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On March 27 2012 22:32 gonzaw wrote:
@VE: So, did that "prodding" of yours help at all or something? You "proded" several people based on some pointless stuff, but you never dwelled back on it again IIRC
I've found the responses to my prods exceedingly helpful in my personal hunt for scum. I've placed a vote on who I think is scum the most so far, and you've failed to comment on or even acknowledge that fact.
Please do so. Go look at C_C and tell me what you think before you ask me useless questions again.
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On March 27 2012 23:19 Bluelightz wrote:
Hmm VE Good Point, Gonna read some others though, as for my scum read, what do you think of cccalf's response to my post?
It seems like a perfectly reasonable new-player response. If he continues to be useless, feel free to shoot him in the face if you're a vig. I don't want to lynch him yet, though...perhaps if he continues to be useless until deadline he'll be a more attractive lynch, but likely not if we have some decent scum suspects.
What do you think about gonzaw?
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I don't like his posts, his first post has lots of fluff( I might say but I'm not so sure on this one). his second is setup speculation, it takes TWO posts to get his point out and clear >_>?, wait a sec on his 3rd post still thinking about
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On his 4rd post, gonzaw was trying to get his points across to BH, and some questions, I dont feel this post is scummy.
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On March 27 2012 23:00 Bluelightz wrote:
Zentor, since your here, What is your read on EchelonTee?
*cough* you're *cough*
EchelonTee seems to be behaving rather erratically.
He starts by being helpful and explaining how he would treat the game.
On March 27 2012 10:14 EchelonTee wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2012 08:27 slOosh wrote:On March 27 2012 08:21 froggynoddy wrote:
I am finding this setup really difficult to get my head around (not on the mechanics, just how to play optimally and scumhunt accordingly). It shouldn't be at all different no? Actually I've been meaning to ask a similar question. Does a closed-setup in general change basic scumhunting principles or do they just allow/favor different styles of play? honestly I am treating this game like a standard Mini Mafia, with the knowledge that there is probably a few doods with nukes or powers revolving around nukes. AKA, re-skinned medics/vigs. and if there's anything I learned from minis, it's that there's always scum hiding in the lurkers. In general I'll always argue against policy lynches (because they're bad) but in a Mini, with so few people town simply cannot afford to have non-contributors whose alignment cannot be determined. People lurking scummily (yeah there's a difference between innocent lurking and scummily lurking) should be axed over someone with only a weak case on them. gonzaw! shouldn't you be spamming the thread by now?
He continues his good townie streak by questioning BH's play with reasons.
On March 27 2012 12:59 EchelonTee wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On March 27 2012 12:39 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2012 12:22 Nemesis wrote:On March 27 2012 11:52 Blazinghand wrote:/confirm Good morning, gentlemen. First off, regarding our discussion of policy lynches: I personally apply a soft "lynch all lurkers" and "lynch all liars" policy to all the games in which I play. My first goal is always to lynch scum. Scum likes to lurk, and scum likes to lie. I am highly suspicious of lurkers and liars, but I will not automatically lynch every lurker and every liar-- this is too easily abused by scum. That being said, I have lynched lurkers and liars in the past and am not afraid to do so in this game. Nobody can convince me to modify my personal stance and I will not do so. Secondarily, regarding setup: This is fairly simple. This is a closed setup with 10 town and 4 scum. Scum can win by either the traditional fashion, or by destroying 5 specific players or the other 5 specific players as an alternative wincon. It is immediately obvious that we should not share our alignment. Anarcy fo life On March 27 2012 10:13 Nemesis wrote:On March 27 2012 08:19 zelblade wrote:
Blabla no lynch bad blahblah
In sch post mre ltr Do you mind posting something coherent? On March 27 2012 07:49 Cyber_Cheese wrote:On March 27 2012 07:43 VisceraEyes wrote:
