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KW
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia14 Posts
March 07 2012 03:20 GMT
#2601
Here's the actual VOD for Day 1:
http://www.twitch.tv/esltv_event2/b/310822754
integrity
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1014 Posts
March 07 2012 03:58 GMT
#2602
thank you thank you thank you thank you so fucking much for putting up a restream. i have been stuck a work all day and i am happy i can watch a restream before bed! i love you
bokeevboke
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Singapore1674 Posts
March 07 2012 04:24 GMT
#2603
Didn't enjoy any of games so far. Same shit every game. SC2 is so dull now
Its grack
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
March 07 2012 04:29 GMT
#2604
On March 07 2012 10:23 Venomsflame wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 10:22 Dakkas wrote:
On March 07 2012 10:16 Ausfailia wrote:
On March 07 2012 05:10 MrBitter wrote:
On March 07 2012 03:23 zefreak wrote:
On March 07 2012 03:19 Daray wrote:
On March 07 2012 03:15 MeFAT wrote:
On March 07 2012 03:11 Daray wrote:
On March 07 2012 03:07 MeFAT wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:35 cyclone4tw wrote:
[quote]

If you were talking about PvP then don't include their results vs Nerchio in this discussion.

I said that Elfi was the better player between him and MC today, in this matchup. It wasn't luck that won him those games, it was his superior micro during ~110/110 supply fights.


Out of 3 players:
MC won 3, lost 2
HasuObs won 2, lost 2
Elfi won 2, lost 3

nuff said.


This makes no sense to me.


Well, the caster said Elfi is the best PvP player in the world and most on here think he's better than MC in PvP. But, out of the 3 players that played PvP against each other, Elfi has the worst win/loss ratio.


Its their job to hype up things that probably shouldn't be hyped up.

A few bo3 doesn't really prove anything in the world of PvP.


Is that really their job? I like what the casters on the IMBTV stream said, that they have no qualms calling a game over when it is over, and don't feel the need to pander to viewers who are probably smarter than that anyways.

I'm not saying bitterdam did that specifically, but it's something that happens far too often from all the casters, although tasteosis seem much more comfortable in saying that a game is over or a play is bad.

Is there really not enough content in a sc2 match that you have to make up excitement that isn't there? I think the game is exciting enough that simple analysis would hold viewers. That of course requires casters to actually be good at analysis, the number of which are capable I can count on one hand.


Oh please, Elfi obviously has the best PvP in the world. He's able to openly do shit that makes zero sense and win with it. How is this anything less than awe inspiring?


...are you unaware of the Korean scene or do you just choose to ignore it? Your constant foreigner bias is infuriating.


He's specifically stated that he pays little attention to the Korean scene



Does everyone think he is serious? I'm pretty sure that was not a serious statement, he was just mocking the uproar in this thread.


He's said it long before this tournament, and it's been obvious for a while. It's not just him either, remember when nobody knew who Leenock was at MLG even though he was already in the semifinals of GSL Code S? Foreigner bias is a joke.
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Heavenly
Profile Joined January 2011
2172 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 06:34:36
March 07 2012 05:57 GMT
#2605
On March 07 2012 10:23 Venomsflame wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 10:22 Dakkas wrote:
On March 07 2012 10:16 Ausfailia wrote:
On March 07 2012 05:10 MrBitter wrote:
On March 07 2012 03:23 zefreak wrote:
On March 07 2012 03:19 Daray wrote:
On March 07 2012 03:15 MeFAT wrote:
On March 07 2012 03:11 Daray wrote:
On March 07 2012 03:07 MeFAT wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:35 cyclone4tw wrote:
[quote]

If you were talking about PvP then don't include their results vs Nerchio in this discussion.

I said that Elfi was the better player between him and MC today, in this matchup. It wasn't luck that won him those games, it was his superior micro during ~110/110 supply fights.


Out of 3 players:
MC won 3, lost 2
HasuObs won 2, lost 2
Elfi won 2, lost 3

nuff said.


This makes no sense to me.


