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Vanesco
Profile Joined October 2013
United States105 Posts
October 30 2013 16:08 GMT
#201
Yes, I would hope so, but I am responding to Balla's post above and that is why I had to state that.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
October 30 2013 16:09 GMT
#202
On October 31 2013 00:56 Obzy wrote:
I could kill almost anyone in this game atm. As an aside, morning all - I'm working for the next 8ish hours so my responses may be frequent or nonexistent depending on how busy my day is. (This will be the same for all weekdays)

Jonny, I agree with some of your points about Van - why do you bring up Poofter at the end, though? It seems unrelated to the rest of your case.

Although I'd love to just continue calling out all the lurkers, at the moment;

##Unvote
##Vote: nyxnyxnyx


For having only one post, coming in with a "well, I said I'd make some reads" and saying "I think that the people that are receiving attention are scummy too!" says practically nothing. I also, although I'd much rather not kill him today, think Storr's post here is interesting in that it doesn't talk about nyx at all, when nyx showed up to post literally exactly what he apparently doesn't want the non-posting (lurkers?) to do.

I'm hoping nyx has more to say, he had trouble getting going last game so I hope if he's town he can build a better case for himself this time.

A agree with most people that cake has seemed sort of scummy. His semantic argument of "defending" Balla sort of clogged up the thread, but at least he's staying something. Really want to hear from the rest of the lurkers.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
October 30 2013 16:09 GMT
#203
EBWOP "but at least he's saying something"
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
October 30 2013 16:10 GMT
#204
@OWB what do you think about Vanesco? At this point OWB you're also a lurker. You've barely said anything about any cases. Cmon dude.
cakemanofdoom
Profile Joined September 2009
336 Posts
October 30 2013 16:12 GMT
#205
Out of the people who have posted, tehpoofter is the one looking most scummy to me.


I think it's a bit suspicious how he manages to end his real life obligations and post so soon after he was called out for inactivity, but I'll try not to speculate on his real life.

More importantly, I don't like his read on me. I know I've looked suspicious, but not addressing Balla is quite possibly the least suspicious thing I've done. It's not like there's a scummy reason for lumping one attacker with others and addressing them all together.

Even poofter seems to realize that, and backs off a bit by admitting that I might have just not noticed Balla amidst the attacks on me. What's left is a post that accuses me, with a poor new idea. I think poofter was trying to defend himself form the inactivity complaints, and he came up with some random poor evidence to try to show that he's contributing.


I'll agree that Jonny's case on Vanesco was pushing it. Van was definitely not joining a bandwagon; if anything, he started it with decent reasoning. And in all his earlier posts he seemed quite certain that I was scum, not much apologizing. Why push van so hard with a vote and leave barely anything on poofter?
cakemanofdoom
Profile Joined September 2009
336 Posts
October 30 2013 16:17 GMT
#206
Oh, and as has been said it's weird that nyx is jumping on van, but maybe that's because I don't see much value in Jonny's case, which nyx seems to think is good. I don't like his reasoning against me either since I didn't question myself beforehand.
July617
Profile Joined October 2013
United States72 Posts
October 30 2013 16:22 GMT
#207
On October 30 2013 17:14 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
asians always get shafted wrt times ):

so as promised, i'll try to make some reads this time rather than just not posting. so far i'm liking either Vanesco or cakeman for a day 1 lynch. cakeman constantly questioning himself is questionable (c wut i did thar?) and Vanesco's points are iterated nicely by Jonny above ^, although some parts are a stretch. barring any other sort of information so early on, i would think apologetic-ness / questiony-ness is suspicious to me.



If apologetic-ness/ questiony-ness is suspicious, then doesn't your post sound like a bit of an apology? "You're going to "try" and make reads (Often times mafia "try" to make reads to look like they're contributing ) , and you also agree with Jonny's points but you still question parts of it because they sound like a stretch ?
I dunno, maybe i'm reading too into it or maybe i'm not but that's my town post for now .
twitch.tv/Jjuly617
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
October 30 2013 16:25 GMT
#208
I have to agree about Jonnylaw's case. It's very contrived with very specific things. In the previous game he was much more careful with his scum read, and it was more of a feeling. Feels weird that he picks on small things here. On top of that, he claims thepoofter/vanesco is a scum pair but doesn't make a similar case on poofter...Not making the case makes it easier to not have to push poofter when vanesco inevitably flips town (looking at it as Jonnylaw trying to get a townie lynched).

However, I strongly believe it's not a strong scum play to put suspicion on someone right away for little things like that. It just makes it easier for town to narrow down on you, since you got a townie lynched for weak suspicion.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
October 30 2013 16:26 GMT
#209
On October 31 2013 01:22 July617 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2013 17:14 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
asians always get shafted wrt times ):

so as promised, i'll try to make some reads this time rather than just not posting. so far i'm liking either Vanesco or cakeman for a day 1 lynch. cakeman constantly questioning himself is questionable (c wut i did thar?) and Vanesco's points are iterated nicely by Jonny above ^, although some parts are a stretch. barring any other sort of information so early on, i would think apologetic-ness / questiony-ness is suspicious to me.



