
On October 05 2013 01:02 Pandain wrote:
On October 05 2013 00:58 austinmcc wrote:
On October 05 2013 00:55 Pandain wrote:
On October 05 2013 00:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 05 2013 00:54 Pandain wrote:
Because a palmar lynch is bad

Why? Why the fuck everyone says so?
Scum lynch is good.

There's literally like no reason Palmar is scum except for that vote switch which only means anything if FT is scum.

That is, for some of us, entirely irrelevant to Palmar's alignment. There are other reasons. They are posted in the thread.


They are all bad. Even my own reasons are weak and can be attributed to him being bad which sorry Palmar I honestly think you are playing bad right now.


He was always a troll and is a troll.
"Bad" and "Troll" are giant continents of mafia play. Palmar's activity, being focused on things that don't matter and NOT on scumhunting, puts him in like...the Mafia Siberia or Mafia Indian Subcontinent of Bad/Troll Asia.

Whereas other people can troll but be in Town Southeast Asia of Troll Asia.



I mean the reasons why he is scum are bad.

I think the main thing is a disconnect between him posting and appearing active and yet not having an active role is the main point of concern, but that isn't enough to lynch him today.

do you agree with me yet that FT is town?
I like picturing that on a map but I don't think it makes much sense written out and there are less stupid ways to say that but screw it.

And Koshi this is day three now and Vayne is on page 8 of his filter
You should go back and read D2 and early N2. I defended FT on some of the things you pulled out today. I currently think he's town, but not as strongly as before.
Fe fi fo fum.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 04 2013 16:10 GMT
#2940
Stop Koshi Vayne is on Page 8 you went up to page 4. Vayne is still playing like shit and will be less useless.

This is not a scum motivated lynch which already makes it infinitely better then the other two suspicious lynches.
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