Perhaps. Perhaps not. I noticed that you didn't give an opinion one way or the other C_C, is there a reason you don't want to commit to a stance? As town, it's hard to stay with a solid stance. Games change, and ultimately these little things never seem to come up anyway. As mafia, having a solid stance and sticking with it is basically a free pass. Ultimately, 'lurking' and 'lying' are only a fraction of a persons play. However, if it's a stance you want: In my experience, the moment you bother lynching the lurkers is the moment you know mafia are in control of the game, especially if it's done sooner. WIFOMIf we can conclusively prove someone was lying, that person should be suspect in the first place, and automatically be rated higher than lurkers. Thanks for stating the obvious. This is a rather crappy post. Town SHOULD always take a stance. If your stance change throughout the game, then you just have to explain why it changed. Scum are the only one who should fear taking stances, as they can get caught when their explanation doesn't match with their stance. The town should not take a unified stance. If we rigidly follow a unified stance scum will just crap on us. We must always adapt to the situation at hand. The idea that you're somehow gonna catch scum because of their thoughts on a POLICY LYNCH is so utterly preposterous as to be asinine in character. Policy lynches are the last resort of a lost town, not some vital centerpiece for scumhunting. I hope you can understand that. ![[image loading]](http://i.minus.com/iUBP2UtMo1zk2.gif) In this image: Blazinghand and Nemesis. Lol, ok one last post before I go to sleep. Stop misrepresenting what I said to defend your scummate: 1. I never said that town should take a unified stance. Just that they should take a stance on important things. 2. I never said we shouldn't adapt. In fact, I explicitly said that stances do change, and you just need to explain it when they change. 3. I never said that discussing policy lynches are important. Sinensis, would you please stop inflating useless topics? 1) the idea that the town should take a stance is not good. Individually, we should make our own stances and developed them with the discussion 3) discussion of policy lynches implies they are important. I believe they are important insofar as we use them in an appropriate faction. It seems to me that your statements are unnecessarily aggressive and are hurting the town atmosphere. Your removal will help the town greatly and improve our discourse. In any case, I think this will be appropriate: ##Vote: SinensisWhen you wake up I expect some actually helpful posts. Actually, I expect an OMGUS, but ideally you'd make some helpful posts. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/FIZjv.gif) come at me bro preface: this aint no chainsaw blzinghand, I feel that you're being the unnecessarily aggressive one here. first you say it's bad that nemesis is using policy as a centerpiece for lynching, then you state it's bad that nemesis says policy lynch discussion isn't important? your arguement doesn't flow. and dude, you misread his original post; he's saying "town should take stance" as in townies should each have their own stance. ur being all flashy and stuff. is this normal BH? + Show Spoiler +where do you get your gifs?
He then starts to go crazy.
On March 27 2012 13:15 EchelonTee wrote:blzinghand i think you talking craAAAzzzy, and not the crazy I like. I mean just look at this nonsensical post Show nested quote +On March 27 2012 13:04 Blazinghand wrote:
But the fact of the matter is, he did somehow wake up to respond to my posts. He will doubtlessly claim that he hadn't yet gone to bed... but bear in mind that his series of actions is distinctly something a scum player WOULD do.
+ Show Spoiler +Blazinghand: I thought you went to sleep. Nemesis: I was just checking thr- Blazinghand: He lied!! Townies never wake back up!! Lynch!!! Jubjubs (chanting): It makes so much sense!
He then transitions from crazy back to normal good townie in this post.
On March 27 2012 14:09 EchelonTee wrote:
TAKE ON SOMEONE YOUR OWN SIZE BUB
##vote: Blazinghand
Being good at arguing doesn't make you town. At this point you're just wildly voting people. Sowing dat chaos. Way to take the one off statement in his post and ignore the rest. You're voting people off of semantic mistakes as opposed to having any real reasoning, so thread flounders under your boot. As you might say, this kind of thinking hurts town. Scum.
He does this a few times throughout his posts. To be honest, I can't decide if this is town or mafia behavior. He could be a town who is mixing BH's and VE's styles. He could be scum trying to make it seem like he is helping town while sowing chaos. I'll let somebody else decide. :/
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On March 27 2012 23:34 MrZentor wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2012 23:00 Bluelightz wrote:
Zentor, since your here, What is your read on EchelonTee? *cough* you're *cough*
Guys I think that we have found our first nazi here.
Here MrZentor corrects bluelightz's grammar, basically acting like a grammar nazi.
I think our first scum just claimed. LYNCHHHHHHHHHHHH
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The important thing to note is that in his first post, he was sure to give the useless/obvious advice of "don't claim your nationality" but didn't seem interested in the fact that C_C already had. It seems to me that if I had an idea about something that's anti-town to do (claiming nationality) and someone has done this thing in thread (C_C) I'd be interested in hearing his reasons for doing so. He doesn't. Like he didn't even read it or something, when it's a big fat graphic in C_C's (only) post.
