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On December 03 2013 22:42 bumatlarge wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2013 22:40 sandroba wrote:
And that's 20min trying to think of a bullshit explanation for your post. I bet you wished you hadn't made that post bum. You sure saved me a lot of typing =). Your reasons are pretty bad, just because I'm acting weird, doesn't mean I'm mafia. Which is pretty much what you are saying. Do you think LSB is mafia?
lol okay. I get it...
combined with the fact that he did not pick what was in his list. well... really scummy.
But i had a good feeling about him
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=436086¤tpage=39
right there. at this point of the game, the thread was somehow not there, where i wanted him to be.
We needed the rolepicking discussion.
That discussion happened too late to coordinate the action.
Both, Bum and I came in the thread with a similar mindset. That gave me a good feeling about him.
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On December 04 2013 09:45 Mig wrote:
Does anyone have experience with jay's town game and how much effort he generally puts in?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=395690&user=jaybrundage&view=all
On December 04 2013 09:38 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2013 09:35 geript wrote:On December 04 2013 09:33 marvellosity wrote:
"I lurk superhard as scum" ------> goes missing for 24h and comes in with a terrible, generic +1 vote with no thought behind it. What do you think of the paranoid argument. The more I think about it, the more I realise that a paranoid town Jay would be more pessimistic of people in general. The focus on Marv seems doesn't make sense with the jump to Bum. When I played with jay in nomination; he was unpredictable and confused as town (i.e. would flip reads instantly on new information). He's not showing any signs of this paranoia; its all suspicion that could have been said pre-game... as his reasoning for marv being scum weren't in-game related.
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Sorry, I noted down this post also as I was catching up. I'm just going to say something now even though I don't want or expect anything to happen with it this cycle.
On December 04 2013 05:00 Onegu wrote:
So Im on page 66 rigjt now and it 3am. I promise I will catch up tomorrow, but deadline is in 7 hours. So I am right now confident in my ability to read rayn and believe he is town as he was the first person to really start scum hunting. So I am going to sheep him and consolidate, as close to where I am reading people said it was really important not to have outlander votes so people can analyze it. So I should be up before deadline amd get somemore reading in.
##Vote:bumatlarge
This read on rayn seems really overblown. It doesn't take a genius to work out the guy with easily the longest filter is probably town. Also too much explanation on why he's parking his vote where he's parking his vote.
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Jay's obviously not helping the town but why does his last post bother you so much? Is it the comment that he likes LSB's read on Bum? That post doesn't say much to me.
His initial attack on you seems motivated by how much you burned his ass in the last game more than anything. I see where it could be used to gain town cred but what a weird way to go about it.
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On December 04 2013 09:52 JonnyLaw wrote:
Jay's obviously not helping the town but why does his last post bother you so much? Is it the comment that he likes LSB's read on Bum? That post doesn't say much to me.
His initial attack on you seems motivated by how much you burned his ass in the last game more than anything. I see where it could be used to gain town cred but what a weird way to go about it.
So you would entertain the thought of lynching someone because he fooled you once?
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On December 04 2013 09:52 JonnyLaw wrote:
Jay's obviously not helping the town but why does his last post bother you so much? Is it the comment that he likes LSB's read on Bum? That post doesn't say much to me.
His initial attack on you seems motivated by how much you burned his ass in the last game more than anything. I see where it could be used to gain town cred but what a weird way to go about it.
Basically last time he posted he was promising to read filters and contribute to the game. He comes back to the thread with some indication that he has in fact read the thread (enough to mention LSB and sandro and what they said about bum) but literally has no other contribution of note. He's totally opted out of doing anything today, which fits in much more with how he plays mafia than how he plays town. He seems to have zero interest in thinking critically about the game or doing anything. It reads like he made that post because he HAD to, not because he wanted to.
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No I wouldn't. Jay seems awkwardly obsessed with Marv tho.
I dunno if he wants to kiss Marv's feet or take him into a dark alley and beat him.
+ Show Spoiler +During the game I played with you I thought you were towns tons of times. Reads can change thru out the game. But you played scum very well and proceeded to trick everyone and win the game as scum. I thought i had played another game with you but i was wrong. Regardless my whole post was to say you play a very good scum and I if you play townie-like there is a still a very strong chance you can be scum. So im gonna FOS you like a sonovabitch.
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Both sound pretty kinky to me.
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Also to note Jat, that's really Jay's only read in this entire game.
Which at the end of D1 is reallly bad.
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I wish bum would come back and post some shiz, because being a european I can't stay awake indefinitely.
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On December 04 2013 09:54 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2013 09:52 JonnyLaw wrote:
Jay's obviously not helping the town but why does his last post bother you so much? Is it the comment that he likes LSB's read on Bum? That post doesn't say much to me.
His initial attack on you seems motivated by how much you burned his ass in the last game more than anything. I see where it could be used to gain town cred but what a weird way to go about it. Basically last time he posted he was promising to read filters and contribute to the game. He comes back to the thread with some indication that he has in fact read the thread (enough to mention LSB and sandro and what they said about bum) but literally has no other contribution of note. He's totally opted out of doing anything today, which fits in much more with how he plays mafia than how he plays town. He seems to have zero interest in thinking critically about the game or doing anything. It reads like he made that post because he HAD to, not because he wanted to.
I agree, reading his filter from the nomination game he's jumping on people everywhere and making scum reads. They're not always right it appears but he's active and hunting.