Well, the caster said Elfi is the best PvP player in the world and most on here think he's better than MC in PvP. But, out of the 3 players that played PvP against each other, Elfi has the worst win/loss ratio.


Its their job to hype up things that probably shouldn't be hyped up.

A few bo3 doesn't really prove anything in the world of PvP.


Is that really their job? I like what the casters on the IMBTV stream said, that they have no qualms calling a game over when it is over, and don't feel the need to pander to viewers who are probably smarter than that anyways.

I'm not saying bitterdam did that specifically, but it's something that happens far too often from all the casters, although tasteosis seem much more comfortable in saying that a game is over or a play is bad.

Is there really not enough content in a sc2 match that you have to make up excitement that isn't there? I think the game is exciting enough that simple analysis would hold viewers. That of course requires casters to actually be good at analysis, the number of which are capable I can count on one hand.


Oh please, Elfi obviously has the best PvP in the world. He's able to openly do shit that makes zero sense and win with it. How is this anything less than awe inspiring?


...are you unaware of the Korean scene or do you just choose to ignore it? Your constant foreigner bias is infuriating.


He's specifically stated that he pays little attention to the Korean scene



Does everyone think he is serious? I'm pretty sure that was not a serious statement, he was just mocking the uproar in this thread.


Why would it not be a serious statement...Bitter is pretty foreigner biased and as far as I have heard does not pay much attention to Korea at all. Elfi played well in general and was able to capitalize on MC's mistakes throughout the series but calling him best PvP in the world is a big overexaggeration. MC crushed him game 2, it wasn't even close, whereas the two games elfi won were close. Game one was potentially won simply because of a bad blink for MC to position, game three MC threw away 5 stalkers and overproduced probes slightly versus an all-in. He's good PvP but there's no reason to think he'd be favored at all in a longer series.
"thx for all my fans i'm many lost but cheer for me .. i lost but so happy my power is fans i will good play this is promise my fans" - oGsMC
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5356 Posts
March 07 2012 06:03 GMT
#2606
On March 07 2012 13:24 bokeevboke wrote:
Didn't enjoy any of games so far. Same shit every game. SC2 is so dull now

...now why would you come in here and post this on a SC2 thread?
Nobody's forcing you to watch or play lol...
¯\_(シ)_/¯
MrBitter
Profile Joined January 2008
United States2940 Posts
March 07 2012 07:00 GMT
#2607
On March 07 2012 10:23 Venomsflame wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 10:22 Dakkas wrote:
On March 07 2012 10:16 Ausfailia wrote:
On March 07 2012 05:10 MrBitter wrote:
On March 07 2012 03:23 zefreak wrote:
On March 07 2012 03:19 Daray wrote:
On March 07 2012 03:15 MeFAT wrote:
On March 07 2012 03:11 Daray wrote:
On March 07 2012 03:07 MeFAT wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:35 cyclone4tw wrote:
[quote]

If you were talking about PvP then don't include their results vs Nerchio in this discussion.

I said that Elfi was the better player between him and MC today, in this matchup. It wasn't luck that won him those games, it was his superior micro during ~110/110 supply fights.


Out of 3 players:
MC won 3, lost 2
HasuObs won 2, lost 2
Elfi won 2, lost 3

nuff said.


This makes no sense to me.


Well, the caster said Elfi is the best PvP player in the world and most on here think he's better than MC in PvP. But, out of the 3 players that played PvP against each other, Elfi has the worst win/loss ratio.


Its their job to hype up things that probably shouldn't be hyped up.

A few bo3 doesn't really prove anything in the world of PvP.


Is that really their job? I like what the casters on the IMBTV stream said, that they have no qualms calling a game over when it is over, and don't feel the need to pander to viewers who are probably smarter than that anyways.

I'm not saying bitterdam did that specifically, but it's something that happens far too often from all the casters, although tasteosis seem much more comfortable in saying that a game is over or a play is bad.

Is there really not enough content in a sc2 match that you have to make up excitement that isn't there? I think the game is exciting enough that simple analysis would hold viewers. That of course requires casters to actually be good at analysis, the number of which are capable I can count on one hand.


