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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
June 27 2011 11:51 GMT
#181
On June 27 2011 17:47 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2011 17:42 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Chezinu are we going back to those code names you devised literally like 20 games ago?

You can call me Corps!

The first and second poster have been killed. That means they have a high probably of having a blue role or being red. Knowing that mafia killed one means that we have lost a special role.. . However, if by chance a town aligned or third party member killed the other player, there could be a chance that a mafia has been killed. So, Fishball how do you feel about this?

You say that like it was coordinated. What do you know we don't?
Life can only kill you once.
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
June 27 2011 11:59 GMT
#182
On June 27 2011 18:53 Radfield wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2011 19:47 Chezinu wrote:
On June 25 2011 19:42 sandroba wrote:
Can I ask you the same? You pretty much shaped up after GM called for your lynch on his first post. What's your opinion on him so far?

Leaning mafia. I think he will probably die tonight.


Hi Chez. Did you kill GM last night?

Negative.

lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
June 27 2011 12:02 GMT
#183
oops, I typed it inside the quote..

On June 27 2011 20:51 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2011 17:47 Chezinu wrote:
On June 27 2011 17:42 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Chezinu are we going back to those code names you devised literally like 20 games ago?

You can call me Corps!

The first and second poster have been killed. That means they have a high probably of having a blue role or being red. Knowing that mafia killed one means that we have lost a special role.. . However, if by chance a town aligned or third party member killed the other player, there could be a chance that a mafia has been killed. So, Fishball how do you feel about this?

You say that like it was coordinated. What do you know we don't?


I know my role and I have intuitive abilities that have been refined past experiences in mafia. As for the rest that I know, I do not feel comfortable fully answering your question.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
June 27 2011 12:37 GMT
#184
Okay first off anyone who is suggesting that there is a serial killer is automatically getting an FoS today. You're just introducing more unnecessary discussion into a chaotic setup. Have no fear, there's a plan to clear this crap up. If you have a pro-town KP role, don't fucking use it tonight. Consider tonight a day off from your ability. Unless you're some compulsive vigilante this shouldn't be a problem. Assuming there is only 1 night kill tonight we can safely say there is NO serial killer.

On to more important things: The Lynch

We know that there needs to be a majority lynch, the magic number today is 9. Here's what we should do. Build a case against, AT THE MOST, 2 players. This should be done within the first 24 hours. Have some good arguments ready because the town will pressure you by asking WHY we should lynch the person you're suspecting. Once we have a general idea of the two players we want to lynch we settle it over a vote. This guarantees that one player will be lynched.

A couple of rules when voting should be established:
1. Do not vote for yourself
2. Do not vote for someone to essentially avoid confrontation or to "save your vote."
3. Try to vote once and stick with it.

If you are protown you should abide by these rules. If you're scum you are highly encouraged to break these rules. Townies caught breaking these rules will die, and I will not feel sorry when we lose due to idiocy.

Lurking will get you killed, so don't try it.

I'll post suspects when I'm ready, it's really too early to just throw names out there.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
June 27 2011 12:40 GMT
#185
Also the magic number is 9, but we're going to strive to get the vote number up to 13. This means every mafia can try and 'vote swap' and their attempts will fail. The number is always Magic Number + Potential Mafia Total, so remember it.

Vote swapping is a great way for mafia to mess around and create confusion. This plan should eliminate that and avoids splitting the votes between more than 2 parties (essentially eliminating the chances for a no lynch).
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
June 27 2011 12:43 GMT
#186
Unless I see them step up their posting significantly, I would suggest Fishball/Caller for today. No use keeping them around to crap up the thread. Alternatively, if someone highly scummy shows up we can lynch them.
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
June 27 2011 12:44 GMT
#187
On June 27 2011 21:37 Amber[LighT] wrote:
Okay first off anyone who is suggesting that there is a serial killer is automatically getting an FoS today. You're just introducing more unnecessary discussion into a chaotic setup. Have no fear, there's a plan to clear this crap up. If you have a pro-town KP role, don't fucking use it tonight. Consider tonight a day off from your ability. Unless you're some compulsive vigilante this shouldn't be a problem. Assuming there is only 1 night kill tonight we can safely say there is NO serial killer.

On to more important things: The Lynch

We know that there needs to be a majority lynch, the magic number today is 9. Here's what we should do. Build a case against, AT THE MOST, 2 players. This should be done within the first 24 hours. Have some good arguments ready because the town will pressure you by asking WHY we should lynch the person you're suspecting. Once we have a general idea of the two players we want to lynch we settle it over a vote. This guarantees that one player will be lynched.

A couple of rules when voting should be established:
1. Do not vote for yourself
2. Do not vote for someone to essentially avoid confrontation or to "save your vote."
3. Try to vote once and stick with it.

If you are protown you should abide by these rules. If you're scum you are highly encouraged to break these rules. Townies caught breaking these rules will die, and I will not feel sorry when we lose due to idiocy.

Lurking will get you killed, so don't try it.