If apologetic-ness/ questiony-ness is suspicious, then doesn't your post sound like a bit of an apology? "You're going to "try" and make reads (Often times mafia "try" to make reads to look like they're contributing ) , and you also agree with Jonny's points but you still question parts of it because they sound like a stretch ?
I dunno, maybe i'm reading too into it or maybe i'm not but that's my town post for now .


not enough. give more. this is the epitomy of a lurker post. and it's exactly how you posted last game.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
October 30 2013 16:35 GMT
#210
I'm trying to get some posts in before I head to class in a half hour so going to try to make this quick and not spam the thread to hard

@Johnny
I had to read your post on Van and me several times I still can't figure out what you are accusing me of doing that is scummy. I'm only mentioned in your quote of what Van says about me not talking when I had to leave last night. What makes me scummy bro? You seem like you just threw me into the end of your post for no reason that doesn't seem very town to just tack someone's name on and demand a response seems like you're just throwing out random accusations.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
October 30 2013 16:38 GMT
#211
I also don't understand why Jonnylaw is hiding stuff about cake... yet goes all out on Vanesco...
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
October 30 2013 16:46 GMT
#212
id perfer if people not explain why they are inactive becuase of x reason irl. we all have a life outside of this game. so next time someone says rl as an exuse for not posting content or lack of posts ill just call bs now.

i still think we have a few who have yet to post. plz post.

july's post was ok, but if this is your style of play, 1 post evey 12 hours. your really gonna have to make those 4 posts count to not get lynched.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
October 30 2013 16:49 GMT
#213
On October 31 2013 00:36 Balla24 wrote:
What are the multiple angles that Van is approaching? I don't see that at all. I feel that's kind of sloppy reading from you as I was actually going to bring up the fact that he was considering only 1 option as a scummy trait. He seemed to tunnel vision on a cake/me fast as cake deflecting off of me.

+ Show Spoiler [response to jonnylaw's rant] +
It's bAlla... and I'm a he, not a she. -_- Every game ^_^



The multiple angles might not have been the best phrases I more meant she was bringing up more than just one point at a time about the same argument. Like instead of just saying that cake was scummy for his comment Van also brought up the deflection as well.

+ Show Spoiler [response to Bell...I mean balla] +
I am sorry if I called you a she I tend to switch up my pronouns without really thinking about it. Also I realize its balla now and will attempt to stick to that.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
October 30 2013 16:50 GMT
#214
cake might be town
i know he has had a lot of pressue, but he doesnt scream scum to me yet.


@obzy push something else. no reason to sheep onto july yet.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
October 30 2013 16:52 GMT
#215
ill explain more on cake latter, still need to think about him and what i want to say.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
October 30 2013 16:55 GMT
#216
Unfortunately, I'm also purposefully leaving reads off the table because a lot of the lurkers we have this game are REALLY BAD at sheeping onto other people's reads, so I want them to form their own opinions and get them to play the game before I let it all out. Particularly Nyx and July were VERY sheepy last game.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
October 30 2013 16:55 GMT
#217
On October 31 2013 01:52 StorrZerg wrote:
ill explain more on cake latter, still need to think about him and what i want to say.


I'd be very interested to hear this because as of now hes my biggest scum read
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
October 30 2013 16:55 GMT
#218
On October 31 2013 01:46 StorrZerg wrote:
id perfer if people not explain why they are inactive becuase of x reason irl. we all have a life outside of this game. so next time someone says rl as an exuse for not posting content or lack of posts ill just call bs now.

i still think we have a few who have yet to post. plz post.

july's post was ok, but if this is your style of play, 1 post evey 12 hours. your really gonna have to make those 4 posts count to not get lynched.

That seems...very aggro. I don't think there's anything wrong with giving people a heads up if you're going to be MIA. I mean I guess scum could hide behind those sort of posts, but just just putting a blanket out there that all MIA warnings are scummy seems weird to be.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
October 30 2013 16:56 GMT
#219
ebwop: "REALLY BAD at" -> "known for"
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
October 30 2013 17:05 GMT
#220
On October 31 2013 01:55 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 01:46 StorrZerg wrote:
id perfer if people not explain why they are inactive becuase of x reason irl. we all have a life outside of this game. so next time someone says rl as an exuse for not posting content or lack of posts ill just call bs now.

i still think we have a few who have yet to post. plz post.

july's post was ok, but if this is your style of play, 1 post evey 12 hours. your really gonna have to make those 4 posts count to not get lynched.

That seems...very aggro. I don't think there's anything wrong with giving people a heads up if you're going to be MIA. I mean I guess scum could hide behind those sort of posts, but just just putting a blanket out there that all MIA warnings are scummy seems weird to be.


Why is that weird...? What is that accomplishing from both a town perspective and a scum perspective? Doesn't seem weird to me at all and I think he's just fed up with that kind of thing already.
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