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phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
May 05 2013 07:00 GMT
#201
VOTE COUNT:


Sugarfluff (2) nobodywonder, jampidampi, calgar

Flowcaster (1) Targe

VayneAuthority (1) nobodywonder

Targe (1) VayneAuthority

Not Voting: All the other cereals.

Breakfast is in ~19 hours. Voting is mandatory.

Currently Sugarfluff is set to be lynched!

If you see your vote (or anyone else') out of place please inform me or someone else on the hosting team so that we can correct it.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
Sugarfluff
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden132 Posts
May 05 2013 07:46 GMT
#202
On May 05 2013 11:09 calgar wrote:

Show nested quote +
On May 04 2013 17:23 Sugarfluff wrote:
For me it's the attitude towards not lynching on the first day. I do think we should lynch, cause as I said I think mafia can use the extra time more, as well as the serial killer. This is my first game though so I'm not sure if not lynching on day 1 is a common strategy, if so I'd love to hear the reasons behind it.
As far as not lynching goes - it's absolutely terrible and town should never entertain this idea. End of story, no need to discuss something useless like this or hear reasons. I dislike how you're trying to imply uncertainty in your decisions and what you say.


I get you logic except this part. I specifically stated that I didn't know if it was useless. What if it wasn't useless, should I not learn it? And you should always get reasons for everything. Which is why Vaynes vote for Targe is just another suspicious move on his part, however right it may be the logic needs to be there and the reasons need to be known.

Anyway, all of JarJarDrinks posts so far have been concerning policy lynching. No attempts at anything else, and if he really felt so strongly about the policy he would have voted, not spent all his posts discussing whether or not we should. My vote is for him.

If something is funny, it is worth doing.
shirokami
Profile Joined April 2013
Finland107 Posts
May 05 2013 09:06 GMT
#203
@spicy
My phone corrects my punctuation so my posts will not lack in that manner, the hard part is to quote and paste things. My punctuation will go worse when I have no autocorrect anymore I'm traveling as I write back to home, still many kilometers to go but hey I will post something big after I get back home.

I'm sorry for not been posting anything with content.

One thing is I like jarjars posts. Will tell you later why.
No clue.
jampidampi
Profile Joined December 2011
Finland386 Posts
May 05 2013 09:10 GMT
#204
On May 05 2013 18:06 shirokami wrote:
@spicy
My phone corrects my punctuation so my posts will not lack in that manner, the hard part is to quote and paste things. My punctuation will go worse when I have no autocorrect anymore I'm traveling as I write back to home, still many kilometers to go but hey I will post something big after I get back home.

I'm sorry for not been posting anything with content.

One thing is I like jarjars posts. Will tell you later why.

Could you give an estimate how long it will take for you to come out with this big post?
shirokami
Profile Joined April 2013
Finland107 Posts
May 05 2013 09:25 GMT
#205
About 8 hours.
No clue.
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
May 05 2013 11:07 GMT
#206
On May 05 2013 11:50 Spicydinosaur wrote:
shirokami is troubling me greatly. Aside from the lack of content in his posts, the only things the posts say are that he is postponing his analysis/discussion.

Show nested quote +
On May 04 2013 21:25 shirokami wrote:
Yo yo.

So about the LAL. It's good for the reason that there are zero reasons to lurk in a thread-only game.

Also I will only have my phone until tomorrow, so my posts today may lack some.


Show nested quote +
On May 05 2013 06:44 shirokami wrote:
Yo yo.

So I have been reading filters (god I love this filter thing) and I have some opinions but I will contribute more in about 19hours when I get back to my key and mouseboard.

I don't want to say something now because I want to tell you why and my nexus 4 is only good for reading, not writing.

Keep the text flowing so we get a good D1 and enough to lynch scum.



He claims his phone is only good for writing, yet his punctuation doesn't that bad. This feels like it comes off as a stall tactic which is not helpful at all. Even if it might be difficult to type, he should have at least posted something beneficial. Perhaps when his "analysis" comes, my mind will change, but for now, he's close to the top of my list.