He's active every day near lynch time and answering when questioned. He is clearly playing differently this game.
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I was hoping that myself Marv.
Bum promised to come back like 2 hours before the deadline and give us his thoughts/reads.
I think it would help a lot if he chimed in.
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As an aside, these were the posts I wanted to think about
On December 04 2013 03:42 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2013 09:07 LSB wrote:
Okay here is my DANGER DANGER list of roles who I want public. Should mafia get their hands on them and use them to their own devices it is basically gg. Viktor, Heimerdinger, Tryndamere, Janna, Kha'Zix
Show nested quote +On December 03 2013 03:34 LSB wrote:
Responses to things pointed at me
On not banning mafia roles:
Comeon guys, if someone picks and uses a mafia role, you kill em because they are scum. No sane townie would ever use the mafia role. Show nested quote +On December 03 2013 11:55 LSB wrote:
My night action is gonna be to move 3 up. Though unless some friendly helper would like to give me more KP, it's gonna be more like a feather than a hammer Does anyone else see the logical problem here? He lists Tryndamere as mafia role, claims someone who picks a mafia role is scum if he uses it, picks Tryndamere and wants to use it although nobody disputes his claim. There is NO REASON for him to pick this role at all because he is dead last on the draft list. Show nested quote +On December 03 2013 12:04 LSB wrote:On December 03 2013 12:01 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
LSB I will take you using your role tonight as a scum claim. Yo, there have been multiple people questioning whether or not I'm actually Tyr and multiple people questioned whether even if I am Tyr if my self reported damage is correct. Sitting on my role is a horrible horrible idea and the quickest way to get lynched day 2. Plus I want to kill Bum. Actually that's most of the reason I don't get why it is horrible to sit on your role. If you are lynched Day2 it won't be because you did not verify your roleclaim. If LSB is scum it makes sense for him to roleclaim after he found out how useless his ability truely is (50 dmg...). If it was more powerful he could have saved this for the right moment or he could have fakeclaimed. Add to this how he did almost nothing besides going roleclaim, roleclaim, roleclaim... Going to look at JonnyLaw and Bum filters now.
On December 04 2013 03:57 sandroba wrote:
People voting LSB here is what I think:
It is only possible LSB is scum if bum is scum.
If Bum is town and LSB is scum, LSB wouldn't have taken trynn, because his team would have told him not to do so since Bum was probably going to take it.
If Bum is scum and LSB is scum, he could have dropped it to LSB, but I don't think that's the most likely scenario.
If Bum is scum and LSB is town and just replaced in and didn't read bum's plans he could have went for tryn. This seems likely to me because LSB only noticed Bum didn't follow his own plan after BC called out bum on it.
The other scenario is bum and lsb are town, which is also possible.
But the base line is, if you think LSB is scum vote Bum first. I bet you any amount you want that if LSB was scum and just replaced in he would have consulted with his team before picking something and they would have told him Bum was planning on picking trynn.
By and large I agree with sandro's reasoning I think, and I noted your post down jat because I agreed with the first half of your post when I read it. LSB posted stuff about it in the interim and I have no idea at all if I buy what he says. I just don't know lol.
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Miss me? Gimme a sec I have the greatest idea for my last post.
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bum I don't want great ideas, I want in-depth honesty and thoughts about the game and people if you're town. Or an attempt at faking it if you're mafia. Asap would be bloomin' lovely.
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Also, Rean, I'm fairly certain Roffles meant that a Olayer would be better off dead in the game. As in they are bad townie.
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Bum you mentioned earlier that you don't have a scum oriented role. 2 hours before you are lynched would be a pretty good time to claim it.
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On December 04 2013 09:32 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2013 09:31 geript wrote:On December 04 2013 09:29 marvellosity wrote:
lol jay is mafia. Christ. Is this like you're agreeing with me thing or a "you're out of your fucking mind again geript" thing? It's a "I just got to his post in the thread and it's fucking terrible thing". His last 3 posts Show nested quote +On December 03 2013 06:50 jaybrundage wrote:
My reasoning for going after Marv is because I played a good scum game and I'm very wary of him cause he won the game for his team. Would scum go after a Vet like Marv let alone my scum play. I basically lurk super hard as scum I wouldn't go after someone like Marv because that would draw unwanted attention. Regardless read my meta or drop the case, cause its shit. Show nested quote +On December 03 2013 06:50 jaybrundage wrote:
VE gimme some of your scum reads so I can go reread filters later tonite. Show nested quote +On December 04 2013 07:56 jaybrundage wrote:
I really liked LSB's post about Bum.
Also sandro's had some good points too.
##Vote Bumatlarge
Also i have been seeing this crop up.
I'm a VT I tried to take lux. Last post is almost directly a scumclaim it feels like. I don't know if I'm overreacting.
the last three posts look terrible - yes.
his filter is short and his interest in this game dramatically decreased based on his posts.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=436086&user=jaybrundage¤tpage=2
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On December 04 2013 10:04 bumatlarge wrote:
Also, Rean, I'm fairly certain Roffles meant that a Olayer would be better off dead in the game. As in they are bad townie.
I think its non-alignment indicative.
I have asked players to replace out as both alignments. Its a wanker thing to do in general though, but I dont think its worth further discussion considering he was warned for it.
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On December 04 2013 10:05 Mig wrote:
Bum you mentioned earlier that you don't have a scum oriented role. 2 hours before you are lynched would be a pretty good time to claim it.
true. Give us something.
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