I'll post suspects when I'm ready, it's really too early to just throw names out there.


How will townies die if they break the rules? How will it be enforced? A vigi kill.. oh wait.. I guess rule breakers will live another day! How will lurkers get killed? Wait.. is there a day vigi? Don't Shoot!
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
June 27 2011 12:47 GMT
#188
On June 27 2011 21:44 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2011 21:37 Amber[LighT] wrote:
Okay first off anyone who is suggesting that there is a serial killer is automatically getting an FoS today. You're just introducing more unnecessary discussion into a chaotic setup. Have no fear, there's a plan to clear this crap up. If you have a pro-town KP role, don't fucking use it tonight. Consider tonight a day off from your ability. Unless you're some compulsive vigilante this shouldn't be a problem. Assuming there is only 1 night kill tonight we can safely say there is NO serial killer.

On to more important things: The Lynch

We know that there needs to be a majority lynch, the magic number today is 9. Here's what we should do. Build a case against, AT THE MOST, 2 players. This should be done within the first 24 hours. Have some good arguments ready because the town will pressure you by asking WHY we should lynch the person you're suspecting. Once we have a general idea of the two players we want to lynch we settle it over a vote. This guarantees that one player will be lynched.

A couple of rules when voting should be established:
1. Do not vote for yourself
2. Do not vote for someone to essentially avoid confrontation or to "save your vote."
3. Try to vote once and stick with it.

If you are protown you should abide by these rules. If you're scum you are highly encouraged to break these rules. Townies caught breaking these rules will die, and I will not feel sorry when we lose due to idiocy.

Lurking will get you killed, so don't try it.

I'll post suspects when I'm ready, it's really too early to just throw names out there.


How will townies die if they break the rules? How will it be enforced? A vigi kill.. oh wait.. I guess rule breakers will live another day! How will lurkers get killed? Wait.. is there a day vigi? Don't Shoot!


The town KP halt is just for tonight. Don't play dumb.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
June 27 2011 13:00 GMT
#189
##Vote Hesmyrr
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LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
June 27 2011 13:37 GMT
#190
On June 27 2011 21:40 Amber[LighT] wrote:
Also the magic number is 9, but we're going to strive to get the vote number up to 13. This means every mafia can try and 'vote swap' and their attempts will fail. The number is always Magic Number + Potential Mafia Total, so remember it.


Just saying, the momement the magic number hits, the vote ends.

This game will follow a 24 hour night/48 hour day cycle. In case I am not able to post around deadline, any votes after the majority has voted or after the deadline has passed will not count.


So how about a Big Bold FOS on anyone who hammers without a good reason

Although Gmarshal is not with us and probably is town, I think I should still answer this.

On June 27 2011 12:24 GMarshal wrote:
Anyway, this is a closed setup XXXVI was semi-open, this means that fake claims are a lot easier to pull off here. If I claim something like Funerary House Director and make up powers to go along with it, well then, how are you going to prove me wrong?

Also IIRC the only claim that was carried out in XXXVI was a fake dt claim by the mafia, to get a SK lynched, which was only counteracted by some screwiness with missing PM's for the serial killer or something like that.

Still its been a while, and I've learned a lot about playing mafia since then.

Firstly, although there was a fake dt claim, it was the counter claim by the third party that shut down the claim. Fake claims are something we're going to have to accept as necessary hazard in working in a closed setup, and actually can help the town as it spotlights attention on mafia, something they try to avoid.

In addition, the semi-openess doesn't matter. It's just like XXXVI, sure you know that there could be a DT (and we're pretty sure there is a DT in this game), but you don't know if there is 1, 2 or even none at all. The fake claim is just as easy to pull off.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
June 27 2011 13:39 GMT
#191
Night Action Interpretation

Night 0
Mafia hits GMarshal
Caller hits GGQ

This is my interpretation, but it would be useful if I just kept this up.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
June 27 2011 13:57 GMT
#192
LSB,why the heck are You discussing night hits when we don't know shit,why do You suspect Caller killing GGQ? I know there are people with motive to kill GGQ,but betting it on Caller just because is dumb. I think we should leave Night hits for now.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
June 27 2011 14:07 GMT
#193
On June 27 2011 22:57 Kurumi wrote:
LSB,why the heck are You discussing night hits when we don't know shit,why do You suspect Caller killing GGQ? I know there are people with motive to kill GGQ,but betting it on Caller just because is dumb. I think we should leave Night hits for now.

Well considering no one has counterclaimed Caller right now I'm inclined to believe him. + Show Spoiler +
On June 27 2011 13:16 Caller wrote:
oh wow ggq, sorry bro, if i had known that sodomy left your anus open enough to make you "annihlated" i woulda not brought that horse in.
also ace you gave me a buggy role where is my shot and my save


How about you? What do you think about Caller's claim? Is he fooling around? Or is he serious?
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
June 27 2011 14:15 GMT
#194
He claimed three roles at once,so he is vanilla or veteran,is that so hard?
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
June 27 2011 14:17 GMT
#195
On June 27 2011 22:37 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2011 21:40 Amber[LighT] wrote:
Also the magic number is 9, but we're going to strive to get the vote number up to 13. This means every mafia can try and 'vote swap' and their attempts will fail. The number is always Magic Number + Potential Mafia Total, so remember it.