Just noticed this post, I don't think shirokami is scum right now, grammar and spelling is done for you on a phone and it's hard to write long posts, hopefully he can get his word across before it's time to vote.
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
May 05 2013 11:21 GMT
#207
On May 05 2013 16:46 Sugarfluff wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2013 11:09 calgar wrote:

On May 04 2013 17:23 Sugarfluff wrote:
For me it's the attitude towards not lynching on the first day. I do think we should lynch, cause as I said I think mafia can use the extra time more, as well as the serial killer. This is my first game though so I'm not sure if not lynching on day 1 is a common strategy, if so I'd love to hear the reasons behind it.
As far as not lynching goes - it's absolutely terrible and town should never entertain this idea. End of story, no need to discuss something useless like this or hear reasons. I dislike how you're trying to imply uncertainty in your decisions and what you say.


I get you logic except this part. I specifically stated that I didn't know if it was useless. What if it wasn't useless, should I not learn it? And you should always get reasons for everything. Which is why Vaynes vote for Targe is just another suspicious move on his part, however right it may be the logic needs to be there and the reasons need to be known.

Anyway, all of JarJarDrinks posts so far have been concerning policy lynching. No attempts at anything else, and if he really felt so strongly about the policy he would have voted, not spent all his posts discussing whether or not we should. My vote is for him.



He's assuming that the reasoning is obvious I guess, there is no reason not to lynch, you have moderate odds to get a mafia even by chance and if there are votes on mafia member it pressures them into acting.

Vayne's free to vote for me as no one isn't suspect on D1, he obviously has some logic behind his post but he hasn't shared it just yet.

I'm interested in what Jarjar is going to do, I think the conclusion has been reached that we won't policy lynch? Correct me if I'm wrong. You're right about his posts only concerning policy lynches though, he hasn't put forward any arguments on people and seems to be commenting on general topics only, activity like that is indicative of scum or SK.
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
May 05 2013 17:00 GMT
#208
Just voted for Jampi for reasons already stated. Gonna be out for most of the day but should be back way before the deadline.
Spicydinosaur
Profile Joined April 2013
United States382 Posts
May 05 2013 17:22 GMT
#209
Voted for FloWcaster for no postings. Still waiting on a few others analysis to decide if im going to change it. Got a busy day but will hopefully be back in time for deadline.
nobodywonder
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States848 Posts
May 05 2013 17:53 GMT
#210
This is going to be a terrible lynch if no one frickin' votes. The lynch is not going to give us anything if the votes are too spread out. At this point, I want no bullshit, give me transparency. Right now, I'm annoyed by several people, especially shirokami and vayne. why the hell are you saying that you have logic or stuff to say, but can't do so on day 1?

also @spicydinosaur, don't vote flowcaster for now because at this point he may be replaced or something. why don't you be productive and give an opinion on the active players right now.

i just looked at your filter, shirokami. your filter is terrible. you post but never contribute anything besides saying my phone is terrible for typing and i'll get back to you in a while.

On May 04 2013 21:25 shirokami wrote:
Yo yo.

So about the LAL. It's good for the reason that there are zero reasons to lurk in a thread-only game.

Also I will only have my phone until tomorrow, so my posts today may lack some.


On May 05 2013 06:44 shirokami wrote:
Yo yo.

So I have been reading filters (god I love this filter thing) and I have some opinions but I will contribute more in about 19hours when I get back to my key and mouseboard.

I don't want to say something now because I want to tell you why and my nexus 4 is only good for reading, not writing.

Keep the text flowing so we get a good D1 and enough to lynch scum.


On May 05 2013 18:06 shirokami wrote:
@spicy
My phone corrects my punctuation so my posts will not lack in that manner, the hard part is to quote and paste things. My punctuation will go worse when I have no autocorrect anymore I'm traveling as I write back to home, still many kilometers to go but hey I will post something big after I get back home.

I'm sorry for not been posting anything with content.

One thing is I like jarjars posts. Will tell you later why.


On May 05 2013 18:25 shirokami wrote:
About 8 hours.


