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##vote Vanesco
Here's the beginning of the long posts.
Vanesco repeatedly apologizes and brings nothing new to the table. Jumping on with Storr.
+ Show Spoiler +On October 30 2013 10:15 Vanesco wrote:
Or maybe Storr is trying to pressure Balla or see if someone decides to jump on it...
You seem very defensive of Balla, especially since nothing of importance has been given by anybody as of yet. I think pressuring people to talk is a good thing on the start of Day 1 since nobody is confirmed (apart from Obzy ofc).
Why so indecisive already? Seems like derailing and pushing towards cake following the trail. Cake looking more like inexperienced town than scum to me.
+ Show Spoiler +On October 30 2013 10:15 Vanesco wrote:
Or maybe Storr is trying to pressure Balla or see if someone decides to jump on it...
You seem very defensive of Balla, especially since nothing of importance has been given by anybody as of yet. I think pressuring people to talk is a good thing on the start of Day 1 since nobody is confirmed (apart from Obzy ofc).
Remember he jumped on an EARLY bandwagon.
+ Show Spoiler +On October 30 2013 11:40 Vanesco wrote:
@cakemanofdoom
All I'm saying is that onlywonderboy didn't really respond to StorrZ comment other than saying he doesn't agree. You on the other hand just talk about Storr trying to pressure Balla with no evidence (which is in my opinion is a justified play on page 1 of day 1). It just seems to me like you are trying to redirect off of Balla.
And again so apologetic. If you're not mafia what do you have to hide?
+ Show Spoiler +On October 30 2013 11:46 Vanesco wrote:
@Obzy
In my mind I play by thinking everybody is potential mafia at the start(except for me and you). Maybe defending was a wrong word to use, instead maybe redirecting would be better. If Balla and cakeman are mafia together, then it seems like cakeman is trying to redirect off of Balla by saying that there is no concrete evidence (like I have said many times before, there shouldnt be on page 1 of day 1). It just seems very scummy since the only way to get people to talk at the start of the day is to put a bit of pressure and he is trying to take it off Balla.
There are a couple more apologizing posts then this one jumping on poofter. I'm saying poofter/vanesco are both scum.
[+ Show Spoiler +QUOTE]On October 30 2013 14:17 Vanesco wrote:
Exactly Balla, I was just about to post about Tehpoofter. I would like to hear from him, even if he thinks he has nothing to add, it would help town.
Show me otherwise.
Do we have a voting thread?
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I want responses poofter and Vanesco. Sleeping and another game are fine since we still have some time before votes are tallied and we lynch.
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asians always get shafted wrt times ):
so as promised, i'll try to make some reads this time rather than just not posting. so far i'm liking either Vanesco or cakeman for a day 1 lynch. cakeman constantly questioning himself is questionable (c wut i did thar?) and Vanesco's points are iterated nicely by Jonny above ^, although some parts are a stretch. barring any other sort of information so early on, i would think apologetic-ness / questiony-ness is suspicious to me.
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On October 30 2013 16:45 JonnyLaw wrote:
Do we have a voting thread?
From the OP:
On October 23 2013 10:13 iamperfection wrote:
1. Voting is done in this thread. Please keep votes there, and only vote there. Do not PM me your vote.
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Vote Count
July617 (2): StorrZerg, Obzy
Vanesco (1): JonnyLaw
Not voting (10): Tehpoofter, Balla24, onlywonderboy, nyxnyxnyx, Vonthin, Vanesco, E00e, July617, OdinOfPergo, cakemanofdoom
Currently no one is set to be lynched. With 13 alive it takes 7 votes to lynch.
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better to vote, than not vote and become unable to post and be mod killed
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OdinOfPergo, E00e, July617, vonthin
formal call out on you guys. post please, i don't want to hear from any of you that the thread is moving to fast and all you could come up was "latch onto random bandwagon"
Also as for posting, idk why 40 pages is ideal, personally i'd like to see everyone at 2 pages on their own filter)
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@Jonnylaw, why are you saying it's a bandwagon? It was literally only him at the beginning, other people were uncomfortable enough to pressure cake but nothing much else. Not saying I disagree on the read though, just find it odd you're calling it a bandwagon.
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On October 30 2013 17:14 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
asians always get shafted wrt times ):
so as promised, i'll try to make some reads this time rather than just not posting. so far i'm liking either Vanesco or cakeman for a day 1 lynch. cakeman constantly questioning himself is questionable (c wut i did thar?) and Vanesco's points are iterated nicely by Jonny above ^, although some parts are a stretch. barring any other sort of information so early on, i would think apologetic-ness / questiony-ness is suspicious to me.
Which one is stronger read for you? Which parts are a stretch?