Oh please, Elfi obviously has the best PvP in the world. He's able to openly do shit that makes zero sense and win with it. How is this anything less than awe inspiring?


...are you unaware of the Korean scene or do you just choose to ignore it? Your constant foreigner bias is infuriating.


He's specifically stated that he pays little attention to the Korean scene



Does everyone think he is serious? I'm pretty sure that was not a serious statement, he was just mocking the uproar in this thread.


Thank you for being the only guy to pick up on what I thought was a pretty obvious troll.

Elfi played great. No one that knows Starcraft really believes he's the best in the world at anything.

(But I still love you, Elfi)
Heavenly
Profile Joined January 2011
2172 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 07:47:58
March 07 2012 07:46 GMT
#2608
On March 07 2012 16:00 MrBitter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 10:23 Venomsflame wrote:
On March 07 2012 10:22 Dakkas wrote:
On March 07 2012 10:16 Ausfailia wrote:
On March 07 2012 05:10 MrBitter wrote:
On March 07 2012 03:23 zefreak wrote:
On March 07 2012 03:19 Daray wrote:
On March 07 2012 03:15 MeFAT wrote:
On March 07 2012 03:11 Daray wrote:
On March 07 2012 03:07 MeFAT wrote:
[quote]

Out of 3 players:
MC won 3, lost 2
HasuObs won 2, lost 2
Elfi won 2, lost 3

nuff said.


This makes no sense to me.


Well, the caster said Elfi is the best PvP player in the world and most on here think he's better than MC in PvP. But, out of the 3 players that played PvP against each other, Elfi has the worst win/loss ratio.


Its their job to hype up things that probably shouldn't be hyped up.

A few bo3 doesn't really prove anything in the world of PvP.


Is that really their job? I like what the casters on the IMBTV stream said, that they have no qualms calling a game over when it is over, and don't feel the need to pander to viewers who are probably smarter than that anyways.

I'm not saying bitterdam did that specifically, but it's something that happens far too often from all the casters, although tasteosis seem much more comfortable in saying that a game is over or a play is bad.

Is there really not enough content in a sc2 match that you have to make up excitement that isn't there? I think the game is exciting enough that simple analysis would hold viewers. That of course requires casters to actually be good at analysis, the number of which are capable I can count on one hand.


Oh please, Elfi obviously has the best PvP in the world. He's able to openly do shit that makes zero sense and win with it. How is this anything less than awe inspiring?


...are you unaware of the Korean scene or do you just choose to ignore it? Your constant foreigner bias is infuriating.


He's specifically stated that he pays little attention to the Korean scene



Does everyone think he is serious? I'm pretty sure that was not a serious statement, he was just mocking the uproar in this thread.


Thank you for being the only guy to pick up on what I thought was a pretty obvious troll.

Elfi played great. No one that knows Starcraft really believes he's the best in the world at anything.

(But I still love you, Elfi)


lol whoops. I got trolled.
"thx for all my fans i'm many lost but cheer for me .. i lost but so happy my power is fans i will good play this is promise my fans" - oGsMC
eme
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland105 Posts
March 07 2012 08:03 GMT
#2609
Well, best in the world at anything is kinda harsh. I reckon he's one of the, if not the best maru fan.

On a more serious note, I'm so happy for elfi, I just wish he would get better at other match-ups, especially pvz.
LastDance
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
New Zealand510 Posts
March 07 2012 08:04 GMT
#2610
haha can't believe they stuck nerchio in a group stacked with toss >_<
dynwar7
Profile Joined May 2011
1983 Posts
March 07 2012 08:17 GMT
#2611
So right this second what matches are on? My internet so slow I cant stream properly.

Hope someone can tell me what matches are on now, is it quarter final/semi/etc.