You may have a legitimate reason with the phone thing, but seriously delaying contribution and analysis is hugely detrimental to town. I understand you can't quote stuff, but you can still give analysis of Jarjar's post somewhat. I didn't find Jarjar's posting that great...
i want nobody nobody but you! *clap* *clap*- wonder girls
nobodywonder
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States848 Posts
May 05 2013 18:00 GMT
#211
@ spicydinosaur

why didn't you vote for shirokami? why vote for flowcaster?

On May 05 2013 11:50 Spicydinosaur wrote:
shirokami is troubling me greatly. Aside from the lack of content in his posts, the only things the posts say are that he is postponing his analysis/discussion.

Show nested quote +
On May 04 2013 21:25 shirokami wrote:
Yo yo.

So about the LAL. It's good for the reason that there are zero reasons to lurk in a thread-only game.

Also I will only have my phone until tomorrow, so my posts today may lack some.


Show nested quote +
On May 05 2013 06:44 shirokami wrote:
Yo yo.

So I have been reading filters (god I love this filter thing) and I have some opinions but I will contribute more in about 19hours when I get back to my key and mouseboard.

I don't want to say something now because I want to tell you why and my nexus 4 is only good for reading, not writing.

Keep the text flowing so we get a good D1 and enough to lynch scum.



He claims his phone is only good for writing, yet his punctuation doesn't that bad. This feels like it comes off as a stall tactic which is not helpful at all. Even if it might be difficult to type, he should have at least posted something beneficial. Perhaps when his "analysis" comes, my mind will change, but for now, he's close to the top of my list.




On May 06 2013 02:22 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Voted for FloWcaster for no postings. Still waiting on a few others analysis to decide if im going to change it. Got a busy day but will hopefully be back in time for deadline.

i want nobody nobody but you! *clap* *clap*- wonder girls
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
May 05 2013 18:04 GMT
#212
On May 06 2013 03:00 nobodywonder wrote:
@ spicydinosaur

why didn't you vote for shirokami? why vote for flowcaster?

Show nested quote +
On May 05 2013 11:50 Spicydinosaur wrote:
shirokami is troubling me greatly. Aside from the lack of content in his posts, the only things the posts say are that he is postponing his analysis/discussion.

On May 04 2013 21:25 shirokami wrote:
Yo yo.

So about the LAL. It's good for the reason that there are zero reasons to lurk in a thread-only game.

Also I will only have my phone until tomorrow, so my posts today may lack some.


On May 05 2013 06:44 shirokami wrote:
Yo yo.

So I have been reading filters (god I love this filter thing) and I have some opinions but I will contribute more in about 19hours when I get back to my key and mouseboard.

I don't want to say something now because I want to tell you why and my nexus 4 is only good for reading, not writing.

Keep the text flowing so we get a good D1 and enough to lynch scum.



He claims his phone is only good for writing, yet his punctuation doesn't that bad. This feels like it comes off as a stall tactic which is not helpful at all. Even if it might be difficult to type, he should have at least posted something beneficial. Perhaps when his "analysis" comes, my mind will change, but for now, he's close to the top of my list.




Show nested quote +
On May 06 2013 02:22 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Voted for FloWcaster for no postings. Still waiting on a few others analysis to decide if im going to change it. Got a busy day but will hopefully be back in time for deadline.



I'm going to be changing my vote from flowmaster, he hasn't posted once so is going to be modkilled and replaced.
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
nobodywonder
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States848 Posts
May 05 2013 18:09 GMT
#213
@Vayne, just tell us why you vote Targe? Targe's posting doesn't seem particularly bad. At this point, Targe isn't even going to be lynched...in that case, will you tell us tomorrow? Or just hold it forever? In the end you should TELL US TODAY, otherwise I'm definitely saying you are scum.

If Targe is scum, then I don't see why wouldn't you just make a case and show us. Vayne, your play just doesn't make sense.