Can you find anything in his posts where there is possibly use of information bias as scum, or lack of information bias? Particularly in this post:
On October 30 2013 11:46 Vanesco wrote:
@Obzy
In my mind I play by thinking everybody is potential mafia at the start(except for me and you). Maybe defending was a wrong word to use, instead maybe redirecting would be better. If Balla and cakeman are mafia together, then it seems like cakeman is trying to redirect off of Balla by saying that there is no concrete evidence (like I have said many times before, there shouldnt be on page 1 of day 1). It just seems very scummy since the only way to get people to talk at the start of the day is to put a bit of pressure and he is trying to take it off Balla.
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On October 30 2013 15:28 Tehpoofter wrote:
@Van
I don't have anything too strong but I do like the way you have been approaching things from multiple angles as opposed to just tunnel visioning on one person or thing I feel like that is a pro town move. My other read thus far is on Balla I liked that she was calling me out for not posting for awhile when I had previously given some input that seems pro town to me posting more is always better!
Also I'd like to know what you(van) think about the July vote from store/obzy? Too soon? I'm new so the timing may be fairly typical but seems early too me I'm just starting to build up some reads here not sure I feel comfortable voting yet.
What are the multiple angles that Van is approaching? I don't see that at all. I feel that's kind of sloppy reading from you as I was actually going to bring up the fact that he was considering only 1 option as a scummy trait. He seemed to tunnel vision on a cake/me fast as cake deflecting off of me.
+ Show Spoiler [response to jonnylaw's rant] +It's bAlla... and I'm a he, not a she. -_- Every game ^_^
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@Jonny
I think if you check my posts it will be very clear that I like putting pressure on people early. I saw what seemed to be a somewhat defensiveness come from cakeman so I pressured him. And I bring nothing to the table is kind probably the most idiotic statement you make, especially since I am the first one to start pressuring cakeman. There was no bandwagon since I was the first on him. You even posted that you thought cakeman is scummy. Your view of him may have changed but remember, once YOU were the bandwagoner, not me. I'm actually not sure how I'm indecisive since I think I pressured cakeman fairly decently.
I also don't know where you get this idea that I'm apologizing. I don't know where this is coming from since I'm trying to re-read my posts and find nothing apologetic about them.
I was actually going to post about thepoofter, refreshed, and saw Balla posted about him already. I didn't like how he brought nothing to the game at that point. He made a few posts and that didn't really have any value in them and then he went away. He came back tho but even his responses of how he thought his beginning posts were pro town seem silly and a stretch since all he talked about was his time zone and length of posts.
Along with thepoofter I would like to hear more from OWB (onlywonderboy). He has only made a few posts which he mentions to lynch lurkers, that everybody should be very active (pretty ironic), and about length of posts. None of this helps out town in my opinion.
I'm not liking nyxnyxnyx kinda jumping on two possible bandwagons and not really giving any genuine new points about any players and just kinda stealing the ideas others have presented and using them for himself.
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@Balla
I am not exactly saying that I think you and cakeman are definitely scum together. I just used that as a possible example (which we discussed before). I don't know why you keep saying why I'm tunnel visioning when we already discussed this before and I agreed with your possible angle. It just seems to me like you don't like being possibly associated with a possible scum.
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I mean, just cause we discussed it doesn't mean i'm just gonna not consider it. Previously I was trying to get you to see other options... now I'm considering whether you are suspicious or not.
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Also... I was directly refuting what someone else was saying about you. Do you really think you've been approaching the game from multiple angles? I completely disagree with that.
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I could kill almost anyone in this game atm. As an aside, morning all - I'm working for the next 8ish hours so my responses may be frequent or nonexistent depending on how busy my day is. (This will be the same for all weekdays)
Jonny, I agree with some of your points about Van - why do you bring up Poofter at the end, though? It seems unrelated to the rest of your case.
Although I'd love to just continue calling out all the lurkers, at the moment;
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##Vote: nyxnyxnyx
For having only one post, coming in with a "well, I said I'd make some reads" and saying "I think that the people that are receiving attention are scummy too!" says practically nothing. I also, although I'd much rather not kill him today, think Storr's post here is interesting in that it doesn't talk about nyx at all, when nyx showed up to post literally exactly what he apparently doesn't want the non-posting (lurkers?) to do.
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I dont agree with JonnyLaw about Vanesco at all. Jonnys' accusations seem forced and I dont feel bad about Vanesco.
I agree with the scummy things about cakeman.
I wonder why Jonny said that a plan to catch scum should be formed but then did not try to form a plan.
I dont like people saying they are town as it is obvious why everyone would say that and nothing is gained from saying it in a written game.
Off topic: What is mafia daily and where do I find it?
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Well you don't have to approach the game from multiple angles. Like I have stated before, I come out of the gates with 1 possiblity and that is everyone can be scum (apart from confirmed) and based on whether they sway me or not they either grow more scummy or less scummy.
And pressuring cakeman is easier done coming from one angle and since I didn't like anything he said further I continued down that point. Why would I retreat and change my point of view when I thought my current pressure was doing decently well?
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@Vanesco... good. I'm not going to disagree with that. I just find what tehpoofter said odd is all.
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Vanesco is it not obvious that everyone besides you can be scum? The way you describe it does not seem special but normal.
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