I don't like the smell of it. It smells like....SCUM
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...... Agreed lol, If you want to push a lynch on him im fine with it too.
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On March 27 2012 23:38 zelblade wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2012 23:34 MrZentor wrote:On March 27 2012 23:00 Bluelightz wrote:
Zentor, since your here, What is your read on EchelonTee? *cough* you're *cough* Guys I think that we have found our first nazi here. Here MrZentor corrects bluelightz's grammar, basically acting like a grammar nazi. I think our first scum just claimed. LYNCHHHHHHHHHHHH
I prefer the title of "grammar enthusiast".
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On a more serious note I do agree with the rest of your post. ET is acting off to me, and I dont really like this new posting style of his. Whilst it seems different from a couple of his scum games I have read, this playstyle of his doesnt exactly mirror his town play either.
I also dont like him voting blazinghand, unvoting after johnny joins his wagon, only explaining why after he gets called out like a few hours later. Would a "sorry guys I reread and dont feel blzinghand is scum anymore..."
Ill be keeping a eye on him for sure.
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On March 27 2012 23:41 zelblade wrote:
On a more serious note I do agree with the rest of your post. ET is acting off to me, and I dont really like this new posting style of his. Whilst it seems different from a couple of his scum games I have read, this playstyle of his doesnt exactly mirror his town play either.
I also dont like him voting blazinghand, unvoting after johnny joins his wagon, only explaining why after he gets called out like a few hours later. Would a "sorry guys I reread and dont feel blzinghand is scum anymore..." be that hard to type?
Ill be keeping a eye on him for sure.
EBWOP missed out some stuff (bolded it)
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zel and Zentor - discussing town-reads is like, COOL and everything...but I'd like to use our time to find scum if you don't mind. Townhunting is more effective late-game when there are fewer people to speculate about.
You two need to post your thoughts on my case against C_C in detail and give your thoughts on my other scum-read gonzaw.
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On March 27 2012 23:38 VisceraEyes wrote:
The important thing to note is that in his first post, he was sure to give the useless/obvious advice of "don't claim your nationality" but didn't seem interested in the fact that C_C already had. It seems to me that if I had an idea about something that's anti-town to do (claiming nationality) and someone has done this thing in thread (C_C) I'd be interested in hearing his reasons for doing so. He doesn't. Like he didn't even read it or something, when it's a big fat graphic in C_C's (only) post.
I don't like the smell of it. It smells like....SCUM
How did I miss that.
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Alright guys gonna go sleep for tonight, cya in the morning  as a summary, C_C and cccalf, and possibly gonzaw I will vote for if you guys want to lynch him in the morning when I wake up, other lynch candidates I will review before voting.
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On March 27 2012 23:43 VisceraEyes wrote:
zel and Zentor - discussing town-reads is like, COOL and everything...but I'd like to use our time to find scum if you don't mind. Townhunting is more effective late-game when there are fewer people to speculate about.
You two need to post your thoughts on my case against C_C in detail and give your thoughts on my other scum-read gonzaw.
Already did.
+ Show Spoiler +All right. Home and caught up.
I agree with VE that cyber_cheese is definately suspicious. His nationaliy softclaim does nothing for town unless he has some master plan I am not aware of, and I dont like it at all.
He proceeds to than call VE out for his ego, yet he doesnt do anything with this statement, not making any sort of conclusion, simply implanting the idea that VE's claim to be good at da game is scummy. Not to mention that he drops it instantly after VE calls him back out, instead dodging what I felt was the essence of VE's question - why bother posting some crap when he didnt really want to push it, or have a solid opinion of it? Guess he really wanted something to go along with that nice little picture of his I guess.
I want to hear why he decided to soft claim his nationality.
Solid lynch at this rate.
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I dont like gonzaw either. His activity is a pretty huge drop from a certain game, and his posts havent really done much in the way of scumhunting, besides generic advice. I also dont like how he dodges the C_C matter completely, and your point is the nail in the coffin. If C_C does indeed flip scum I say theres a huge chance gonzaw is scum too.
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