I actually have a couple of concerns about Targe's play too, so if you give us the analysis then that would be great.
i want nobody nobody but you! *clap* *clap*- wonder girls
nobodywonder
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States848 Posts
May 05 2013 18:10 GMT
#214
On May 06 2013 03:04 Targe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2013 03:00 nobodywonder wrote:
@ spicydinosaur

why didn't you vote for shirokami? why vote for flowcaster?

On May 05 2013 11:50 Spicydinosaur wrote:
shirokami is troubling me greatly. Aside from the lack of content in his posts, the only things the posts say are that he is postponing his analysis/discussion.

On May 04 2013 21:25 shirokami wrote:
Yo yo.

So about the LAL. It's good for the reason that there are zero reasons to lurk in a thread-only game.

Also I will only have my phone until tomorrow, so my posts today may lack some.


On May 05 2013 06:44 shirokami wrote:
Yo yo.

So I have been reading filters (god I love this filter thing) and I have some opinions but I will contribute more in about 19hours when I get back to my key and mouseboard.

I don't want to say something now because I want to tell you why and my nexus 4 is only good for reading, not writing.

Keep the text flowing so we get a good D1 and enough to lynch scum.



He claims his phone is only good for writing, yet his punctuation doesn't that bad. This feels like it comes off as a stall tactic which is not helpful at all. Even if it might be difficult to type, he should have at least posted something beneficial. Perhaps when his "analysis" comes, my mind will change, but for now, he's close to the top of my list.




On May 06 2013 02:22 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Voted for FloWcaster for no postings. Still waiting on a few others analysis to decide if im going to change it. Got a busy day but will hopefully be back in time for deadline.



I'm going to be changing my vote from flowmaster, he hasn't posted once so is going to be modkilled and replaced.


why jarjar? explain.
i want nobody nobody but you! *clap* *clap*- wonder girls
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
May 05 2013 18:12 GMT
#215
Voted JarJarDinks for now because of previously stated reasons, shirokami, can you please post that analysis soon? It may give some more insight as to your alignment as well as influencing several people's votes.
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
May 05 2013 18:14 GMT
#216
On May 06 2013 03:10 nobodywonder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2013 03:04 Targe wrote:
On May 06 2013 03:00 nobodywonder wrote:
@ spicydinosaur

why didn't you vote for shirokami? why vote for flowcaster?

On May 05 2013 11:50 Spicydinosaur wrote:
shirokami is troubling me greatly. Aside from the lack of content in his posts, the only things the posts say are that he is postponing his analysis/discussion.

On May 04 2013 21:25 shirokami wrote:
Yo yo.

So about the LAL. It's good for the reason that there are zero reasons to lurk in a thread-only game.

Also I will only have my phone until tomorrow, so my posts today may lack some.


On May 05 2013 06:44 shirokami wrote:
Yo yo.

So I have been reading filters (god I love this filter thing) and I have some opinions but I will contribute more in about 19hours when I get back to my key and mouseboard.

I don't want to say something now because I want to tell you why and my nexus 4 is only good for reading, not writing.

Keep the text flowing so we get a good D1 and enough to lynch scum.



He claims his phone is only good for writing, yet his punctuation doesn't that bad. This feels like it comes off as a stall tactic which is not helpful at all. Even if it might be difficult to type, he should have at least posted something beneficial. Perhaps when his "analysis" comes, my mind will change, but for now, he's close to the top of my list.




On May 06 2013 02:22 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Voted for FloWcaster for no postings. Still waiting on a few others analysis to decide if im going to change it. Got a busy day but will hopefully be back in time for deadline.



I'm going to be changing my vote from flowmaster, he hasn't posted once so is going to be modkilled and replaced.


why jarjar? explain.


I'm suspecting jarjar because he hasn't expressed opinions of other people, he has only explained his opinions on general things such as lynch policy, seems like he is trying to avoid lurking whilst appearing to contribute.
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
shirokami
Profile Joined April 2013
Finland107 Posts
May 05 2013 18:36 GMT
#217
HELLO PEOPLE ITS TIME FOR ANALYSIS!
No clue.
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
May 05 2013 18:52 GMT
#218
VOTE COUNT:


Sugarfluff (2) nobodywonder, jampidampi, calgar

Flowcaster (1) Targe, SpicyDinosaur

VayneAuthority (1) nobodywonder

Targe (1) VayneAuthority

JarJarDrinks (2) Sugarfluff, Targe

jampidampi (1) JarJarDrinks

Not Voting: shirokami, jrkirby, eSpi.Casey, FloWcaster

Breakfast is in ~7 hours. Voting is mandatory.