Thanks
Regarding the imbalance, hilarious to see Zergs defending themselves....
Venomsflame
Profile Joined February 2011
United States613 Posts
March 07 2012 12:29 GMT
#2612
On March 07 2012 16:00 MrBitter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 10:23 Venomsflame wrote:
On March 07 2012 10:22 Dakkas wrote:
On March 07 2012 10:16 Ausfailia wrote:
On March 07 2012 05:10 MrBitter wrote:
On March 07 2012 03:23 zefreak wrote:
On March 07 2012 03:19 Daray wrote:
On March 07 2012 03:15 MeFAT wrote:
On March 07 2012 03:11 Daray wrote:
On March 07 2012 03:07 MeFAT wrote:
[quote]

Out of 3 players:
MC won 3, lost 2
HasuObs won 2, lost 2
Elfi won 2, lost 3

nuff said.


This makes no sense to me.


Well, the caster said Elfi is the best PvP player in the world and most on here think he's better than MC in PvP. But, out of the 3 players that played PvP against each other, Elfi has the worst win/loss ratio.


Its their job to hype up things that probably shouldn't be hyped up.

A few bo3 doesn't really prove anything in the world of PvP.


Is that really their job? I like what the casters on the IMBTV stream said, that they have no qualms calling a game over when it is over, and don't feel the need to pander to viewers who are probably smarter than that anyways.

I'm not saying bitterdam did that specifically, but it's something that happens far too often from all the casters, although tasteosis seem much more comfortable in saying that a game is over or a play is bad.

Is there really not enough content in a sc2 match that you have to make up excitement that isn't there? I think the game is exciting enough that simple analysis would hold viewers. That of course requires casters to actually be good at analysis, the number of which are capable I can count on one hand.


Oh please, Elfi obviously has the best PvP in the world. He's able to openly do shit that makes zero sense and win with it. How is this anything less than awe inspiring?


...are you unaware of the Korean scene or do you just choose to ignore it? Your constant foreigner bias is infuriating.


He's specifically stated that he pays little attention to the Korean scene



Does everyone think he is serious? I'm pretty sure that was not a serious statement, he was just mocking the uproar in this thread.


Thank you for being the only guy to pick up on what I thought was a pretty obvious troll.

Elfi played great. No one that knows Starcraft really believes he's the best in the world at anything.

(But I still love you, Elfi)


I thought it was a pretty clear troll. Even if you DID think Elfi was undeniably the best PvPer in the world posting it in this thread would have just been silly.

My favorite thing about Elfi is how fucking happy he looks after every win. Even when he loses a Bo3 1-2 he's smiling and giddy and it's the best thing ever. Hope he does well, even if it's by the "randomness of PvP."
Venomsflame
Profile Joined February 2011
United States613 Posts
March 07 2012 12:30 GMT
#2613
On March 07 2012 17:04 LastDance wrote:
haha can't believe they stuck nerchio in a group stacked with toss >_<


This made me sad too I was really hoping he'd make it through.
SkaPunk
Profile Joined October 2010
United States471 Posts
March 07 2012 20:04 GMT
#2614
On March 07 2012 21:30 Venomsflame wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 17:04 LastDance wrote:
haha can't believe they stuck nerchio in a group stacked with toss >_<


This made me sad too I was really hoping he'd make it through.


Cheer up
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Conquest101
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1395 Posts
March 09 2012 15:59 GMT
#2615
On March 06 2012 18:27 Conquest101 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2012 18:24 krisss wrote:
I have so much money on the line. Every penny on MMA. Im gonna make so much cash today. MMA on fire.


I have to quote this so I can congratulate or console you later on lol.


jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
March 09 2012 16:05 GMT
#2616
On March 10 2012 00:59 Conquest101 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2012 18:27 Conquest101 wrote:
On March 06 2012 18:24 krisss wrote:
I have so much money on the line. Every penny on MMA. Im gonna make so much cash today. MMA on fire.


I have to quote this so I can congratulate or console you later on lol.



hahaha well kids, this is why gambling is bad. MMA won the first 14 games he played, but lost the last 3.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
spawnferkel
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany87 Posts
March 10 2012 11:48 GMT
#2617
i dont think you can call that gambling
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