Just saying, the momement the magic number hits, the vote ends.

Show nested quote +
This game will follow a 24 hour night/48 hour day cycle. In case I am not able to post around deadline, any votes after the majority has voted or after the deadline has passed will not count.


So how about a Big Bold FOS on anyone who hammers without a good reason

Although Gmarshal is not with us and probably is town, I think I should still answer this.

Show nested quote +
On June 27 2011 12:24 GMarshal wrote:
Anyway, this is a closed setup XXXVI was semi-open, this means that fake claims are a lot easier to pull off here. If I claim something like Funerary House Director and make up powers to go along with it, well then, how are you going to prove me wrong?

Also IIRC the only claim that was carried out in XXXVI was a fake dt claim by the mafia, to get a SK lynched, which was only counteracted by some screwiness with missing PM's for the serial killer or something like that.

Still its been a while, and I've learned a lot about playing mafia since then.

Firstly, although there was a fake dt claim, it was the counter claim by the third party that shut down the claim. Fake claims are something we're going to have to accept as necessary hazard in working in a closed setup, and actually can help the town as it spotlights attention on mafia, something they try to avoid.

In addition, the semi-openess doesn't matter. It's just like XXXVI, sure you know that there could be a DT (and we're pretty sure there is a DT in this game), but you don't know if there is 1, 2 or even none at all. The fake claim is just as easy to pull off.



Hrmm I ignored that detail when I made that post up. I was going to throw it up during Night 0 but Fishball was right, there was no reason to discuss anything during the Night 0 phase.

This is why votes should not be placed immediately. It's going to be tough to keep mafia away from bandwagoning if we have suspects who aren't strong cases with 6-7 votes.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
June 27 2011 14:23 GMT
#196
On June 27 2011 18:26 deconduo wrote:
Fishball and Caller have been totally useless, and I'm waiting to see if LSB has anything to say. These are the people that should be up for lynching today. In a no reveal setup, anyone thats just fucking around without giving of any reads needs to die.


Such a hypocrite, and daft to boot.
Although after what you displayed in PYP3, I expected nothing less from you.
Or do you have a different agenda? Oh well, time will tell.

On June 27 2011 20:48 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Well yes, I know he said that. But sometimes mafia have other ways of killing, like a poisoner or something. I remember in merc mafia I was mafia with 1 KP and I had two explosive vests I could give out and detonate. I believe in DrH's ExMiMa mafia had some other sort of KP role, I think it involved giving out fake medicine pills that killed people.

The catch with those is that they temporarily raise mafia KP while not being a permanent asset to the mafia.


It is not likely this game will have that sort of setup. That would be way overboard. I'm more intrigued that you would even think that way.
靈魂交響曲
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
June 27 2011 14:28 GMT
#197
Thirteen is my lucky number.
Sup Fishball,who's King today?
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
June 27 2011 14:30 GMT
#198
On June 27 2011 21:43 deconduo wrote:
Unless I see them step up their posting significantly, I would suggest Fishball/Caller for today. No use keeping them around to crap up the thread.


On June 27 2011 23:23 Fishball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2011 18:26 deconduo wrote:
Fishball and Caller have been totally useless, and I'm waiting to see if LSB has anything to say. These are the people that should be up for lynching today. In a no reveal setup, anyone thats just fucking around without giving of any reads needs to die.


Such a hypocrite, and daft to boot.
Although after what you displayed in PYP3, I expected nothing less from you.
Or do you have a different agenda? Oh well, time will tell.


-Super defensive
-Resorting to (bad) personal attacks
-Still hasn't contributed.

Has Fishball stepped up his posting? Nope.

##Vote Fishball
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
June 27 2011 14:35 GMT
#199
On June 27 2011 23:30 deconduo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2011 21:43 deconduo wrote:
Unless I see them step up their posting significantly, I would suggest Fishball/Caller for today. No use keeping them around to crap up the thread.


Show nested quote +
On June 27 2011 23:23 Fishball wrote:
On June 27 2011 18:26 deconduo wrote:
Fishball and Caller have been totally useless, and I'm waiting to see if LSB has anything to say. These are the people that should be up for lynching today. In a no reveal setup, anyone thats just fucking around without giving of any reads needs to die.


Such a hypocrite, and daft to boot.
Although after what you displayed in PYP3, I expected nothing less from you.
Or do you have a different agenda? Oh well, time will tell.


-Super defensive
-Resorting to (bad) personal attacks
-Still hasn't contributed.

Has Fishball stepped up his posting? Nope.

##Vote Fishball

Last guy who picked up on Fishball's posting like that got his ass annihilated..
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
June 27 2011 14:43 GMT
#200
I dont understand why nobody believes that I annihilated GGQ's ass

do you doubt the size of my penis?
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
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