Currently Sugarfluff is set to be lynched!

If you see your vote (or anyone else') out of place please inform me or someone else on the hosting team so that we can correct it.

"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
jampidampi
Profile Joined December 2011
Finland386 Posts
May 05 2013 18:52 GMT
#219
I having problems deciding which scummy fucker I lynch. There are so many scummy people running around I just can't decide which of them should run around no more. I haven't yet decided who will get my final vote, but it should become clearer to me as I construct this post.

shirokami and eSpi.Casey promised contributions, but they are nowhere to be seen.

JarJarDrinks has only tunneled me. Reading a past town game from him, he's perfectly capable of thinking multiple people at the same time, yet here he doesn't do that. JarJar is clinging on to a single thing I said, and doesn't even consider other things I say, not to mention everything everyone else says.

jrkirbys filter is a lot of nothing and a little bit lurking. In fact, I can summarize his "contributions" in two words: don't lurk. Yet that appears to be exactly what he is doing. The only other posts in his filter not about lurking are these:
On May 04 2013 12:21 jrkirby wrote:
@nobodywonder: Being VT in other games doesn't affect the probability of you being town in this game. You had the same probability of being scum as the rest of us.
jrkirby notes the correct probablity works. A null post in a vacuum, but given that it is his only contribution, it is is starting to smell like scum.
On May 05 2013 03:35 jrkirby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2013 02:36 nobodywonder wrote:
On May 05 2013 02:22 jrkirby wrote:
Well sugarfluff has stopped lurking, so the votes on him are kinda pointless. As targe pointed out, flowcaster is lurking, and also I notice shirokami is lurking, but he try to give an excuse at least.
@jrkirby, what do you think of sugarfluff's posting so far?
Nothing particularly suspicious yet.
jrkirby responds when called out. This is the only time we hear his opinions on any specific player.

Calgar posted some reasonings pointing to Sugarfluff being scum. link
I see little clear towntells in Sugarfluffs filter. It's not a strong read, but he isn't appearing very townie.

VayneAuthority behaviour is really scummy. I'll not repeat previous analysis, but not sharing your though process when providing your only scumread is scummy as hell. However, this and similiar things make me want to give him just a little bit on extra time.
On May 04 2013 12:38 VayneAuthority wrote:
this will be rough considering it is a no clue game. First day of lynching is just purely a guess at this point, ill probably get the ball rolling later once I see some more posts


I have my suspicions on Targe too, but they aren't that significant and I want see VayneAuthority says about him before anyone else analyses him.


This ended being a big list post of more than half of the players in the game, but right now I'm up to lynching JarJar or jrkirby, unless something convincing comes up.
shirokami
Profile Joined April 2013
Finland107 Posts
May 05 2013 18:53 GMT
#220
Im voting vayne for obvious scumslip: THERE ARE NO FRICKIN REASON TO NOT TELL YOU WHY SOMEONE IS SCUM IN A THREAD-ONLY GAME. It only looks bad and I think the reason in his vote against targe was because he has no reason. My logs are saying that targe is not scummy so thats it. I bet all my monnies that vayne flips scum.

Also about people voting JarJar, I like how he roasted jampidampi but they are both null for me right now, but they are definitely not scumbuddies, because only pro-scum even DARE do that kind of moves and this is not a pro-game. scum don't like attention.

Oh and people who sheep someone, Please say why. If you dont say why, thats useless and makes you look like a woolly babylonian.

@Calgar

Dude. you started the game with good discussion about LaL, but please contribute more, I want to see you post, because your filter is not fun.


@everyone

Feel free to ask anything.
No clue.
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